• Welcome to #1 Roulette Forum & Message Board | www.RouletteForum.cc.

News:

Almost every system has been tested many times before. Start by learning what we already know doesn't work, and why.

Main Menu
Popular pages:

Roulette System

The Roulette Systems That Really Work

Roulette Computers

Hidden Electronics That Predict Spins

Roulette Strategy

Why Roulette Betting Strategies Lose

Roulette System

The Honest Live Online Roulette Casinos

PROMISED CONSTANT WINNING BET

Started by F_LAT_INO, Jun 25, 03:19 PM 2010

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 56 Guests are viewing this topic.

F_LAT_INO

Quote from: GLC on Jun 30, 04:43 PM 2010
F.

I tested the same numbers as you did for June 27, but I came up with different results.  I may be doing 1 thing wrong.  So I have a question.

When you say to erase repeated sectors, do you mean that there should only be the 9 active sectors to choose from and we pick the 4 furthest back.  This would mean that to have 9 unique sectors we might have to look back 20 or more spins.

G
Exactly--9 active sectors-playing 4 furthest--
Here is a session from yesterday-29-06-2010 of
Wiesbaden spins-----FOURTH SUCCESIVE SESSIONS.
BTW-GLC,Could you please download Wiesbaden spins of 30.06-
and 01.07-cause I'm off to Wien for couple days.

You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

Boo_Ray

I am currently at +324 with 1 loss..

I noticed that going past 5th or 6st step it usualy goes ugly...

F_LAT_INO

From last attachment have changed a staking progression
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-///BR-293-but the winning ratio is much higher.
The rules are same,always aiming 10+ or more.
8-sessions 7 wins and 1 egal.
-btw-book 8 is also wiesbaden table 3 from yesterday.
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

GLC

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Jul 03, 04:12 PM 2010
From last attachment have changed a staking progression
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-///BR-293-but the winning ratio is much higher.
The rules are same,always aiming 10+ or more.
8-sessions 7 wins and 1 egal.
-btw-book 8 is also wiesbaden table 3 from yesterday.

F.

I like your new staking progression.  I have run all the past sessions through a variety of staking plans and the one you have chosen usually did very well.  It tends to win 50% to 150% more than your original progression.  

The drawdown gets larger quicker, and it tanks in pretty much the same runs as the original, but I think the larger wins "MAY" more than make up for the risk in the long-run.  It seems to be tougher to pull out of a 5 or 6 string of losses.  Especially is they're followed by a win or two and then another string of 3 or 4 losses.  That's a killer.  But probably kills any progression on this system.  More testing will tell.

G.

P.S.  I see you got the spins for 6-30 and 7-1.  Good deal.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

F_LAT_INO

Quote from: GLC on Jul 03, 08:32 PM 2010
F.

I like your new staking progression.  I have run all the past sessions through a variety of staking plans and the one you have chosen usually did very well.  It tends to win 50% to 150% more than your original progression.  

The drawdown gets larger quicker, and it tanks in pretty much the same runs as the original, but I think the larger wins "MAY" more than make up for the risk in the long-run.  It seems to be tougher to pull out of a 5 or 6 string of losses.  Especially is they're followed by a win or two and then another string of 3 or 4 losses.  That's a killer.  But probably kills any progression on this system.  More testing will tell.

G.

P.S.  I see you got the spins for 6-30 and 7-1.  Good deal.
You are quite with me GLC---but there are some safing breaks
add to the stakings--

First step--        8-            8-
                        20+         12+---end game

Second step-     8-            8-
                        16-          24-
                        30+          6+---returning to first bet--aiming win of 16+

Third step--        8-           8-
                         16-         24-
                         24-         48-
                         40+          8-  returning to second bet-aiming win of 12+

Fourth step--       8-            8-
                          16-          24-
                          24-          48-
                          32-          80-
                          50+         30-returning to fourth step-aiming win 10+
From here onwards it goes 1 up 1 down unil we reach 3th. step
In other words we are always going one step up when losing--but
and after we get a hit,we always aiming 10 or more.
I think this kind will be much more successful with large winnings.
We shal see in next few days.
Had internet access where I was staying.
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

Twocando

Hi Boban  ( from author of book files)

Thanks for this method and it's discipline playing method it works.   yes I made a change to it and only use three sectors, not four.  If the 3 sectors covers dozen 1. 2. 3.  and column 1. 2. 3 then its a play.  I'm not saying that one need to change this method it was only to test it.

If in the last 5 spins there are 5 different sectors and the other 4 sectors not out yet are from dozen 1. 2. 3 and in column 1. 2. 3 Then I play these sectors to exit. 

