Question for Victor and all.....

[MrJ]

I have seen this on another forum (can't remember which one?)......A person can only view this site if they are REGISTERED! To be specific, they can 'see' the site itself but NOT read one single thread/post if not registered, I love the idea. I'm tired of looking at all the GOOFS (guests) catching a FREE RIDE of information but contributing nothing. Any thoughts on the subject?

Ken

[esoito]

Great idea 

Hopefully, if Victor agrees, then it won't involve him in too much extra work.

He sure has a lot on at the moment.

[MrJ]

Yeah, he is busy, I understand. I like this idea *a lot*. It sucks looking at the free loaders.....oops I'm sorry, the 'guests' 

Ken

[sekuritati]

I agree

[chrisbis]

For my take on this- I don't agree.

Guests become new members..........................then become great posters like yourself Ken.

Don't think it would give any "weight" to a potential new member who begins their
journey here as a viewing Guest, for them not to be able to sample the wares
so2speak, and flavour the aroma in this hollowed place.

Where I would agree, is that some 'juicy' content could be locked away, till they are a fully signed up member, maybe something like limit access to the FULL SYSTEMS section, and of course, other tools that exist within the site.
Limits could be set for the download section too.

But really, the initial access to this forum, should start out free, without registration and
there to do the sort of work that any good chef would seek- to wet one's apetite.

For most "Guests" (quote- free-loaders), to be here in the first instance, shows that they have done their homework.
They have already been introduced to the subject (U just don't end up here by accident),
and for this forum to grow, produce real debate on fresh thinking, new systems, trackers and
tools that we have not even thought of, - it needs new members/fellows.

When U view the stats (as I do) as to who's on line at any given time (past 5 minutes, bottom of the home page.)
It gives me great heart to see the number of Guests reading, and then U see- Guest- registering new account............................brilliant.

[ThomasGrant]

A Guest is a friend you have not met yet.

[esoito]

"Where I would agree, is that some 'juicy' content could be locked away, till they are a fully signed up member, maybe something like limit access to the FULL SYSTEMS section, and of course, other tools that exist within the site.
Limits could be set for the download section too."

That's a good idea.

Let 'em look...but not at everything until Registered.

[chrisbis]

Need to entice them in.

Wouldn't want this excellent forum to become someone's private Gentlemen's club
where the members think they are above- newbie's joining, contributing and
having fun.

Apart from VLS, weren't we all newbie's at one stage in our forum life?

[Blood Angel]

In the old vls Victors take on this was the same as chrisbis'. I raised the same question as MrJ cos I felt the same as him.
But I see the other side. I guess Victor still feels the same?

[Bayes]

I have seen this on another forum (can't remember which one?)......A person can only view this site if they are REGISTERED! To be specific, they can 'see' the site itself but NOT read one single thread/post if not registered, I love the idea. I'm tired of looking at all the GOOFS (guests) catching a FREE RIDE of information but contributing nothing. Any thoughts on the subject?
Ken

This might stop some getting a free ride, but if all you have to do to read posts is register then most people will probably just sign up and then not bother to contribute anything anyway. It's annoying, I agree, but what can you do? when the old VIP forum closed there were about 10,000 members but hardly anyone posted anything. I don't think it's a good idea to make people register before they can view posts, but limited access for non-members might be a good compromise.

[VLS]

I guess Victor still feels the same?

Yes. that's why I always refer to FELLOW GUESTS.

Registration or not, it is a living person at the other end of the screen. That's what matters.

Regards.

[Skakus]

There is no such thing as a free ride, and everyone to a man pays their dues through life whether they know it or not. Therefore even those who would seem to unfairly gain from the hard work of others must be tolerated.

I believe all guests are worthy of carte blanche viewing. They will repay any and all benevolent contributors in ways unseen.

So be it!

[Bayes]

I agree. And if you're going to discriminate, HOW do you choose who is "worthy"? plus it would make a lot of work for Victor - he would have to make a lot of changes to the forum software.

[MrJ]

No such thing as a free ride? What about the guy who is a guest and never registers? They kick back and pick up the information, thats ok? I dont feel 'above' a newbie but I do feel 'above' a person who is NEVER gonna contribute.

Ken

[VLS]

it would make a lot of work for Victor - he would have to make a lot of changes to the forum software.

Actually, it isn't that much work, but it's work that I don't consider worth doing: locking the forum for people [attachimg=#].

I refer to a message I sent to a fellow friend regarding this:

Yeah brother, an OPEN place of discussion for the free exchange of roulette information.

That's it!

No restrictions, no "elites".

Here we are all flat & the same...

Vic