Just an idea.

[blablablu]

hello. 

I am new here, but being a long time around the reading posts.   and some year in amateur gambling. 

After not sleeping one nigh I got the idea that I am working on and I would like to share it with you, cos' I believe that it has some potential. 

If we work together we might get somewhere. 

IDEA:

2 dozen system + pluscoup progression
+ flat bet on zero on every win (1/8 on dozen unit)

I am doing testing in some variations, but your ideas would help a lot, as do discussions and testings in here usually do. 

Than you,
sincerely yours blablablu

[blablablu]

The thing goes this way. 

1.   betting on 2 dozens covers 64.  86 % of the numbers

2.   With Pluscoup progression we take the rest of 35.  24%

3.   Flatt betting on ZERO on every win we are cutting the house edge.   If zero wins we get 4 times of bet unites in the round, so in the long run we could decrease the effect of lost rounds and make the dealer a bit nervous. 

I apologize for my English, it is not my mother language but i hope you get me in here.

[chrisbis]

Hello blablablu.
Warm Welcome to you here at RouletteForum.cc

I like the idea, sounds right up my street so2speak!!

Can you explain further please?

I/E. which dozens are you going to bet on and Y?
what amount to place on the two dozens to start?
Y wait till you win before you bet on The Green Goblin? (Zero to everyone else)
Did you mean one in eight, or one eigth as a fraction?

Would you be willing to show your idea on a felt drawing?
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Ur english is fine.

Might be a good system if u have waited till there are no zero's showing on the casino's marque, or longer still.

Im a Zero betting fan.

[blablablu]

1.  How much unit you bet in a round and bankroll is up to each person itself

2.  You bet against last wining dozen that it would not repeat, if you lose you do the same.  You don't make normal progression to refund the loses , you do the pluscoup or version of it (still thinking about the versions).  each dozen has the same amount of the unit on it.

I think there is some system with dozens in this forum, look it up.  Nice ideas also for progression also.

3.  Zero occurs every once in a while, so why not hitting the casino on their territory.  When you win you can afford a bit to bet on zero and cutting the house edge.

[reincarnation]

Sorry mate, can you please specify with an example so that we follow?

For eg: How much you bet on what dozens and on remaining numbers, etc.,

[blablablu]

1.       Bet either on dozens or columns, the principle is the same, I will explain for dozens.     

2.       You bet against last dozen

Number:

5 - now you bet on 2nd and 3rd dozen
17 - now you bet on 1st and 3rd dozen
30 - now you bet on 1st and 2nd dozen

3.       Incorporate pluscoup progression or some variation of it.     
 Details of the progression:   rouletteforum. cc/money-management/pluscoup-progression/?PHPSESSID=b13a29d2f2b924e61d03298c5487c5cd

It is suitable to use this type of the progression because it handles the losses, but because wins and loses are changing fast, we can control bank and still make profit in short period

4.       when you win a spin bet on zero with 1/8 of the units that you are betting on dozens(columns)

[blablablu]

I unit on each dozen is the starting bet, size of the unit is what you choose, it can be 5-50000$.

[reincarnation]

Thanks, yes I got that, but what do mean exactly by:

2.   With Pluscoup progression we take the rest of 35.  24%

[chrisbis]

I unit on each dozen is the starting bet, size of the unit is what you choose, it can be 5-50000$.

Make it sensible mate!!

Think about table limits, and the range/scope of the proposed progression.

U may run out of betting options.

[blablablu]

This is for the reincarnation:


If you bet on 2 dozens then you have to take care for the rest of the tablewhere you lose, wher you aren't covered.   You do that with money management.   In this case with pluscoup progression.   That is it.   The purpose of the game is to have profit, for that you have to cover  loses in you favor. 

[blablablu]

Make it sensible mate!!

Think about table limits, and the range/scope of the proposed progression.

U may run out of betting options.

There is not much range/scope progression because on dozens and columns wins and loses are changing pretty fast, and to get a strike on 6-7 spins of the same dozens is very, very unlikely.

Some casinos have limits, some don't.  Size of the unit depends on the rules of the casino and on each person for himself. 

I made some simulations and preferable bankroll would be at least 100 units just in case you strike 6-7 spins of the same dozen while in progression, but it never happened on simulations (Roulette extreme).   I would suggest modifying play if you lose 4 spins in a row and then go double progression if you have some some nerve(that is why i suggest bigger bankroll) or you could stop and reset to 1 unit a dozen and start building over again.


Some ideas from you guys to improve the system would be great.

[reincarnation]

There is not much range/scope progression because on dozens and columns wins and loses are changing pretty fast, and to get a strike on 6-7 spins of the same dozens is very, very unlikely.

Just yesterday, Dozen 2 and 3 did not appear for around 13-14 consecutive spins on a live wheel...

[blablablu]

if that happens you come to very short bank or lose it and then you are done for that day, but mostly you can make it up next time.  I said i need some fresh ideas to make the system better :)

I think on the long run that you can make good chance with it and some profit too.

Not a single system is 100% if you don't know when to stop if you are winning.

I am trying out some progression variations and some single bet options to combine, but it is late at my place and need to sleep it over till morning coffee and cigarette(my part of the day for thinking).  Coming back tomorrow.

As i said it needs to be worked on, it was flash idea in my head.   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

If you stuck after equal bank bet(look at the progression topic i posteda) with 13 sessions in a row you lost 13 units, if you stuck with 5th level of progression you are lost 65 units, so as i said with 100 units bank you can fight it for some time.  But 13 sessions in a row - 20 times a year on the whole planet all together.   

Good night lads.

[reincarnation]

If you stuck after equal bank bet(look at the progression topic I posteda) with 13 sessions in a row you lost 13 units, if you stuck with 5th level of progression you are lost 65 units, so as I said with 100 units bank you can fight it for some time.  But 13 sessions in a row - 20 times a year on the whole planet all together.   
Good night lads.

If you lose 13 spins in a row with bet size 1 unit, it means you lose 26 units, as you are betting 2 units per spin.

And you really think 13 sessions in a row comes just 20 times a year all over? Think again mate...I was just testing your method now..and guess what... I got another 10 spin row now...so 18 more to go

Nevertheless, hope to hear again from you tomorrow with some fresh ideas on progression...

Cheers!

[blablablu]

10 spins isnt 13 spins.   

check it on live roulette n umbers, not some software, it is very rare to get that many spins in same dozen or column, yes there are records of that happening, but every day happening to one person.  Not likely.  till tomorow.