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Atlantis Alternative ZONE

Started by atlantis, Jun 23, 01:52 PM 2010

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atlantis

Here's a new slant on the ZONE derivatives/waiting for dozen trigger methods much of which have been posted as of late...
Please try it for yourself.

SIngle 0 with le partage (half-stake returns)

Consider only the FIRST DOZEN and THIRD DOZEN only. The 2nd or middle dozen is ignored.

Wait for one of these 2 dozens to miss 4 times. (TRIGGER)

Now here is the difference - we don't bet the missing dozen; instead we make a bet on the even chance that contains the missing dozen; high numbers or low numbers!

If the missing doz is the first doz ( 1 - 12 ) then we bet LOW numbers.
If the missing doz is the last doz ( 25 - 36 ) then we bet the HIGH numbers.

This increases the chance of a hit because we cover an extra 6 numbers...

Simple.

We bet for a MAX OF 4 spins using the progression: 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4,5,5,6,6,7,7...etc. mentioned in another thread. If we win and are not level or + , then we start the next qualifying game at one stage prior to the last bet - otherwise the progression is reset to the beginning.
(eg: If we won on the first bet of 3 and are still not level to our highest recorded figure then the next game starts with the second bet of 2)

When we get a win inside the 4 bet/spin phase we check to see if it came via the missing dozen.
If so we track and monitor the dozens for the next qualifying trigger (1st or 3rd doz only remember)

HOWEVER, if at any time during those 4 spins a win is obtained that is NOT in the missing dozen then we take the win  - but continue to bet on the EC at the appropriate stage in the progression for a FURTHER 4 spins. (ie. reset bet/spin count to 1)

*Only if a win is obtained by way of the missing dozen OR if a 4 bet phase has expired do we stop betting on the relevant EC until the next qualifying trigger*

Aim to win 5 units a session.

Here is an example session

casino weisbaden 21 Jun 2010 - table 3
=============================
[table=,]
Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
3,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
4,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
5,14,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : High (19-36)
6,12,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : High (19-36)
7,36,Bet,2,4,-2,2,500,2 : High (19-36) *3rdDwon - level so reset
8,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
9,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
10,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
11,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
12,20,Bet,1,2,-1,1,501,1 : High (19-36) *won  - restart - continue
13,20,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : High (19-36) *won - restart - continue
14,1,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : High (19-36)
15,1,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : High (19-36)
16,25,Bet,2,4,-2,2,502,2 : High (19-36) *3rdDwon - level so reset
17,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
18,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
19,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
20,33,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Low (1-18)
21,26,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : Low (1-18)
22,5,Bet,2,4,-2,2,502,2 : Low (1-18) *1stDwon - level so reset
23,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
24,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
25,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
26,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
27,9,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503,1 : Low (1-18) *1stDwon - reset
28,6,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502,1 : High (19-36)
29,9,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : High (19-36)
30,20,Bet,2,4,-2,2,503,2 : High (19-36) *won - level so reset and continue
31,16,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502,1 : High (19-36)
32,21,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503,1 : High (19-36)
33,29,Bet,1,2,-1,1,504,1 : High (19-36) *3rdDwon - ahead so reset
34,13,Bet,1,2,-1,1,505,1 : Low (1-18) *won - ahead so reset and continue
35,34,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,504,1 : Low (1-18)
36,27,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503,1 : Low (1-18)
37,20,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,501,2 : Low (1-18)
38,25,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,499,2 : Low (1-18) *LOST - next bet 3
39,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
40,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
41,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
42,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
43,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
44,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
45,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
46,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
47,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
48,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
49,34,Bet,3,6,-3,3,502,3 : High (19-36) *3rdDwon - next bet 2nd bet of 2
50,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
51,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
52,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
53,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
54,32,Bet,2,4,-2,2,504,2 : High (19-36) *3rdDwon - next bet 1st bet of 2
55,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
56,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
57,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
58,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
59,16,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,502,2 : High (19-36)
60,9,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,500,2 : High (19-36)
61,31,Bet,3,6,-3,3,503,3 : High (19-36) *3rdDwon - next bet 2nd bet of 2
62,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
63,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
64,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
65,34,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,501,2 : Low (1-18)
66,13,Bet,3,6,-3,3,504,3 : Low (1-18) *won - next bet 2nd bet of 2 - continue
67,18,Bet,2,4,-2,2,506,2 : Low (1-18) *won - STOP AS TARGET REACHED
[/table]

+6 profit.

