I Have An Announcement To Make-I'm Pregnant.

[chrisbis]

Bud how long have u been into roulette? Did u start playing it just after a new year? Or maybe u r here for some kind of fun?
anyway. read my postings or post some anecdotes instead.

Carefully iggiv. U sound U're bordering on badger bating and being rude rite now.

I have let U post freely, un-altered and uncensored all through this Topic.

Please check Ur INTENTION before asking questions U may regret, or wish to modify and will not have the time to do so, because the Forum TIME TO ALTER/MODIFY with have lapsed.

Iggiv. I am in the next post going to flag up a huge warning sign, for all readers of this Topic, just to show that both superman, and I chrisbis ..

DO CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO ANY AND ALL PLAYERS/MEMBERS/FELLOWS/GUESTS reading these postings.

Warning to follow.

[chrisbis]

@yrt00

why do you test in a table without proper limits 0.01 - 1,000 as he recommends?

Find Us one or two then please.
When finding one, check the table limit for the Dozens/Columns, not the Inside upper limit or, RED/BLACK outside limit- it has to be specifically for Dozen even chances.

2) if it has a 30 step martingale why stop at step 23 or 24?

Because they are our TESTS not absolutes. Just testing. Testing. Testing.

3)what if you program the bot to wait for 10 miss in each dozen before start playing and just
set the progression for a 20 step?

Quite possible. Y not test that yourself and report back here. Its open house here for anyone to get involved, after-all, its just testing out some ideas, not set in stone eh superman?

4, 5, 6, 7,

I like the fact Ur asking all the right questions, after all, James came to Us at this Forum, Not the other way round. I wish James would come and join the debate- an orderly debate tho eh iggiv?

[chrisbis]

Thank you Chris 

I never knew my pregnancy would produce so much feedback.

I will announce soon the date of the baby shower, so U can all join in and send me some lovely virtual baby things.
Esoito will be thrilled.

And iggiv thinks I'm too serious sometimes- here should live in this head of mine I tell U, its so full of new ideas, new "Routines", new twists on original themes, and attempting to put a different slant on what has gone before.

We are all singing off the same page iggiv love, darling (BTW love the avatar, tho I think maybe U try flossing between posts.),  so I know Ur passion is heart felt.

But U must take note, that a no time, have myself or superman ,....
EVER had the intention of misleading anyone.

There can be only one result here, JUST ONE.

An idea has been tested to death. And that's it.

No recommends, No bot for sale, No "Routine" that everyone MUST go and play- just the front to back, side to side and arse about face destruction of a post that SOMEONE ELSE, introduced to forum.

Iggiv, there is one correction that I would like to see U make here in Topic.

U said this:-

For God's sake you could not see that this James whoever he is is here to make i.d.i.o.t.s of some people which have no idea what he is doing? Only me and Albahala noted this.
No Mods, no other intelligent people.

This is factually incorrect.

I  would like a retraction please- new post from Urself, explaining, that after carefully reading ALL the relevant posts, U were incorrect in stating that ONLY U AND ALBAHALA, were flagging up suspicions around James's 1ST and subsequent posts.

Thanx iggiv buddie, if U will do that. Love U man,

[esoito]

@chrisbis

Mate -- you're the moderator of your own thread.

You can delete any post you feel is irrelevant to the T E S T S you are running.

I stress TESTS because it's obvious some of the posters seem to have either ignored that or didn't understand it in the first place!


So, for those having difficulty in understanding the purpose of this thread let me summarise:


You are TESTING.

You are not using real money

You are perfectly aware of the dangers of martingales.

You are testing to see where the method 'breaks'

You are testing to examine worst case scenarios

You are not making any recommendations to newbies or others

You are not encouraging newbies or others to lose their money on dangerous progressions

YOU. ARE. ONLY. TESTING....


Now -- start moderating 

[But please leave this post here as a Global Moderator's clarification.]

[iggiv]

Esoito,

how do you like this phrase though

"we should eventually get to real money mode if it looks promising enough."


was it about a pure testing only for the experiment "how soon it is gonna break", or was that intention and believe that it may still work all right in real life? Let's be honest. The whole idea was taken very seriously from the beginning.

