Let’s Talk ( Ideas/Theories/Random)

[TRD]

@check your pm, so you won't say I making the stats up
(link to the v1.0 file).

If you are implying solely at the figures based MT101 posted;
the only thing in question is the 'quality' of YN sieving.

Figures show at least a break-even in 1200 spins,
everything extra, the YN=n/a spins being sieved-off,
is pure profit.

I haven't had the chance to look into it without a spreadsheet made,
MT refuses to post & shut his mouth, so at this point I can neither confirm nor deny.

He implied dozens too, his profit from simulated games is more than 1u/spin ..
so as he said .. look deeper.

[MoneyT101]

his profit from simulated games is more than 1u/spin ..
so as he said .. look deeper.

I’m playing double street maybe 1 or 2 a spin.  Rarely 3 but it has happened

[MoneyT101]

roulette-simulator.info/en/game/c1e619c9d9a3d325201ef12ceeed31bc

I should have won double but i played the wrong line by mistake 

[TRD]

Group stats for 20.000 spins.
Mind that this does not account for sieved-off 'YN=n/a' yet.

[TRD]

Hmmm .. it was my assumption that since DS is 5:1, 0.2 must be the break-even point .. 1 in 5 to break even. I checked this math today, and it doesn't add up.

DS -- 5 spins .. 1x5-4x1=1 .. so 100/6=15=16.6666666 .. since 6-spin ds cycle.
Same goes for 2DS -- 3-spin cycle .. 1x4-2x2 .. 100/3=33.3333333333.

Thereof correction.

[Blueprint]

Has MoneyT created dependence? 

[MoneyT101]

So i didn't explore this method in combination with other number sets line DS and street.  Maybe there is a correlation.  I didn't go to deep in that route to be honest. But this idea shared does ok playing one of the groups which is YN and you noticed that as well.  No its not always 1 or 2 numbers but its does ok flatbet and worth looking into.

Has MoneyT created dependence? 

Nope

New subject this one is getting boring… 

anybody else enjoys progressions?  I think I’m addicted to the excitement 

[plolp]

               
6   6            612345
4   5            461235
3   5   NY         346125
1   4   NN         134625
5   6   NN         513462
4   4   YY         451362
5   2   NN         541362
1   3   NN         154362
6   5   NN         615432
3   5   NY         361542
5   4   YN         536142
6   3   NN         653142
6   1   YN         653142
4   5   NY         465312
6   2   YN         645312
4   2   NY         465312
6   2   YY         
Can you win by playing only one DS?

[MoneyT101]

anybody else enjoys progressions?  I think I’m addicted to the excitement 

I’m serious I might have a problem 

What’s a good bankroll to have for a progression?  100, 500, 1000 units

[MoneyT101]

Hmmm .. it was my assumption that since DS is 5:1, 0.2 must be the break-even point .. 1 in 5 to break even. I checked this math today, and it doesn't add up.

DS -- 5 spins .. 1x5-4x1=1 .. so 100/6=15=16.6666666 .. since 6-spin ds cycle.
Same goes for 2DS -- 3-spin cycle .. 1x4-2x2 .. 100/3=33.3333333333.

Thereof correction.

You’re calculation is still wrong because it assumes you are only playing 1 number

[TRD]

True, it ain't yet correct fully .. since the tool used doesn't have implemented all the properties yet (Specified 123456 for each group, Zero, YN=n/a no-bet spins).

Enough to give the surface assessment for now, & judgment of being worthy of time to explore deeper.


Although the profit mark cannot be evaluated precisely, the hitrate - numbers & percentage are correct; thereof a rough assessment of profit for YN is approximate.

[TRD]

True, it ain't yet correct fully .. since the tool used doesn't have implemented all the properties yet (Specified 123456 for each group, Zero, YN=n/a no-bet spins).

Enough to give the surface assessment for now, & judgment of being worthy of time to explore deeper.


Although the profit mark cannot be evaluated precisely, the hitrate - numbers & percentage are correct; thereof a rough assessment of profit for YN is, for now, only approximate.

. Speculating on NY & 'YN+NY', for now, is pointless.

[TRD]

What’s a good bankroll to have for a progression?  100, 500, 1000 units

100 for most cases, & a double of that, to top up, for good measure.

Ie. if you are progressing in-risk to eventually close with a 'focused' single ST,
& you stretch the 'wide' (2x positions, 1u/each) all the way till ≈(-35,-40).
With bs quality, such as above, even further.

[Blueprint]

What’s a good bankroll to have for a progression?  100, 500, 1000 units

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[FreeRoulette]

I’ll start of by saying, I don’t have an HG.  So anything spoken about in this thread; please just keep that in mind. 

Let’s explore through different topics and see what we can come up with or if we can tackle some theories and get a better understanding of something.  Anyone that’s sent me pm you can ask your questions here.

I don’t want to pick the first topic… so anyone with the first post after me decide.

what do you want to speak about?

- The law of the third basically says 24 numbers will come up in 37 spins.
- Dealer signature shows that dealers can spin in the same areas.
- Wheel bias shows that the wheel could have a defect to favor certain numbers
- On average a number will repeat by the 8th spin

Conclusion: It is much better to bet on numbers that came up already than to bet on cold numbers.