Thanks for it, just something that I picked up.  In the 9 sectors there are 4 sectors thats even numbers, sector 2 - 4 - 6 - 8 and five sectors thats odd 1 - 3 - 5 - 7 - 9.  If one is eager to play then one can just pick the even numbered sectors and play them with the progression.  On the carpet you will see how easy it is to follow.  Trend to follow.  Odd to odd and even to even on the sector. 

I tried to cheat the method, play the last missing sector.  lol stayed out of play for 13 spins.  A good reason to wait till all the sectors exit.


This is surely the easiest why to play. 

Thanks and cheers.

F_LAT_INO

Quote from: Twocando on Jul 04, 12:57 PM 2010
Hi Boban  ( from author of book files)

Thanks for this method and it's discipline playing method it works.   yes I made a change to it and only use three sectors, not four.  If the 3 sectors covers dozen 1. 2. 3.  and column 1. 2. 3 then its a play.  I'm not saying that one need to change this method it was only to test it.

If in the last 5 spins there are 5 different sectors and the other 4 sectors not out yet are from dozen 1. 2. 3 and in column 1. 2. 3 Then I play these sectors to exit.  

Thanks for it, just something that I picked up.  In the 9 sectors there are 4 sectors that's even numbers, sector 2 - 4 - 6 - 8 and five sectors that's odd 1 - 3 - 5 - 7 - 9.  If one is eager to play then one can just pick the even numbered sectors and play them with the progression.  On the carpet you will see how easy it is to follow.  Trend to follow.  Odd to odd and even to even on the sector.  

I tried to cheat the method, play the last missing sector.  lol stayed out of play for 13 spins.  A good reason to wait till all the sectors exit.


This is surely the easiest why to play.  

Thanks and cheers.

Hi Twocando,
Glad that you are with me/some it seems find this kind of difficult/and that you agree with me about winning possibilities of this method.When I first started experimenting with this it was with 3 sectors/touching all columns and dozens/but of 27 combinations involved only
6 are playable---and if one of 3 sectors goes for a long sleep,other two live sectors can hardly fight other 6 opposite sectors,therefore have concetrated on 4 sectors,or 5/4 bet.---So far it shows long run winning potentials.Am also aware of wheel and carpet layouts of sectors involved in the play--about one sector/furthest/bet that you are mentioning it
also have even greater opportunities then this bet-----BUT not betting on the furthest sector,instead betting on the crossing of particular dozen&column bet until it hit the sector/the only problem I find here it is a staking plan for this bet/as you are kind of staying alive with zig--zag hitting doz-col,until it hits their sector-winning on both,and when it happens,being in plus.It requires large BR to follow this bet,but it seems that it can hardly lose  with such BR.But that is another story.Why I prefer this 4 sector bet is cause have tested/and played it for almost 2 years now with great results.In 126 possible combinations we have 36 trigger betting situations-----and to lose our starting BR-our 4 furthest sectors would have go to sleep 13-18 spins without neither hitting---and that I have not seen as yet.Some will say it will happen/am aware of that/but in the meantime our BR is
rising larger every day----is it not that the point of all this---long run winning strategy.

BTW--ONE MORE WINNING SESSION FROM YESTERDAY WIESBADEN SPINS-TABLE 3
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

iggiv

F_LAT_INO, i tried playing your system on real spins on RX. I don't know what do wrong, i watched your examples, i changed sectors consistently (if there was repeat of sector pattern to bet, i moved on, skipped it).

but i lost over 100 units in a row. one small win only. I have suggestion for u though. Either too hot or too cold sectors are tending to lose, the middle may be the best choise, think about it. Maybe 4 sectors in the middle to bet. I mean 4 second to the last sectors.

anyway, i lost many times in a row. I still think playing sleepers does not make sense. I can't understand how and why this system is winning consistently with u.

what the other guys say?

F_LAT_INO

Quote from: iggiv on Jul 04, 05:19 PM 2010
F_LAT_INO, I tried playing your system on real spins on RX. I don't know what do wrong, I watched your examples, I changed sectors consistently (if there was repeat of sector pattern to bet, I moved on, skipped it).

but I lost over 100 units in a row. one small win only. I have suggestion for  you though. Either too hot or too cold sectors are tending to lose, the middle may be the best choise, think about it. Maybe 4 sectors in the middle to bet. I mean 4 second to the last sectors.

anyway, I lost many times in a row. I still think playing sleepers does not make sense. I can't understand how and why this system is winning consistently with  you.

what the other guys say?