And remember: this stuff may work for quite some time. In real life too. But especially in the playtech fun mode. and I will tell you something more, bud. It MUST work in Playtech fun mode just fine. Fun mode is programmed just for this. I learned this the HARD WAY. And you know what? If this 3 dozen system becomes popular, and playtech programmers will find out, don't hold your breath if they will include it in their fun mode programming to make sure it  DOES WORK.

[chrisbis]

@ALL READERS OF THIS 3 DOZENS "ROUTINE" TESTING IDEA.

Please be advised:_

we should eventually get to real money mode if it looks promising enough."

This quote Is alluding to the next logical phase in ANY test, in which U test an idea, a system, a "Routine" (if u will) .....against real money, by...........
...................................................SIMULATION, OF REAL MONEY...............................................

That is, for those Guests who may not recognise that description, the bot (Robot) is given an imaginary BankRoll, and places virtual bets in an on-line Casino, that has free spin facility.

No REAL MONEY is placed as a bet.

Its Common Practice.
Its Standard Testing Procedure.
Its Ultra Safe.
It Gives "Real" Results.
U get better Data.
Its real RNG spins, not "Light" spins as U get in Fun/Demo/Play mode RNG.

That is what is meant by, "getting to real money mode!"


But please, LADIES, GENTLEMEN, CHILDREN (..........U should be in bed now!!)

here's the disclaimer..........dated 10/01/2011

..........there is no, non, nanna, newt, zero, zilch suggestion, that real money is used on this idea, whilst testing, development, design, twisting, varying, changing, dissecting, destroying or any other physical, electronic, literary alteration is/has occurred to the premise of the idea.

Got that everyone?

All white at the back?

Lets test.........................now then, where's me flask?

[chrisbis]

We have been testing all day today, and the honest result
is that the 3Dozen progression, is that the bet may not work
in the way was originally described by James.

By that I mean, James mentioned in his first post on the subject, no apparent risk to his huge bankroll requirement for the progression.

He never says whether on occasions that the Bank Roll could get wiped out in one session
if either the 30 levels of progression are breached, or the table limits needed up around the higher levels of progression are "holed" too.

In the tests conducted so far, level 23/24 out of possible 30 have already been extinguished

[chrisbis]

Enjoy - those who are viewing.

0.10 chip value units played.

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[chrisbis]

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: chrisbis36@yahoo.com
To: -superman
Sent: Tue, 11 January, 2011 20:21:42
Subject: Good steady result- original 3Dozen Tool

Just completed an all day test on the original 3 dozen tool.

Start BR $5977.94
End   BR $6178.10

Profit     $ 200.16

Chips placed- 0.01cents

Highest Progression (level) 4046 (22 old levels)

Time start 9.30 am,
End time 18.35 pm
Duration   9Hrs 05mins (9.08333hours)

Rate1- $0367/Minute

Rate2- $22.035/Hour

I'd take this result superman. Better than previous.

Wonder if New idea on Fibonacci progression as per Fripper/Belgian(from Roulette30) could be introduced into this "Routine".

What thinks U.

Does this version of the bot have to original 30 levels,
or is it too revised down now to 29?

Cheers mate.

(more testing- I will set up for all day testing on the new version- 'River' to provide duration test again.

Lets hope it does as well eh?

[chrisbis]

Just to update forum.

There are now 4 versions of the bot in/under construction/development.

3 Dozen (Original). .................... bot puts bet on all 3 dozens with progression upto 30 levels

3 Dozen (Wave)..........................bot puts bet on..........(under design development)..................

Dozen/Column.............................bot puts bet on..........(under design development)..................

Ripple Function............................bot puts bet on..........(under design development)..................

[esoito]

This is certainly an interesting ride!

I do look forward to reading the updates.

All credit to you, Chris, and your kind and diligent programmer, Superman (aptly named   who volunteered to help with this project) and your attention to details.

