OUTSIDER, SCAMMER !!! I CAN PROVE WHY I PAY 1000 EUROS !!!

[game over]

Hello.

A week ago I decided to pay this outsider, 1000 euros.
I sent him 300 euros in advance and 700 euros as a purchase of a product through paypal, because I was already expecting what was going to happen.
I trusted this person and it seemed that he had very good mathematical knowledge and I do not question it.
I spent 4 days, little by little sending me the files and explanations so that I could confirm the payment and that already showed me what was happening.
I waited for him to explain everything to me and once I understood everything, I put it into practice, I even created a fast software to make long-term checks, because according to him, it is a slow system due to the large amount of waiting to make a bet.
I can openly share with all of you what he does and you can see for yourself that he is a scammer.
This man believed that I was stupid and that I had no knowledge of roulette and that I did not have computer knowledge either.
I played a lot of fool to understand perfectly everything step by step so that there were no mistakes, but from the first minute I understood everything.
He is waiting for an extreme situation on what he calls sigma, which is a calculation of probability and deviation, for as long as he has the extreme values, to be able to attack with good security to win.
But for those of us who are already people with a certain level about the game, we know that this is nonsense and that the casinos are manipulated (online casinos) and can make those limits higher or lower whenever they want, because there is no chance that is worth it. in roulette.
This person sent me an excel that he gives away to manage money, which I have to admit is not bad at all, but he sent me another file on what he calls "sigma" to find these types of extreme situations to place our bets .
To make an example, wait for 38 balls with 18 numbers without coming out ...
We all know that these situations are extreme, it is not necessary to pay 1000 euros or know anything about sigma.
The idea is to play this extreme situation until you win or until the sigma drops to the usual average of 3, using the progression indicated by the excel.
Well, I was doing tests and apart from the fact that you have to lose many hours to make an entry, it can happen that those numbers come out very few times in the next 30-40 balls and it destroys your bankroll.
You can get to be 3 sigma and have lost 300-400 chips, that if they are of the value that he says to play, you sink!
After all this, this man did not insist on the confirmation of the money, but he did ask me to confirm the payment.
This boy is an intelligent person who knows how to trick little by little so that you fall into his trap.
I know that there are 3 more people who paid (or more) and one of them already confirmed that it happened the same as me, they cheated!
The nichedelic gentleman, confirmed that what this man said was true and what a coincidence that they are both Italian.
I don't want to think badly, but he gives me the feeling that:
- They are friends and have done this scam together.
- The nichedelic lord registered with another name and made a deception in a cunning way.
...
What I want to know is .... where are the other people who paid and haven't said anything
Are those people real people or are they people made up by this scammer to make sure they get paid?
where is the nichedelico man? suddenly disappeared? what a coincidence!!
At least I know that one person has paid and feels cheated like me, but what about other people !!!

With this message I want to tell you to be careful who you trust !!
I bought this for the mathematics that could be behind for if they served me to acquire more knowledge to implement my ways of playing.
I, already explained and said that I had ways to win, one is an algorithm to beat the RNG and PRNG software roulette.
The other way only works in a real casino in person and online.
But at no time have I deceived anyone and once I proposed something and nobody paid attention to me and never insisted again.

But this person has nothing to gain, his math is for a beginner and he can't win the game with his "math", he can only win by taking money from other players, stealing his money, it's a shame !!
I'm sure this person has already done this several times with other names, I'm sure !!!
Be very careful gentlemen !!

By the way, this person in this forum is called OUTSIDER and in real life his name is LORENZO LIZZI.
I am communicating it so that if at any time you make a payment by payapal to someone with that name, please be careful, IT IS A SCAM !!!

With this I want to tell you that we have already finished with another scammer more than the thousands that are on the internet, DO NOT TRUST ANYONE !!!

If someone wants to sell you a strategy, ask for some kind of demonstration or always pay after receiving the way to play if they are satisfied.


HECTOR

PS: YOUR PARTY IS OVER SMART SCAMMER !!!

[game over]

If someone wants to know how what this scammer sells works, contact me and I will deliver it to them for free !!!
But it is not worth wasting time, I assure you!

[outsider]

OOOOHHHH thank you!!! i was waiting for you hahahahahahahahahahha how fun it will be but now i will go for dinner, after that, we will have a huge party here

[outsider]

but before i go, just know that you done the worst possible thing here, because this will just result in marketing for me.

[Mister Eko]

Rather buy my baccarat 3 strategy for 300 bucks, what I have introduced in my baccarat thread recently. No scam, no cheat, was created only for online tables. 0-24 contact, if you record to lose your bankroll, I send back you the money.