Slower - but maybe safer and more consistent ?

Cheers,
Atlantis.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

weddings

seems like a good method will give it a try and post the results.
-----

atlantis

Quote from: weddings on Jun 23, 02:36 PM 2010
seems like a good method will give it a try and post the results.

Hi weddings, thx for your interest. As you can see in above real session I achieved the +5 target on Spin 34 - but continued as I wanted to show a losing game and the recovery to end at +6 for demo purposes...

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

weddings

how long have you tested this?
-----

atlantis

Quote from: weddings on Jun 23, 02:55 PM 2010
how long have you tested this?

Hi weddings,
It's really, really new thought... Only testing from today. It is very slow but seems to work so far, weddings.  I'm happy for others to post their findings; comments - good or bad :)

Here is another test:

Casino Wiesbaden 21 Jun 2010 - table 4
==============================

[table=,]
Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
3,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
4,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
5,33,Bet,1,2,-1,1,501,1 : High (19-36) *3rd doz
6,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
7,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
8,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
9,31,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : Low (1-18)
10,21,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Low (1-18)
11,26,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,497,2 : Low (1-18)
12,1,Bet,2,4,-2,2,499,2 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 1st@2
13,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
14,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
15,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
16,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
17,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
18,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
19,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
20,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
21,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
22,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
23,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
24,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
25,23,Bet,2,4,-2,2,501,2 : High (19-36) *won - level - reset - continue
26,6,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : High (19-36)
27,10,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : High (19-36)
28,3,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,497,2 : High (19-36)
29,8,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,495,2 : High (19-36) *LOST - next bet 3
30,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
31,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
32,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
33,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
34,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
35,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
36,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
37,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
38,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
39,1,Bet,3,6,-3,3,498,3 : Low (1-18) *1stdoz - next bet 2nd@2
40,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
41,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
42,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
43,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
44,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
45,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
46,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
47,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
48,8,Bet,2,4,-2,2,500,2 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 1st@2
49,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
50,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
51,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
52,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
53,36,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,498,2 : Low (1-18)
54,0,Bet,2,0,-1,-1,497,2 : Low (1-18)
55,34,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,494,3 : Low (1-18)
56,32,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,491,3 : Low (1-18) *LOST - next bet 4
57,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
58,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
59,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
60,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
61,25,Bet,4,8,-4,4,495,4 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 2nd@3
62,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
63,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
64,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
65,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
66,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
67,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
68,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
69,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
70,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
71,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
72,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
73,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
74,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
75,15,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,492,3 : High (19-36)
76,22,Bet,4,8,-4,4,496,4 : High (19-36) *won - continue - next bet 2nd@3
77,19,Bet,3,6,-3,3,499,3 : High (19-36) *won - continue - next bet 1st@3
78,32,Bet,3,6,-3,3,502,3 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - ahead - reset
79,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
80,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
81,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
82,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
83,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
84,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
85,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
86,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
87,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
88,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
89,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
90,14,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503,1 : Low (1-18) *won - ahead - reset - continue
91,32,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502,1 : Low (1-18)
92,20,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Low (1-18)
93,23,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,499,2 : Low (1-18)
94,7,Bet,2,4,-2,2,501,2 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 1st@2
95,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
96,7,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,499,2 : High (19-36)
97,21,Bet,2,4,-2,2,501,2 : High (19-36) *won - continue - next bet 1st@2
98,36,Bet,2,4,-2,2,503,2 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - level  - reset
99,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
100,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
101,10,Bet,1,2,-1,1,504,1 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - ahead - reset
102,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
103,5,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503,1 : High (19-36)
104,36,Bet,1,2,-1,1,504,1 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - level - reset
105,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
106,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
107,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
108,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
109,10,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503,1 : High (19-36)
110,17,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502,1 : High (19-36)
111,22,Bet,2,4,-2,2,504,2 : High (19-36) *won - level - reset - continue
112,18,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503,1 : High (19-36)
113,4,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502,1 : High (19-36)
114,14,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,500,2 : High (19-36)
115,24,Bet,2,4,-2,2,502,2 : High (19-36) *won - next bet 1st@2 - continue
116,8,Bet,2,0,-2,2,500,2: High (19-36)
117,25,Bet,2,4,-2,2,502,2: High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 1st@2
118,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
119,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
120,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
121,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
122,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
123,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
124,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
125,5,Bet,2,4,-2,2,504,2 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - level - reset
126,34,Bet,1,2,-1,1,505,1 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - (STOP TARGET +5)
[/table]

+5. Longer but achieved result - not too many problems.