I fully endorse the comment earlier, along the lines of "if we don't test we'll never know"

Out of little acorns...

[chrisbis]

Three session results to post up.

Test Result 1.
Testing 3DozenWave

Test date  11/12-01-2011

Start Time          01.47 Hrs
End   Time          05.16 Hrs

Duration =               3 Hrs 29 Minutes
Decimal Duration-    3.483333 Hours

Start BR         _  $6263.10
End   BR         _  $6334.94

Profit = 71.84

Chips used = 0.01 cents

Rate2 = 71.84/304888 = $20.623/Hour return.

Highest progression was 9103. (occurred twice)



Test Result 2.

Testing DozColWave


Test date  12-01-2011

Start Time          08.40 Hrs
End   Time          12.00 Hrs

Duration =               3 Hrs 20 Minutes
Decimal Duration-    3.33333 Hours

Start BR         _  $6334.94
End   BR         _  $6373.37

Profit              _  $   38.43

Chips used = 0.01 cents

Rate2 = $11.52/Hour return.

Highest progression was 2697. (occurred on Dozens)



Test Result 3.

Testing Ripple

Test date  12-01-2011

Start Time          12.43 Hrs
End   Time          17.17 Hrs

Duration =               4 Hrs 34 Minutes
Decimal Duration-    4.56666 Hours

Start BR         _  $6373.37
End   BR         _  $6411.72

Profit              _  $   38.35

Chips used = 0.01 cents

Rate2 = $8.3978/Hour return.

Highest progression was 4046. (On Dozens)

[yrt00]

@yrt00
Find Us one or two then please.
When finding one, check the table limit for the Dozens/Columns, not the Inside upper limit or, RED/BLACK outside limit- it has to be specifically for Dozen even chances.


Because they are our TESTS not absolutes. Just testing. Testing. Testing.

Quite possible. why not test that yourself and report back here. Its open house here for anyone to get involved, after-all, its just testing out some ideas, not set in stone eh superman?

I like the fact your asking all the right questions, after all, James came to Us at this Forum, Not the other way round. I wish James would come and join the debate- an orderly debate tho eh iggiv?

Thanks Chris,

As soon as I find a table with those limits will report back.

If I had a bot I would be glad to test and report back also, can you point me one I can use?

I was testing on dublin just to see how it did, for a few spins ans highest progression was step 11 with 47 units, so I started playing on low limit table and as soon I hit the limit went to high limit table, with 5 units on each dozen it made about 300+ units (this just for testing as I had never seeing this way of playing)

Another thing! I usually play on Victor Chandler Casino, well thing is, they have an auto roulette, airball (slingshot) it has a pretty nice limit on even chances, 0.20 - 20.000 , for dozens its different of course , lower..

anyways I was about to do a little test over there, and suddenly... they don't let to bet the 3 dozens together, they don't let betting black/red together, low/high together, or odd/even together, they don't let play 3 columns together....

this is kinda good news! it means it is a threat to the tables! to the casino! not all the casinos restrict this bet.. anyways I am attaching a screenshot so you can see the message..

am very glad to see the reports on this way of play..if I can be of help just let me know, in the mean time I will try to hunt low/high - limit tables casinos  for the dozens

regards,
Jose

[GLC]

Chris,

At the risk of being obvious, you can always bet differentially on betting all three dozens or columns, that way the casinos won't be able to spot that you're really betting all three.  This also robs the green goblin of some of his power.

It may be a little difficult to calculate in time to place bets, but with a bot it shouldn't be difficult at all.

If this is of not help, please delete.

George

[chrisbis]

Chris,

At the risk of being obvious,[attachimg=#1] you can always bet differentially[attachimg=#2] on betting all three dozens or columns, that way the casinos won't be able to spot that you're really betting all three.  This also robs the green goblin of some of his power.[attachimg=#4]

It may be a little difficult to calculate in time to place bets, but with a bot it shouldn't be difficult at all.

If this is of not help, please delete.[attachimg=#3]

George

Say all this again George- I'm intrigued?



(wild enough for U George?)