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How to nullify the negative edge (for free)

Started by outsider, Jan 25, 07:27 PM 2021

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outsider

Quote from: Drazen on Jan 28, 01:24 PM 2021
How do you define "event" in the sequence of roulette outcomes?

How is it different than the spin? If so?

well, if we play a total of 2 units on 2 dozens (at the same time! For those who have not understood) we have played a single spin.
If we play in the alternative way... like 1 unit on red... and if we lose, 1 unit on a dozen, we played 2 spins and those 2 spins are just a single event.

event = multiple spins needed to reach the same goal as if we play in the normal way.

I hope i was clear! My english is very rusty at the moment.

Drazen

Quote from: ego on Jan 28, 01:48 PM 2021
Drazen - way back in time - you mention trading Tennis - are you still active?

Hi ego

Not at the moment.

ego


Drazen if you don't have acces to Betfair Exchange you can use a Befair Clone and open up account with Matchbook Exhance for a fee.

Cheers
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Drazen

Quote from: outsider on Jan 27, 11:36 AM 2021
But i dind't because maybe it would become a bit complicated to follow all the mechanisms at the beginning.
I'm sure that it's already a lot to comprehend.

Can you please continue as far as you can?

outsider

Quote from: Drazen on Jan 29, 01:01 PM 2021
Can you please continue as far as you can?

unfortunately today i don't have much time.
I will just say that it's possible to go deeeeep.... for example, you can divide the dozen in 2 bets!
3 triplets+ 1 carrè = dozen but with a greater % of success!
So instead of bet 2 units to make 1, with 2 dozen in 1 spins, you can do this (the units needs to be splitted so they need to be more but the proportion remain risk 2 to make 1)

First alternative way: 1 EC, if we lose we bet on 1 dozen
Second alternative way: 1 dozen, if we lose we bet on 3 triplets, if we lose again we bet on 1 dozen.
Third and "best" way: 9 triplets, if we lose we bet on 1 carrè, if we lose again we bet on 3 triplets again... if we lose again we bet on 3 triplets again and if we lose again, the last bet will be on 1 carrè.

the units most be divided in order to always have the unit earned

Maybe it's a mess how i have explained it, but i'm in a hurry so, sorry!

Tomorrow MAYBE i will tell the best way to crush to about zero the edge!

Drazen

Thanks very much, outsider!

Interesting indeed.

Please take your time, but am sure a few lines of practical examples might spark more interest.


Cheers


quos

Third and "best" way: 9 triplets, if we lose we bet on 1 carrè, if we lose again we bet on 3 triplets again... if we lose again we bet on 3 triplets again and if we lose again, the last bet will be on 1 carrè.

Hi outsider!!!
9 triplets in one Spin?
Perhaps you want yo say 3 triplets in one Spin or 3 triplets during 3 spins.....

Thanks so much!!!!

outsider

Quote from: quos on Jan 30, 09:39 AM 2021
Third and "best" way: 9 triplets, if we lose we bet on 1 carrè, if we lose again we bet on 3 triplets again... if we lose again we bet on 3 triplets again and if we lose again, the last bet will be on 1 carrè.

Hi outsider!!!
9 triplets in one Spin?
Perhaps you want yo say 3 triplets in one Spin or 3 triplets during 3 spins.....

Thanks so much!!!!
oh thank you for let me know about this mistake... yeah it's 3 triplets in 1 spin (i was thinking about 9 numbers so i made a mix of the 2 things)

quos

Tomorrow MAYBE i will tell the best way to crush to about zero the edge!

Hi outsider!!!
Please, continue when you can!!

Thanks again!!!

outsider

Ok... it's time to reveal the big thing! This could change the way you play and see things.
Honestly i wasn't sure about sharing this but... i will do it! This should be such a simple basic knowledge to who wants to live with the roulette... and yet just a few people knows it.

(I will use my terms because i don't like the american ones)

The best way to play a simple chance (18 numbers) is...................... to play a plein (1 number) until you win the first time... for a maximum of 25 spins! Why? Because you have the probability of 49.60% ! I repeat the """""49.60%"""""!!!! instead of the canon 48.65%.

Ok, first of all, i will explain how you can see this by yourself.

a plein has a chance of 2.70%   1/37 = 0,02702....

Let's take the plein number "3"... what's the probability that this number doesn't show up for 25 spins? it's the same probability as the other 36 numbers will come up 25 times in a row!
So, all the numbers, except the "3" have  the probability of (36/37= 0,9729...) 97.3%
What's the probability that those 36 numbers come up 25 times in a row?     0.9729^25= 0.504 (50.4%)

This means that our  plein "3" has the probability of 1 - 0.504 = 0.496 (49.6%) to come up at least 1 time in 25 spins.