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

keel44

Fantastic !!

It does seem more safe.  It looks like you got keep track of a few things.  Could take some getting use to. 


Nice thinking!!

atlantis

Casino Wiesbaden 21 Jun 2010 - Table 8
==============================
[table=,]
Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
3,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
4,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
5,29,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Low (1-18)
6,13,Bet,1,2,-1,1,500,1 : Low (1-18) *won - level - reset - continue
7,29,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Low (1-18)
8,16,Bet,1,2,-1,1,500,1 : Low (1-18) *won - level - reset - continue
9,13,Bet,1,2,-1,1,501,1 : Low (1-18) *won - ahead - reset - continue
10,1,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - ahead - reset
11,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
12,7,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : High (19-36)
13,21,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : High (19-36) *won - level - reset - continue
14,35,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503,1 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - ahead - reset
15,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
16,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
17,20,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502,1 : Low (1-18)
18,22,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Low (1-18)
19,20,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,499,2 : Low (1-18)
20,36,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,497,2 : Low (1-18) *LOST - next bet 3
21,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
22,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
23,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
24,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
25,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
26,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
27,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
28,20,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,494,3 : Low (1-18)
29,36,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,491,3 : Low (1-18)
30,35,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,487,4 : Low (1-18)
31,21,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,483,4 : Low (1-18) *LOST - next bet 5
32,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
33,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
34,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
35,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
36,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
37,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
38,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
39,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
40,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
41,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
42,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
43,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
44,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
45,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
46,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
47,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
48,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
49,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
50,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
51,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
52,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
53,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
54,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
55,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
56,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
57,27,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,478,5 : Low (1-18)
58,3,Bet,5,10,-5,5,483,5 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 1st@5
59,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
60,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
61,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
62,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
63,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,483,
64,31,Bet,5,10,-5,5,488,5 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 2nd@4
65,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
66,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
67,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
68,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
69,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
70,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
71,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
72,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
73,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
74,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
75,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
76,13,Bet,4,8,-4,4,492,4 : Low (1-18) *won - next bet 1st@4 - continue
77,31,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,488,4 : Low (1-18)
78,19,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,484,4 : Low (1-18)
79,26,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,479,5 : Low (1-18)
80,11,Bet,5,10,-5,5,484,5 : Low (1-18) 1st doz - next bet 1st@5
81,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,484,
82,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,484,
83,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,484,
84,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,484,
85,1,Bet,5,10,-5,5,489,5 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 2nd@4
86,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,489,
87,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,489,
88,10,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,485,4 : High (19-36)
89,21,Bet,5,10,-5,5,490,5 : High (19-36) *won - next bet 2nd@4 - continue
90,33,Bet,4,8,-4,4,494,4 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 1st@4
91,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
92,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
93,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
94,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
95,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
96,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
97,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
98,12,Bet,4,8,-4,4,498,4 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 2nd@3
99,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
100,3,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,495,3 : High (19-36)
101,29,Bet,4,8,-4,4,499,4 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 2nd@3
102,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
103,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
104,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
105,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
106,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
107,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
108,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
109,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
110,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
111,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
112,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
113,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
114,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
115,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
116,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
117,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
118,1,Bet,3,6,-3,3,502,3 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 1st@3
119,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
120,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
121,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
122,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
123,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
124,29,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,499,3 : Low (1-18)
125,29,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,496,3 : Low (1-18)
126,5,Bet,4,6,-4,4,500,4 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 2nd@3
127,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
128,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
129,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
130,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
131,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
132,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
133,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
134,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
135,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
136,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
137,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
138,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
139,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
140,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
141,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
142,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
143,5,Bet,3,6,-3,3,503,3 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - level - reset
144,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
145,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
146,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
147,20,Bet,1,4,-1,1,504,1 : High (19-36) *won - STOPPED due to time constraints
[/table]

A difficult and time consuming session... Stopped here at +4. Pretty sure I would have eventually got the 5pts though :)
It was hard work - but if it can work maybe not so bad. They won't always be this tough a session. It will be interesting to see how it fares in subsequent tests...
Remember the tracking and waiting take up a lot of the above spins. Only 38 bets were actually made.