Dear Iggy,
It is very evident that you are doing it all wrong.There are 9 winning sessions of Wiesbaden.And these are not --usual playing sleepers--but something else that
is connected with a wheel and carpet layout,and the --not bet mode--made it a winning potentials.Once again;BETTING ON ONLY 4 SECTOR TRIGGERS THAT ARE TOUCHING
ALL DOZENS AND COLUMNS
btw-why don't you check up these 9 wiesbaden sessions and find out--but do it
propely guided by given rules..
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

F_LAT_INO

One more winning session-Wiesbaden spins
from yesterday.
Wonder how long it will last,but will continue
until it tanks--if it does.
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

F_LAT_INO

It just can't tank.
I wonder why????
Maybe some of you gents would know this.
If you don't,well I will tell you it,but its to early as yet.
BTW-Would be in profit by now-1956-with BR required
of 288.--not bad score so far.
Yesterday Wiesbaden attached.
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

F_LAT_INO

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Hard session yesterday,but still 13 th.successful Wiesbaden
session beat.

Cheers
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

GLC

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Jul 07, 10:47 AM 2010
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Hard session yesterday,but still 13 the.successful Wiesbaden
session beat.

Cheers

F.

Just wanted to let you know that I went back over all 11 of the sessions you posted and used the +8 on loss -8 on win.  I only bet  enough to be in the plus which helped keep my bets a little lower, and anytime I was plus anything, I started over at 8.  In other words I didn't wait until I was +10 to start over.

I had a stop loss of 300+.  In other words, anytime I was less than 300 down I made one more bet and if it lost and I was over 300 in the hole, I look the loss and started over at 8.

I only had 3 losses.  They were for -352, -334 & -306.  I got close on a couple of other occassions but stayed above -300 and recovered for a win.

We won 3434 and lost 992 for a net win of 2,442 units.  Even at $1 units that's not a bad showing.

There are a lot of spins played to still be up that much.  Looks like a very profitable system.  I think we have gone over 3000 spins and still up a bunch, so it passes the test that one of our comrads recommended.  (Sorry, I can't recall who suggested the 3000 spin test.)

If this keeps up, this is a very, very good system.  I didn't calculat this exactly, but it looks like the system wins at about .75 units per spin, give or take.  That's respectable in anybody's book.

Thanks for all your hard work in posting the sessions.

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

F_LAT_INO

Quote from: GLC on Jul 08, 12:48 AM 2010
F.

Just wanted to let you know that I went back over all 11 of the sessions you posted and used the +8 on loss -8 on win.  I only bet  enough to be in the plus which helped keep my bets a little lower, and anytime I was plus anything, I started over at 8.  In other words I didn't wait until I was +10 to start over.

I had a stop-loss of 300+.  In other words, anytime I was less than 300 down I made one more bet and if it lost and I was over 300 in the hole, I look the loss and started over at 8.

I only had 3 losses.  They were for -352, -334 & -306.  I got close on a couple of other occassions but stayed above -300 and recovered for a win.

We won 3434 and lost 992 for a net win of 2,442 units.  Even at $1 units that's not a bad showing.

There are a lot of spins played to still be up that much.  Looks like a very profitable system.  I think we have gone over 3000 spins and still up a bunch, so it passes the test that one of our comrads recommended.  (Sorry, I can't recall who suggested the 3000 spin test.)

If this keeps up, this is a very, very good system.  I didn't calculat this exactly, but it looks like the system wins at about .75 units per spin, give or take.  That's respectable in anybody's book.

Thanks for all your hard work in posting the sessions.

George
[/quote/
With me there was only one egal session while all other won.
That is probably cause in situations when I'm hitting a sky-high of my BR--288-am
adding previous winnings of that particular session and both times have pull up
thisway from a losing session.As have stated in the start this method wins 29 of
30 playing sessions-300-400 spins/tested and played over 40000 spins/and will continue my every day reports of Wiesbaden spins/so any one can check up authenticity/and thisway prove my point--to Iggyv and Wedding/who claimed this can not work on the long run,without even tested or tried it,but they can now,if they wish start exploring
the reason why this method is not behaving as they have expected.
There is also a third version of this method-faster and more profitable-but with
require larger BR.Will introduce it also/without any wiesbaden spins/but first let
finish the promised journey.
btw-GLC-So for records,my initial BR of 288 rise for previous wins in that particular session---exmp;if am down 256 and my next bet is 80,which is 336,am borrowing this sum of
48 from the previous won money,if there is such fond there--if not the session is a los.

You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

GLC

F.

I understand what you are saying regarding borrowing funds from previous winnings so that if you do go over -300, you can still have a winning session.  When I said I hit my stop loss, I meant in a particular sequence of spins, I had to bet more than 300 and lost that bet.  I may have only been down 139 units  considering previous wins  and I may recover all 300+ units before ending that session in the plus.

After looking at the system for a while, what we are doing is betting on the 4 sectors that have slept the longest with the caveat that they must cover all 3 dozens and columns.  That means we are betting on the 16 numbers that have slept the longest.  Seems like a pretty safe bet.

I'll be interested to look at your simplified version when you feel like it's time to share it.

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

-