Now that you know this... how we manage to play a plein  as if it were a simple chance? With a correct and calibrated progression, of course!

But before i show you the progression... i want do a little modification.

We wont play with the 49.6% but with the 51%  (50.95%) IN OUR FAVOUR! How? We extend the spins! instead of 25, we play for a maximum of 26 spins. (you can see why is 51% by doing the calculation by yourself now that you know how to do it).
I did this modification because i find pretty useless to play with a negative mathematical hope.



So, the progression can be a little bit tricky because of the difficulty to split the units so i made the best compromise possible in order to make it playable.

here are the units that you need to bet for each spin, until you win once. (the first time that you win... you have automatically reached the target and you stop playing that game)

spins   units
1      1
2      1,1
3      1,1
4      1,1
5      1,2
6      1,2
7      1,2
8      1,3
9      1,3
10      1,3
11      1,4
12      1,4
13      1,5
14      1,5
15      1,5
16      1,6
17      1,6
18      1,7
19      1,7
20      1,8
21      1,8
22      1,9
23      1,9
24      2
25      2
26      2,1

Total units that we can use: 39.2, each event/game (max 26 spins)
total units that we can won each event/game : 36.2 (in average).

Let's put it in this way... each 100 games, we win 36.2 units, the 51% of the time
and we lose 39.2 units the 49% of the time.
So at the end of the day 36.27*51=1850 units earned
and 39.2*49=1920 units lost

the total is 1850-1920 =.......ONLY and i repeat O-N-L-Y    -70 units each 100 games (100 games could mean about 2000 spins).



Now, to show how great this thing is... i want to tell you how much i would lose, if i would play in a classic way!

I could have played 19 numbers with probability of 51.35%   against 18 numbers (48.65%) for 100 games (in this case 100 games are 100 spins).

for each spin i would have betted 39.2 units on the 19 numbers (about 2 units each number) and my gain could have been 35.07 units.

So 39.2*48.65= 1907
35.07*51.35 = 1800
So each 100 spins you would LOSE about 106ish units.


It's time for a fnal paragon and the fake experts will not gonna like it at all!

alternative way:                                                                                           normal way:
you only lose 71 units each 100 games/about 2000 spins.                 you lose 106 units each 100 spins, so 2140 units each 2000 spins.

AW      NW
-71 vs -2140

How does it feel now? The tiny little difference has turned in a MASSIVE, HUGE difference!!!

We have crushed/destroyed the edge.

now, if you wanna play it... you need to face some problems like the splitted units in order to do the correct bets and you should use a money management strategy that forces a little bit the game in your favour, (not too much though).


Before someone asks: is it possibile to earn with this?
I mean, if you do all the things that i just said above, you could make some units, the only sure thing is: you (almost) wont pay the edge, so the main goal is not to earn something with this.
Like i said at the very beginning, this is a gimmick... something that alone, it's not enough to beat the roulette, otherwise i wouldn't have shared it for free. Still, i'm sure that is the best system ever made public.

My main goal in this thread was to show how the average users (or players) in the roulette forums (or tables) doesn't know a shit about their preferite hobby (obsession/reason to live) but they (try to) criticize who wants to give them something more.
The only way to beat the roulette, is with the math, and if you don't know well those 2 things... you are screwed!

With that being said, i have prooved what i claimed at the beginning and now i can quit my teacher clothes, to go back to the true reason why i am here.... which is: to sell!






outsider

Quote from: quos on Jan 30, 01:29 PM 2021
Tomorrow MAYBE i will tell the best way to crush to about zero the edge!

Hi outsider!!!
Please, continue when you can!!

Thanks again!!!

Finally done! I don't know exactly but... it took me some hours. So, enjoy it :)

Clf7

Quote from: outsider on Jan 30, 08:38 PM 2021
to go back to the true reason why i am here.... which is: to sell!

To sell what?

outsider

there is another thread close to this one.

RayManZ

Quote from: outsider on Jan 30, 08:38 PM 2021
Ok... it's time to reveal the big thing! This could change the way you play and see things.
Honestly i wasn't sure about sharing this but... i will do it! This should be such a simple basic knowledge to who wants to live with the roulette... and yet just a few people knows it.

(I will use my terms because i don't like the american ones)

The best way to play a simple chance (18 numbers) is...................... to play a plein (1 number) until you win the first time... for a maximum of 25 spins! Why? Because you have the probability of 49.60% ! I repeat the """""49.60%"""""!!!! instead of the canon 48.65%.