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

atlantis

Casino Wiesbaden 21 Jun 2010 - Table 9
==============================
[table=,]
Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
3,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
4,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
5,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
6,1,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : High (19-36)
7,9,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : High (19-36)
8,30,Bet,2,4,-2,2,500,2 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - level -reset
9,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
10,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
11,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
12,25,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Low (1-18)
13,23,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : Low (1-18)
14,26,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : Low (1-18)
15,29,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,494,2 : Low (1-18) *LOST - next bet 3
16,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
17,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
18,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
19,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
20,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
21,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
22,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
23,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
24,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
25,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
26,6,Bet,3,6,-3,3,497,3 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 2nd@2
27,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
28,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
29,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
30,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
31,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
32,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
33,19,Bet,2,4,-2,2,499,2 : High (19-36)
34,26,Bet,2,4,-2,2,501,2 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - ahead - reset
35,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
36,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
37,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
38,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
39,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
40,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
41,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
42,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
43,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
44,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
45,12,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : High (19-36)
46,5,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : High (19-36)
47,14,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,497,2 : High (19-36)
48,29,Bet,2,4,-2,2,499,2 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 1st@2
49,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
50,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
51,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
52,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
53,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
54,18,Bet,2,4,-2,2,501,2 : Low (1-18) *won - level - reset - continue
55,30,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : Low (1-18)
56,23,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Low (1-18)
57,21,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,497,2 : Low (1-18)
58,9,Bet,2,4,-2,2,499,2 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 1st@2
59,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
60,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
61,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
62,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
63,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
64,17,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,497,2 : High (19-36)
65,14,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,495,2 : High (19-36)
66,6,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,492,3 : High (19-36)
67,36,Bet,3,6,-3,3,495,3 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 1st@3
68,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
69,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
70,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
71,14,Bet,3,6,-3,3,498,3 : Low (1-18) *won - next bet 2nd@2
72,28,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : Low (1-18)
73,22,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,493,3 : Low (1-18)
74,26,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,490,3 : Low (1-18)
75,9,Bet,4,8,-4,4,494,4 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 2nd@3
76,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
77,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
78,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
79,19,Bet,3,6,-3,3,497,3 : High (19-36) *won - next bet 1st@3
80,33,Bet,3,6,-3,3,500,3 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 2nd@2
81,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
82,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
83,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
84,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
85,34,Bet,2,4,-2,2,502,2 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - ahead - reset
86,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
87,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
88,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
89,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
90,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
91,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
92,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
93,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
94,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
95,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
96,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
97,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
98,0,Bet,1,0,-0.5,-0.5,501.5,1 : Low (1-18) *zero (half stake return)
99,18,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502.5,1 : Low (1-18) *won - ahead - reset - continue
100,3,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503.5,1 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - ahead - reset
101,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503.5,
102,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503.5,
103,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503.5,
104,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503.5,
105,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503.5,
106,32,Bet,1,2,-1,1,504.5,1 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - ahead - reset
107,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504.5,
108,33,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503.5,1 : Low (1-18)
109,6,Bet,1,2,-1,1,504.5,1 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - level - reset
110,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504.5,
111,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504.5,
112,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504.5,
113,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504.5,
114,22,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503.5,1 : Low (1-18)
115,24,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502.5,1 : Low (1-18)
116,11,Bet,2,4,-2,2,504.5,2 : Low (1-18) 1st doz - level - reset
117,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504.5,
118,13,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503.5,1 : High (19-36)
119,16,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502.5,1 : High (19-36)
120,22,Bet,2,4,-2,2,504.5,2 : High (19-36) *won - level - reset - continue
121,25,Bet,1,2,-1,1,505.5,1 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - ahead - STOP TARGET
[/table]

+5.5pts.
That completes the wins on all 4 tables on this day.

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

GLC

A.

Good to see you back. 

I really like this system.  I need to study your explanation to make sure I understand it.  Here's the way I see it. 

You played 4 sessions of real spins. 
You won a total of 20.5 units.
Your largest bet was 5 units.
Your highest drawdown was 22 units.


I am looking for a solid system that doesn't use a high progression.  Doesn't have large drawdowns, but wins at a slow but steady rate.