I am sorry you get scammed.

[thereddiamanthe]

dox him & box him
& squeeze it tight & shut
jaam

[nichedelico]

I want to say something, i totally forgot to say the old graph i shared was a mistake with calculation, why i forgot? Because i bought the system and i was totally focused on that. Lorenzo spoke with me EVERYDAY, helped me with all my questions and for the understanding. I mean, 1000 euro you think you will have a system on a silver plate in your hand? That you can just share with all, or maybe you have to WORK for that. You have to judge if the math behind this works and Lorenzo shared his ideas in this forum. I'm working on it since i have it, and tested long terms a lot of ways, simply this is not easy, but you can call scammer someone that is there helping you EVERYDAY with EVERY question?

[outsider]

So let's begin! i Just want to warn everyone that this guy has just committed a public suicide! Because now i will enjoy so much to turn him like a sock!

(Oh before you start reading, make sure you go to the bathroom, because you will laugh so hard!)

First of all i want to give some data: i wasted about 20 hours in the last week, trying to explain him all, for a total of 100, and i repeat 100(!!!!!!) emails that he sent me, no joking at all.
I have done my best until i realized that his intention was just to start making excuses "i don't understand".... "explain to me step by step", i give you 1000 spins and you send me a video of how you play them... even though i explained all in a clear way.
In the end when i gave to him a fucking example of how to play, that took me some hours... he said:  ok, now help me to program it because i don't know how to do it!
I said that it was not part of our deal, (in fact I WANT TO INVITE TO CAREFULLY READ MY TERMS IN MY THREAD!!!!!), so after JUST A FEW HOURS he sent me some files saying that he tested the method... so all of the sudden he was able to program and test all... ok!
Considering that the money management strategy that i suggest is something close to a flat bet and i suggest to risk about 1% of the capital per initial bet.... how is possible that he lost 300 euros in 50 spins or something like that? Hahahahahaha, i want to repeat... i swear this guy is so comic. It's so easy to crush him that i really i almost feel bad.

Why? Because i think that he is very, very young. He has a child attitude. That's why i returned to him 700 euro... because i asked to him "how old are you?" and he never answered... he told to me that he was asking part of the money to the mum... and others, so with the dubt that this guy was just a kid, i returned to him the money. But why i kept the 300 euro? For three reasons, he wasted 20 hours of my life, he has the method, and 300 euro was sent as a friend, and since he called me 80000 fucking times "friend" i have all the right.

But now ler's get into the juicy stuff:
I warned him so many times that i was doing all things right. In fact the method is based on concepts that cannot be argued in any way, so all you can do (refering to any possible retarded that doesn't know how things really works and could try to argue in any way) is just to shut up, and accept/understand that this playstyle is valid, because is prooved that the standard deviation in the scentifique field. NEEDS to do determinate thing!!! Plus i didn't promise in my thread that i was giving an "HG" (what a foolish low tier word)... but providing a bet selection (which gives an advantage (in facts it gives the advantage to know that a crucial parameter will go in a certain way, no matter what!) + a money management strategy, which i also provided, that were my terms... that i fully respected, so: my method is valid? Of course yes. Whatever proof he says he has, is fake? yes! Is made up for sure... the only way to argue with me, is to give me proofs that you tested the method for an ACCEPTABLE number of games, on a HARDware random generator!!! Which can be a roulette.

Basically his target was just to recover the 300 euro... because i understood that he was just trying everything to have the method completly for free.
He even blackmailed me, something like, "send me back 300 euro or i will say that you are a scammer" hahahaha with some made up proofs.
Come to me or a judge in the court with this kind of proofs (give me proofs that you tested the method in a PROPER WAY, for an ACCEPTABLE number of games, on a HARDware random generator!!! Which can be a roulette). Thn you can accuse me of being a scammer... but hold on, you will never be able to do it because the method will really works on these conditions!

So, with that being said, i want to tell one last thing, fortunately the method which i give to him, as i have hinted in my old thread, is modified in a way that it's still usable, but it's not optimized... because has i warned 2 months ago, i can't risk that some stupid guy can share something like that, just because he is a child. So i wait until the end, until i can fully trust of someone... So be careful everyone, specially if he tries to ask money to recover the 300 hahahahahahaha.
Whatever thing he will share, just know that can be manipulated by him!

Now Hector, your time has come! You wanted it, boy!
I warned you that my intention was to spare you... but you left me no choice, so now you will face the amount of bullshits that you said in your fucking 100 emails!