Ok, first of all, i will explain how you can see this by yourself.

a plein has a chance of 2.70%   1/37 = 0,02702....

Let's take the plein number "3"... what's the probability that this number doesn't show up for 25 spins? it's the same probability as the other 36 numbers will come up 25 times in a row!
So, all the numbers, except the "3" have  the probability of (36/37= 0,9729...) 97.3%
What's the probability that those 36 numbers come up 25 times in a row?     0.9729^25= 0.504 (50.4%)

This means that our  plein "3" has the probability of 1 - 0.504 = 0.496 (49.6%) to come up at least 1 time in 25 spins.

Now that you know this... how we manage to play a plein  as if it were a simple chance? With a correct and calibrated progression, of course!

But before i show you the progression... i want do a little modification.

We wont play with the 49.6% but with the 51%  (50.95%) IN OUR FAVOUR! How? We extend the spins! instead of 25, we play for a maximum of 26 spins. (you can see why is 51% by doing the calculation by yourself now that you know how to do it).
I did this modification because i find pretty useless to play with a negative mathematical hope.



So, the progression can be a little bit tricky because of the difficulty to split the units so i made the best compromise possible in order to make it playable.

here are the units that you need to bet for each spin, until you win once. (the first time that you win... you have automatically reached the target and you stop playing that game)

spins   units
1      1
2      1,1
3      1,1
4      1,1
5      1,2
6      1,2
7      1,2
8      1,3
9      1,3
10      1,3
11      1,4
12      1,4
13      1,5
14      1,5
15      1,5
16      1,6
17      1,6
18      1,7
19      1,7
20      1,8
21      1,8
22      1,9
23      1,9
24      2
25      2
26      2,1

Total units that we can use: 39.2, each event/game (max 26 spins)
total units that we can won each event/game : 36.2 (in average).

Let's put it in this way... each 100 games, we win 36.2 units, the 51% of the time
and we lose 39.2 units the 49% of the time.
So at the end of the day 36.27*51=1850 units earned
and 39.2*49=1920 units lost

the total is 1850-1920 =.......ONLY and i repeat O-N-L-Y    -70 units each 100 games (100 games could mean about 2000 spins).



Now, to show how great this thing is... i want to tell you how much i would lose, if i would play in a classic way!

I could have played 19 numbers with probability of 51.35%   against 18 numbers (48.65%) for 100 games (in this case 100 games are 100 spins).

for each spin i would have betted 39.2 units on the 19 numbers (about 2 units each number) and my gain could have been 35.07 units.

So 39.2*48.65= 1907
35.07*51.35 = 1800
So each 100 spins you would LOSE about 106ish units.


It's time for a fnal paragon and the fake experts will not gonna like it at all!

alternative way:                                                                                           normal way:
you only lose 71 units each 100 games/about 2000 spins.                 you lose 106 units each 100 spins, so 2140 units each 2000 spins.

AW      NW
-71 vs -2140

How does it feel now? The tiny little difference has turned in a MASSIVE, HUGE difference!!!

We have crushed/destroyed the edge.

now, if you wanna play it... you need to face some problems like the splitted units in order to do the correct bets and you should use a money management strategy that forces a little bit the game in your favour, (not too much though).


Before someone asks: is it possibile to earn with this?
I mean, if you do all the things that i just said above, you could make some units, the only sure thing is: you (almost) wont pay the edge, so the main goal is not to earn something with this.
Like i said at the very beginning, this is a gimmick... something that alone, it's not enough to beat the roulette, otherwise i wouldn't have shared it for free. Still, i'm sure that is the best system ever made public.

My main goal in this thread was to show how the average users (or players) in the roulette forums (or tables) doesn't know a shit about their preferite hobby (obsession/reason to live) but they (try to) criticize who wants to give them something more.
The only way to beat the roulette, is with the math, and if you don't know well those 2 things... you are screwed!

With that being said, i have prooved what i claimed at the beginning and now i can quit my teacher clothes, to go back to the true reason why i am here.... which is: to sell!

So now you only need to find an event that happens every 26 spins while betting max 19 numbers for 26 spins or less.

outsider

Quote from: RayManZ on Jan 31, 04:44 AM 2021
So now you only need to find an event that happens every 26 spins while betting max 19 numbers for 26 spins or less.

yeah... at this point even a little selection* it's enough to overcome the wheel


*the selection must really works... and the 99.999...% of those are trash!

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