If I took $10,000 and played $50 units and played those 4 games I would have had a highest drawdown of $1100. Acceptable
My highest bet would have been $250.  Acceptable
Total amount won would have been $1025.  Acceptable
At 30 spins per hour (slow but can be found anywhere) that's 15+ hours.  Acceptable
That's about $68 per hour.  Acceptable
At 20 hours per week, that's $1360 per week. 
In about 7.5 weeks I double my bankroll to $20,000
Then I go to $100 units.

Is this what we're looking for?

If it's not, then what the heck are we doing?

Okay, now that I'm back on planet Earth.  I had some trouble feeling okay about giving up a 2:1 payoff in exchange for a 50% greater chance to win.  If it continues to win like your trials, so be it.

I will definitely start helping you test this baby.

lol,   George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

A.

If I read it correctly, you are saying that we continue to bet on the same e.c. for up to two 4 bets if the winning number doesn't come from the qualifying dozen.  If we lose both of these, it would mean that the dozen hasn't hit in 12 spins.  Nevertheless, we look for another qualifying dozen.  This prevents us from chasing a 30 spin sleeping dozen, right??

G.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

atlantis

Hi GLC,

Good. I hope this idea can help.

Quote
A) HOWEVER, if at any time during those 4 spins a win is obtained that is NOT in the missing dozen then we take the win  - but continue to bet on the EC at the appropriate stage in the progression for a FURTHER 4 spins. (ie. reset bet/spin count to 1)

B) *Only if a win is obtained by way of the missing dozen OR if a 4 bet phase has expired do we stop betting on the relevant EC until the next qualifying trigger*

S'pose it really should have said "ANOTHER" 4 spins instead of "FURTHER" 4 spins. But the main rule to note (which I've marked B) is if the 4 bet phase has expired then you have to STOP and yes, wait for the next TRIGGER to bet... (1st or 3rd dozen has missed for EXACTLY 4 spins)
A loss of all 4 steps in the betting phase means you STOP the betting phase - irrespective of how long the missing dozen has actually slept - it could HIT at any time as you pointed out...
Of course if you win by way of the sleeping dozen then you also STOP betting that EC too.

A.

PS.  Another way could be if you won on the EC (but it was not the sleeping dozen) then carry on and play out the the remaining spins of the 4 bet cycle only...
eg: If won on 1st bet only play a possible further 3 bets on the EC. If you won on the 2nd bet only play a possible further 2 bets on the EC. If won on the 3rd - play a further ONE spin... But I did not do that in the tests so far.

Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

atlantis

Another session.
This time from Casino West Berlin 23 Jun 2010 - table 3
Session gets off to bad start with 2 consecutive losers. Highest bet made=6.

