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Seeking your valuable thoughts about RNG

Started by Ron, Jan 08, 04:39 PM 2011

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Ron

Hi there all,

I am your new player in this forum  :). its been a great pleasure reading your contributions; i particularly appreciate your critical points (wheel biasing;MM) about this whole game of roulette business. I believe there are people out there who are either RNG lover or a hater : ). So my question to all the RNGs' lover- could you please tell us why RNGs' always your preferable roulette and what are the main features that keep attracting you to  theRNGs'.

I have been playing RNGs' for years and my experiences with different numbers; specially the possibility of occering past events (e.g. win/loss hiting on a number/numbers) keep me draging to RNG. I have this feeling we all have some numbers well memorised in our head :) but sorting out the  right 'Time' is most crucial. As our mentor George mentioned earlier  about this "timing factor".
For instance if 5/8/11/10 (locates @bottom of wheel) comes there's a possibility in RNG that numbers 26/32/35 (locates on top of wheel) would show up;(Please note that there'r two obvious triggers at a time) or there could be other list of numbers that would show depending on the analysis you been digging up since the start of your session. Similarly, after (20/14/31/9/22) >OPPOSITE< (2/25/17/34/6) could show up. And they look almost predetermined numbers set by so called "roulette software".

Please share your experiences; so well could have a better knowledge of RNGs' pros and cons.

Thanks

Ron







Fripper

I play RNG more than live roulette. Why? Because it's much faster and I have no problem with it.

Ofcourse you should play on a fair RNG and only play with money you have. A fair RNG is the same as live wheel, they are both random, statistically.

Now people may have different opinions about it..

Cheers
All i'm doing is living my life.

flukey luke

Just to add something to the conversation. About 3 years ago, I did start playing some RNG roulette. I have to admit it was an absolute disaster for me. I think one of the reasons for this was because I had taught my brain to try and unlock the 'chaotic' version. The RNG model is in my opinion a completely different beast. Anyhow I stuck with it and now I feel much more comfortable with it. I tend to find hit and run works the best with RNG. I also feel that I have a better understanding of it now and my results are much better. From not able to win 1 session, I now find that I am probably winning slightly more than losing.
What do I put it down to ? I can only say 'intuition'. I get a strong feeling for which numbers are going to repeat for a few times over the next 10-15 spins and play them. In my mind at least, this is what always used to beat me and I allowed it to by being stubborn. Now you can call me crazy and say it is all down to luck. Maybe so, all I know is that I am not losing loads anymore on RNG.

iggiv

Flipper and Flukey which RNG is fair you think? Betvoyager? anything else?

flukey luke

iggiv, I play RNG at either ladbrokes or wiliam hill.

WannaWin

I think people confuse FAIR RNG to BEATABLE RNG.

In a fair RNG you can not win. because the result is 100% fulfilled with the expectations.

After the distribution of many numbers and after it levels fluctuations, the casino is the winner.

You have better chance to hit your long lucky streak with biased RNG.
Roulette is the hardest game and the more exciting for everyone because it is easy to operate and pays 35 to 1.

iggiv

Quote from: flukey luke on Jan 08, 07:09 PM 2011
Iggiv, I play RNG at either ladbrokes or wiliam hill.

Which William Hill, bud, Playtech, or i've heard they also have microgaming William Hill, is it right?

i am asking cause i find all playtech RNG extremely rigged

iggiv

Quote from: WannaWin on Jan 08, 07:11 PM 2011
I think people confuse FAIR RNG to BEATABLE RNG.

In a fair RNG you can not win. because the result is 100% fulfilled with the expectations.

After the distribution of many numbers and after it levels fluctuations, the casino is the winner.

You have better chance to hit your long lucky streak with biased RNG.