Disclaimer: I SWEAR THAT ALL I WILL SAY RIGHT NOW, IT'S THE TRUTH!!!!! I can easly show you if you have doubts!

So, let's begin, the following are all statements done by my dear friend Hector a.k.a GAME OVER.

"...I already told you that math is very nice, but in the casino there is
manipulation and they can screw you whenever you want and if you are really
a serious roulette player you should know it.
That's why I told you that in your country maybe it works, but not in any
country."

So basically you even admit that the method is not the problem... the casinòs are!!!!!!!! So in your mind, i'm a scammer because there is manipulation in the Spanish casinò hahahahah ok friend!

And now i'm speaking to the public, thi is an EPIC LIST... i swear this is all real. no joking... he really said everything below, in those fuckin 100 mails that of course i have stored.

(this is a part of a message that i sent to him, to make a summary of the bullshits.

*Soooo.... here we are!
I want to do a summary of all your statements done in the last seven days:
1) Your uncle or someone that i don't remember works in the crimes section of the police or whatever.
2) Your father is one of the best judges in your city!
3) You have friends in law.
4) You have been in this field for 15 years.
5) You have a group of experts that value methods hahahaha sorry i can't stop laughing.
6) You asked the money to buy this thing... to your mum...
7) The owner of the paypal account is your cousin!

So 15 years in this field but you don't have paypal and you ask money to your mum...

These are all statements made by you!!!
I asked 2 or 3 times how old are you and you never answered me, so at this point i suspect that you are very young... so i want to forgive the fact that you thought that would be possible to fool me, kid!!!
Since at this point i think that you are a kid or an adult with a brain of a kid... i can't take your money for a gambling matter. So i will return the money (700, because i lost too many hours with you) to you (sorry... to your cousin!) because i'm sure that you realized that to apply the method, is required patience and application that a young like you can't have so you are finding each possible excuses.
All i see, is that you are desperate, so you will have the money back, not because you right, but because i want to spare you.
Now you will probably think, Yeah! I have been smart and i got the method for free (but i'm thinking: thank god i still didn't told him the most important things of the method, as a precaution like i always do. keeping them only when i can fully trust someone   )
When you will grow up, maybe you will understand how you have been destroyed and countered in each possible single way, on the whole line.
This lesson will be useful for you. And you had it for free hahahaha you have received so much for free, kid!  What a luck! 

Ok... i will add in a separate message, the final email that i sent, because is an absolute masterpiece and it deserves all the possible visibility.

Now one last thing, i want to address the fact that he tried to contact other people who bought the method trying to convince them that this thing doesn't work... well, the method is not the easiest one to understand and i'm helping more people at the same time, to teach them all. In the meanwhile someone else his doing by himself without contacting me asking assitence, even if i told them to text me, so i can help them.
If they find problems it's because they are not understanding all in the correct way and i can't help them if they don't speak to me.
Oh, and about all the fake accounts shit that YOU have said Hector, I'm sure that admins can check all my pms, ip and so on... because i have nothing to hide and they will not find anything funny!!!

I hope to have clarified all the possible doubts and concern that may have been raised. If i missed something i will add it in a second moment.

(CREDITS ROLLS)

[outsider]

(POST ENDING SCENE)

Black text = Hector
Red text = me

#CRUSHED

please... if you enjoyed this public massacre, leave me a like or a comment...  please! it's the least that you can do.
Not every day a reverse scammer accusation happens.
Oh, Hector, do you want an advice? End it right here... because it can only goes worst!
My method is unassailable under any point of view!
The only thing that i appreciate about you, is that at least you said that the math is good, and the strategy it's useful.. i just don't get why you done all this... however the show is over.

[outsider]

Rather buy my baccarat 3 strategy for 300 bucks, what I have introduced in my baccarat thread recently. No scam, no cheat, was created only for online tables. 0-24 contact, if you record to lose your bankroll, I send back you the money.

I am sorry you get scammed.

Don't be sorry for him... be sorry for me that i wasted so much time, and please don't do free marketing for you here... this is my space hahahaha I'm receiving free marketing here!

[outsider]

1) Your uncle or someone that i don't remember works in the crimes section of the police or whatever.
2) Your father is one of the best judges in your city!
3) You have friends in law.
4) You have been in this field for 15 years.
5) You have a group of experts that value methods hahahaha sorry i can't stop laughing.
6) You asked the money to buy this thing... to your mum...
7) The owner of the paypal account is your cousin!


I swear i'm almost dying for the amount of laughs, thats this list generates in me each time i read it!