[table=,]
Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
3,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
4,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
5,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
6,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
7,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
8,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
9,7,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : High (19-36)
10,8,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : High (19-36)
11,14,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : High (19-36)
12,11,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,494,2 : High (19-36) *LOST - next bet 3
13,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
14,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
15,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
16,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
17,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
18,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
19,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
20,17,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,491,3 : High (19-36)
21,9,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,488,3 : High (19-36)
22,7,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,484,4 : High (19-36)
23,14,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,480,4 : High (19-36) *LOST - next bet 5
24,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
25,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
26,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
27,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
28,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
29,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
30,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
31,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
32,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
33,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
34,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
35,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
36,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
37,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
38,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
39,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
40,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
41,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,480,
42,10,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,475,5 : High (19-36)
43,17,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,470,5 : High (19-36)
44,32,Bet,6,12,-6,6,476,6 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 2nd@5
45,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,476,
46,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,476,
47,32,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,471,5 : Low (1-18)
48,6,Bet,6,12,-6,6,477,6 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next  bet 2nd@5
49,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,477,
50,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,477,
51,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,477,
52,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,477,
53,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,477,
54,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,477,
55,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,477,
56,26,Bet,5,10,-5,5,482,5 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 1st@5
57,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
58,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
59,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
60,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
61,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
62,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
63,20,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,477,5 : Low (1-18)
64,3,Bet,5,10,-5,5,482,5 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 1st@5
65,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
66,21,Bet,5,10,-5,5,487,5 : High (19-36) *won - continue - next bet 2nd@4
67,23,Bet,4,8,-4,4,491,4 : High (19-36) *won - continue - next bet 1st@4
68,14,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,487,4 : High (19-36)
69,19,Bet,4,8,-4,4,491,4 : High (19-36) *won - continue - next bet 1st@4
70,30,Bet,4,8,-4,4,495,4 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 2nd@3
71,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
72,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
73,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
74,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
75,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
76,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
77,17,Bet,3,6,-3,3,498,3 : Low (1-18) *won - next bet 1st@3
78,4,Bet,3,6,-3,3,501,3 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - level - reset
79,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
80,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
81,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
82,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
83,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
84,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
85,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
86,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
87,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
88,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
89,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
90,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
91,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
92,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
93,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
94,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
95,2,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - ahead - reset
96,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
97,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
98,14,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : High (19-36)
99,0,Bet,1,0,-0.5,-0.5,500.5,1 : High (19-36) *zero (half-stake return)
100,36,Bet,2,4,-2,2,502.5,2 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - ahead - reset
101,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
102,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
103,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
104,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
105,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
106,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
107,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
108,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
109,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
110,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
111,7,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501.5,1 : High (19-36)
112,16,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500.5,1 : High (19-36)
113,31,Bet,2,4,-2,2,502.5,2 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - level - reset
114,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
115,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
116,28,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501.5,1 : Low (1-18)
117,16,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502.5,1 : Low (1-18) *won - level - reset
118,25,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501.5,1 : Low (1-18)
119,9,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502.5,1 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - level - reset
120,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
121,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
122,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
123,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
124,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
125,18,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503.5,1 : Low (1-18) *won - ahead - reset
126,35,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502.5,1 : Low (1-18)
127,35,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501.5,1 : Low (1-18)
128,20,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,499.5,2 : Low (1-18)
129,4,Bet,2,4,-2,2,501.5,2 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 1st@2
130,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501.5,
131,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501.5,
132,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501.5,
133,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501.5,
134,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501.5,
135,16,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,499.5,2 : High (19-36)
136,14,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,497.5,2 : High (19-36)
137,11,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,494.5,3 : High (19-36)
138,20,Bet,3,6,-3,3,497.5,3 : High (19-36) *won - next bet 1st@3
139,25,Bet,3,6,-3,3,500.5,3: High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 2nd@2
140,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500.5,
141,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500.5,
142,7,Bet,2,4,-2,2,502.5,2 : Low (1-18) *!st doz - next bet 1st@2
143,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
144,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
145,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502.5,
146,30,Bet,2,4,-2,2,504.5,2 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - ahead - reset
147,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504.5,
148,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504.5,
149,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504.5,
150,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504.5,
151,33,Bet,1,2,-1,1,505.5,1 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - ahead  - STOP TARGET
[/table]

+5.5pts

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

atlantis

This session wins much quicker.

Casino West Berlin 23 Jun 2010 - Table 4
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[table=,]
Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
3,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
4,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
5,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
6,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
7,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
8,31,Bet,1,2,-1,1,501,1 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - ahead - reset
9,2,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - ahead - reset
10,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
11,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
12,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
13,4,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : High (19-36)
14,5,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : High (19-36)
15,34,Bet,2,4,-2,2,502,2 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - level - reset
16,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
17,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
18,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
19,6,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503,1 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - ahead - resest
20,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
21,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
22,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
23,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
24,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
25,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
26,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
27,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
28,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
29,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
30,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
31,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
32,13,Bet,1,2,-1,1,504,1 : Low (1-18) *won - ahead - reset - continue
33,1,Bet,1,2,-1,1,505,1 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - ahead - STOP TARGET
[/table]

+5pts.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

atlantis

Results for Casino Wiesbaden 22 Jun 2010:
Table 3: +5 in 75 spins; maxdrawdown=11; highest bet=3
Table 4: +5 in 67 spins; maxdrawdown=16; highest bet=4
Table 9: +5 in 74 spins; maxdrawdown=6 ;highest bet=3

Those were quite satisfactory results, I think :)

However, I want to be honest with you and not hide anything and only post truthful results... Table 8 proved a real shocker - nothing going much right and I was down over 100 pts at one stage in the test. This turned out to be the first very bad result encountered under my original rules.

But --- not to be too dismayed or outdone I replayed this session using the idea in the previous post (limiting bet phase to a cycle of 4) - The upshot of that was it turned the result around completely - Now although a low point of 464 out of 500 (36 point deficit) was met I decided to conclude the session eventually finishing with a profit of +2. (still think I would have got the +5 though)
So this might be a better (safer) option for the future. What you think???
This most difficult session yet lasted a whopping 265 spins though!