Bud, fair RNG as Betvoyager should be as beatable or unbeatable as a real live wheel, I do agree with that statement. I don't wanna go into long discussion about what i find unfair or rigged or why. I am more interested about other people opinions which exactly RNG they find "fair" or "beatable"

flukey luke

I will not play playtech RNG. The microgaming RNG seems ok to me. (look out for the VIPER version of microgaming software which william hill use.)

iggiv

Quote from: flukey luke on Jan 08, 07:38 PM 2011
I will not play playtech RNG. The microgaming RNG seems ok to me. (look out for the VIPER version of microgaming software which william hill use.)

thanx a lot for elaborating. i take your opinion as positive about any microgaming RNG, cause they must be basically all the same. Yes, i've heard that microgaming is not as rigged as playtech. thanx again :thumbsup:

Ron

Quote from: flukey luke on Jan 08, 05:16 PM 2011
Just to add something to the conversation. About 3 years ago, I did start playing some RNG roulette. I have to admit it was an absolute disaster for me. I think one of the reasons for this was because I had taught my brain to try and unlock the 'chaotic' version. The RNG model is in my opinion a completely different beast. Anyhow I stuck with it and now I feel much more comfortable with it. I tend to find hit and run works the best with RNG. I also feel that I have a better understanding of it now and my results are much better. From not able to win 1 session, I now find that I am probably winning slightly more than losing.
What do I put it down to ? I can only say 'intuition'. I get a strong feeling for which numbers are going to repeat for a few times over the next 10-15 spins and play them. In my mind at least, this is what always used to beat me and I allowed it to by being stubborn. Now you can call me crazy and say it is all down to luck. Maybe so, all I know is that I am not losing loads anymore on RNG.


Thanks flukey u right on spot..yes 'hit and run' is a megawin when u have 2/3 lucky straight hits in a session; otherwise low progressions or a flat bets on even chances do help to increase the BR; so you can later try and hit some straight no# with those extra $$ earned from ECs' winnings : ). I used to loose at the beginning now things are little better; as now i am better off combining Doz+ high/lows+ wheels' positioning. I mainly put small $.50c on double streets within 2nd and 3rd doz (mainly 13-18,22-27,31-35; with some insurance on #1,9,20,30). I count the low numbers (2,6,5,8,11,10) as back-up earners or some could count as brakes. These numbers also locate at the bottom of wheel so i could easily track them both on the wheel and on the board. Then i make judgement based on past results/factors/intution (as fluky said :)). As long as you increaseing your BR slowly everythings' seem smooth but a win on straight hit is certainly a bonus for that session. I think having a list of numbers ( eg. probable numbers, which numbers likely to come after 'X' no#) is very handy as it keeps u alert with your next options (high/low/wheel locations). I guess all types of experiences both winning and loosing make you more confident (ofcourse loosing a must to make that confidence more firm ;)). Good luck everyone.

Ron


Proofreaders2000

Occasionally I play RNG.  Something that works for me is to track 13 spins and play the hottest and coldest dozens/columns (24 numbers) up to +1 unit.  I also play 35 numbers for maybe +1 or +2 units then quit.

As for brands, Real Time Gaming is the cheapest for me (0.25 minimum).  TopGame is my favorite.  

Fripper

Quote from: iggiv on Jan 08, 07:00 PM 2011
Flipper and Flukey which RNG is fair you think? Betvoyager? anything else?

You can never be certain about who is cheating and who isn't. I haven't seen a cheating RNG yet, but there are other people who claims that they have.

I have made succesful withdrawels from:
Titan Casino
Noble Casino
Betvoyager

I guess you can put others like:
Joyland
Skyvegas
Eurogrand
William Hill

But I haven't made any withdrawels from the last ones.

:thumbsup:

All i'm doing is living my life.

albalaha

It is very difficult to brand an RNG as rigged based upon your losses only. True randomness can make any and every prediction wrong. I can brand an RNG as rigged only if any technique which is always yielding with live wheels (not wheel(layout) based technique though) get frustrated by an RNG continously. I have withdrawn hundreds of times from skyvegas(my personal favorite) and won 120 times wagering on williamhill, so I can't agree that they are rigged.

albertojonas

Quote from: albalaha on Jun 15, 12:28 AM 2011
It is very difficult to brand an RNG as rigged based upon your losses only. True randomness can make any and every prediction wrong. this affirmation is not correct.I can brand an RNG as rigged only if any technique which is always yielding with live wheels (not wheel(layout) based technique though) get frustrated by an RNG continouslythis is contraditory. I have withdrawn hundreds of times from skyvegas(my personal favorite) and won 120 times wagering on williamhill, so I can't agree that they are rigged.

Keep flooding the forum with this useless posts. 8)

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