#judge #policeOfficer #lawlyer #groupOfExperts #15years

[outsider]

1) Your uncle or someone that i don't remember works in the crimes section of the police or whatever.
2) Your father is one of the best judges in your city!
3) You have friends in law.
4) You have been in this field for 15 years.
5) You have a group of experts that value methods hahahaha sorry i can't stop laughing.
6) You asked the money to buy this thing... to your mum...
7) The owner of the paypal account is your cousin!


I swear i'm almost dying for the amount of laughs, thats this list generates in me each time i read it!

#judge #policeOfficer #lawlyer #groupOfExperts #15years

"your math is nice, but the casino in Spain are manipulated!" so......... hahahahahahahahaha go to the police and sue them, not me. Even you have admitted that i'm legit, and they are the scammers! Take your 4 imaginary friends, along with the judge, the police officer, the lawlyer and your cousin... take all the sagrada familia and go hahahahahahahahahahahaha.
What a ride Hector/GameOver/Sergio!!!

[game over]

Are you angry for deceiving me and others? HAHAHA, FUCKING SCAMMER !!
Does it bother you that everyone knows that you are a scammer LORENZO LIZZI? HAHAHA, FUCKING SCAMMER !!
What good is your math if you can't win at roulette? NOTHING!! SCAMMER FUCK !!
Did you claim to have a winning system that outweighs the house edge? YES, is it true that he manages to win? DO NOT!! SCAMMER FUCK !!
Mr. Nichedelico, did you pay 1000 euros just for information and not for a winning system? ok, go ahead ... but do not say for public this and for private something else! LIAR!! ANOTHER LIKE LORENZO, THEY ARE UNITED IN THIS SCAM !! CAREFUL!!
Help me every day HAHAHAHA, he sent me two files and told me two nonsense and look for life! SWINDLER!!!

Of course you have been reported to the judicial police for monetary crimes in my country!
We have already done it 3 people from 3 different cities with proof of your scam and proof that what you say IS NEITHER A SYSTEM, NOR WORKS, FUCKING SCAM!

You have the wrong person Mr. LORENZO LIZZI !!!

You will see it yourself, when the complaints arrive and I have you booked for scam! time to time sir ...

I ask the administrators of this forum to kick this man out for SCAM !!!
THIS GENTUZA CANNOT BE IN THE FORUMS, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DECEIVE, MR. STEVE AND COMPANY, KICK HIM !!

I have nothing more to say, I'm not going to continue feeding a SHIT SCAMMER AND HIS NICHEDELICO SHAMFUL of him !!

THANK YOU!

[game over]

Here is the shit that this man sends for 1000 euros!
this is worth 1000 euros ??
hahahahahahahahahah .... don't make me laugh, SCAMMER !!

Why don't the files come out?

[outsider]

Are you angry for deceiving me and others? HAHAHA, FUCKING SCAMMER !!
Does it bother you that everyone knows that you are a scammer LORENZO LIZZI? HAHAHA, FUCKING SCAMMER !!
What good is your math if you can't win at roulette? NOTHING!! SCAMMER FUCK !!
Did you claim to have a winning system that outweighs the house edge? YES, is it true that he manages to win? DO NOT!! SCAMMER FUCK !!
Mr. Nichedelico, did you pay 1000 euros just for information and not for a winning system? ok, go ahead ... but do not say for public this and for private something else! LIAR!! ANOTHER LIKE LORENZO, THEY ARE UNITED IN THIS SCAM !! CAREFUL!!
Help me every day HAHAHAHA, he sent me two files and told me two nonsense and look for life! SWINDLER!!!

Of course you have been reported to the judicial police for monetary crimes in my country!
We have already done it 3 people from 3 different cities with proof of your scam and proof that what you say IS NEITHER A SYSTEM, NOR WORKS, FUCKING SCAM!

You have the wrong person Mr. LORENZO LIZZI !!!

You will see it yourself, when the complaints arrive and I have you booked for scam! time to time sir ...

I ask the administrators of this forum to kick this man out for SCAM !!!
THIS GENTUZA CANNOT BE IN THE FORUMS, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DECEIVE, MR. STEVE AND COMPANY, KICK HIM !!

I have nothing more to say, I'm not going to continue feeding a SHIT SCAMMER AND HIS NICHEDELICO SHAMFUL of him !!

THANK YOU!

ok, now i'm thinking that your mental health is not very stable... i mean... at this point, every sane people would have stopped... Do you even realize the bad figure that you are doing? I think not at this point!