I am publishing this Table 8 session in its entirety so you can see the sequence of events using the modification. (I did made a small mistake but its basically irrelevant to the overall picture)
Now no more than a max of 4 bets are placed in a game cycle of 4 spins...

Table 8
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[table=,]
Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
3,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
4,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
5,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
6,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
7,20,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Low (1-18)
8,25,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : Low (1-18)
9,32,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : Low (1-18)
10,2,Bet,2,4,-2,2,498,2 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 1st@2
11,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
12,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
13,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
14,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
15,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
16,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
17,9,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : High (19-36)
18,9,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,494,2 : High (19-36)
19,5,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,491,3 : High (19-36)
20,18,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,488,3 : High (19-36) *LOST - next bet 1st@4
21,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
22,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
23,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
24,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
25,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
26,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
27,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
28,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
29,20,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,484,4 : Low (1-18)
30,2,Bet,4,8,-4,4,488,4 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 1st@4
31,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
32,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
33,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
34,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
35,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
36,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
37,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
38,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
39,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
40,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
41,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,488,
42,4,Bet,4,8,-4,4,492,4 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 2nd@3
43,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,492,
44,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,492,
45,25,Bet,3,6,-3,3,495,3 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 1st@3
46,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
47,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
48,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
49,9,Bet,3,6,-3,3,498,3 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 2nd@2
50,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
51,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
52,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
53,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
54,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
55,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
56,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
57,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
58,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
59,5,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : High (19-36)
60,6,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,493,3 : High (19-36)
61,32,Bet,3,6,-3,3,496,3 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 1st@3
62,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
63,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
64,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
65,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
66,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
67,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
68,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
69,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
70,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
71,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
72,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
73,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
74,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
75,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
76,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
77,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
78,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
79,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
80,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
81,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
82,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
83,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
84,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
85,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
86,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
87,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
88,19,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,493,3 : Low (1-18)
89,26,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,490,3 : Low (1-18)
90,25,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,486,4 : Low (1-18)
91,34,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,482,4 : Low (1-18) *LOST - next bet 1st@5
92,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
93,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
94,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
95,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
96,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
97,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
98,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
99,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
100,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
101,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
102,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
103,21,Bet,5,10,-5,5,487,5 : High (19-36) *won - next bet 2nd@4
104,22,Bet,4,8,-4,4,491,4 : High (19-36) *won - next bet 1st@4
105,2,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,487,4 : High (19-36)
106,32,Bet,4,8,-4,4,491,4 : High (19-36) 3rd doz - next bet 1st@4
107,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
108,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
109,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
110,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
111,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
112,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
113,10,Bet,4,8,-4,4,495,4 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 2nd@3
114,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
115,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
116,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
117,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
118,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
119,4,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,492,3 : High (19-36)
120,18,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,488,4 : High (19-36)
121,0,Bet,4,0,-2,-2,486,4 : High (19-36) *zero (half-stake return)
122,22,Bet,5,10,-5,5,491,5 : High (19-36) *won - next bet 2nd@4
123,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
124,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
125,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
126,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
127,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
128,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
129,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
130,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
131,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
132,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
133,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
134,15,Bet,4,8,-4,4,495,4 : Low (1-18) *won - next bet 1st@4
135,25,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,491,4 : Low (1-18)
136,31,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,487,4 : Low (1-18)
137,32,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,482,5 : Low (1-18) *LOST - next bet 2nd@5
138,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
139,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
140,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
141,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,482,
142,36,Bet,5,10,-5,5,487,5 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 1st@5
143,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,487,
144,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,487,
145,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,487,
146,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,487,
147,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,487,
148,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,487,
149,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,487,
150,12,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,482,5 : High (19-36)
151,2,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,477,5 : High (19-36)
152,23,Bet,6,12,-6,6,483,6 : High (19-36) *won - next bet 2nd@5
153,11,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,478,5 : High (19-36) *LOST - next bet 1st@6
154,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,478,
155,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,478,
156,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,478,
157,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,478,
158,22,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,472,6 : Low (1-18)
159,16,Bet,6,12,-6,6,478,6 : Low (1-18) *won - next bet 1st@6
160,21,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,472,6 : Low (1-18)
161,23,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,466,6 : Low (1-18)
162,29,Bet,7,14,-7,7,473,7 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 2nd@6 [**mistaken 5th bet]
163,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,473,
164,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,473,
165,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,473,
166,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,473,
167,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,473,
168,28,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,467,6 : Low (1-18)
169,19,Bet,7,0,-7,-7,460,7 : Low (1-18)
170,26,Bet,7,0,-7,-7,453,7 : Low (1-18)
171,18,Bet,8,16,-8,8,461,8 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 2nd@7
172,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,461,
173,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,461,
174,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,461,
175,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,461,
176,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,461,
177,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,461,
178,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,461,
179,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,461,
180,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,461,
181,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,461,
182,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,461,
183,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,461,
184,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,461,
185,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,461,
186,5,Bet,7,14,-7,7,468,7 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 1st@7
187,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,468,
188,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,468,
189,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,468,
190,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,468,
191,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,468,
192,9,Bet,7,0,-7,-7,461,7 : High (19-36)
193,23,Bet,7,14,-7,7,468,7 : High (19-36) *won - next bet 1st@7
194,27,Bet,7,14,-7,7,475,7 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 2nd@6
195,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,475,
196,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,475,
197,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,475,
198,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,475,
199,3,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,469,6 : High (19-36)
200,15,Bet,7,0,-7,-7,462,7 : High (19-36)
201,28,Bet,7,14,-7,7,469,7 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next  bet 1st@7
202,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,469,
203,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,469,
204,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,469,
205,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,469,
206,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,469,
207,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,469,
208,32,Bet,7,0,-7,-7,462,7 : Low (1-18)
209,27,Bet,7,0,-7,-7,455,7 : Low (1-18)
210,36,Bet,8,0,-8,-8,447,8 : Low (1-18)
211,5,Bet,8,16,-8,8,455,8 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 1st@8
212,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,455,
213,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,455,
214,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,455,
215,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,455,
216,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,455,
217,23,Bet,8,16,-8,8,463,8 : High (19-36) *won - next bet 2nd@7
218,17,Bet,7,0,-7,-7,456,7 : High (19-36)
219,27,Bet,8,16,-8,8,464,8 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 2nd@7
220,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,464,
221,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,464,
222,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,464,
223,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,464,
224,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,464,
225,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,464,
226,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,464,
227,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,464,
228,2,Bet,7,14,-7,7,471,7 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 1st@7
229,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,471,
230,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,471,
231,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,471,
232,16,Bet,7,0,-7,-7,464,7 : High (19-36)
233,35,Bet,7,14,-7,7,471,7 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 1st@7
234,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,471,
235,16,Bet,7,14,-7,7,478,7 : Low (1-18) *won - next bet 2nd@6
236,13,Bet,6,12,-6,6,484,6 : Low (1-18) *won - next bet 1st@6
237,32,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,478,6 : Low (1-18)
238,14,Bet,6,12,-6,6,484,6 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 1st@6
239,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,484,
240,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,484,
241,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,484,
242,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,484,
243,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,484,
244,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,484,
245,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,484,
246,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,484,
247,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,484,
248,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,484,
249,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,484,
250,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,484,
251,4,Bet,6,12,-6,6,490,6 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - next bet 2nd@5
252,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,490,
253,36,Bet,5,10,-5,5,495,5 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - next bet 1st@5
254,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
255,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
256,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
257,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
258,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
259,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
260,2,Bet,5,10,-5,5,500,5 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - level - reset
261,36,Bet,1,2,-1,1,501,1 : High (19-36) *3rd doz - ahead - reset
262,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
263,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
264,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
265,10,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Low (1-18) *1st doz - ahead
[/table]

+2pts profit. Highest bet=8. Lowest bankroll -36.

Maybe some more refinements or alternative betting progression can help??

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

atlantis

Quote
Results for Casino Wiesbaden 22 Jun 2010:
Table 3: +5 in 75 spins; maxdrawdown=11; highest bet=4
Table 4: +5 in 67 spins; maxdrawdown=16; highest bet=4
Table 9: +5 in 74 spins; maxdrawdown=6 ;highest bet=3

I went back and revised these results using the same mod for table 8 above and the results were slightly better as I thought (less spins; less drawdown)

Quote
Results for Casino Wiesbaden 22 Jun 2010 (using mod)
Table 3: +5 in 59 spins; maxdrawdown=11; highest bet=4
Table 4: +5 in 58 spins; maxdrawdown=6; highest bet=3
Table 9: +5 in 73 spins; maxdrawdown=6; highest bet=3

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

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