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[GLC]

Here's an even chance betting system that will almost guarantee you a win every trip to the casino.  At times you will be in a real battle, but in the end you should pull out for a win.

The idea is based on the fact that when betting an even chance on a single zero wheel you should win on average 47 out of every 100 bets.  At a flat bet, you will end up about 6 units down every 100 bets.

I propose that if you recover losses at a rate of more than 1 to 1, you should be able to improve you record over a flat bet.  In other words, if you could recover say 2 losses with every win, you would find yourself ahead at the end of an average 100 bets.

Now this betting method tries to recover 1.5 to 2 losses with a win.

Here's how we do it.

We bet 1 unit until we lose.  After the 1st loss our next bet is 2 units.  If we wanted to we could just bet 1 unit to recover the lost bet, and if you like more of a grind, there's nothing to stop you from doing that.

I like to bet 2 units on my 1st recovery bet because most wins will happen in the 1st 2 bets and betting 1 then 2 results in a 1 unit win if either bet wins.

As you lose, every lost bet is recorded creating a line from left to right.  If we lose our 2 unit recovery bet, our line will look like this:  1,2.  Now in this case, since we want to recover at least 1.5 bets with every win, we bet 3 units which will wipe out the 1 and the 2 and we start over with 1 unit.

If we lose the 3 unit recovery bet our line is: 1,2,3.  Now we continue to bet 3 units until we recover the 1 & 2.  Every time we lose a 3 unit recovery bet, we write a 3 at the end of our line.  This will have to be recovered.

As long as there is a 1 to recover, we never bet more than 3 units.  Let's say we lose our 1st four 3 unit recovery bets.  Our line is 1,2,3,3,3,3.  If we win our next recovery bet of 3 units our line is: 3,3,3,3.  At this point we go to a recovery bet of 5 or 6.  4 doesn't work because it only recovers 1 and a third bets and we want to recover at least 1 and a half losses.  Now you can bet 4 if you want.  It will recover more than 1 loss and should work in the long run, but it will create more of a grind.

If we bet say 5, every time we win, we will have a 1 unit leftover unit which we will write on another recovery line and it will have to be recovered along with any other odd units that aren't recovered from our first line.  This also will help keep our bets smaller.

I hope this is clear.  If not just ask and I'll try to clarify.

George

[Ron]

Here's an even chance betting system that will almost guarantee you a win every trip to the casino.  At times you will be in a real battle, but in the end you should pull out for a win.

The idea is based on the fact that when betting an even chance on a single zero wheel you should win on average 47 out of every 100 bets.  At a flat bet, you will end up about 6 units down every 100 bets.

I propose that if you recover losses at a rate of more than 1 to 1, you should be able to improve you record over a flat bet.  In other words, if you could recover say 2 losses with every win, you would find yourself ahead at the end of an average 100 bets.

Now this betting method tries to recover 1.5 to 2 losses with a win.

Here's how we do it.

We bet 1 unit until we lose.  After the 1st loss our next bet is 2 units.  If we wanted to we could just bet 1 unit to recover the lost bet, and if you like more of a grind, there's nothing to stop you from doing that.

I like to bet 2 units on my 1st recovery bet because most wins will happen in the 1st 2 bets and betting 1 then 2 results in a 1 unit win if either bet wins.

As you lose, every lost bet is recorded creating a line from left to right.  If we lose our 2 unit recovery bet, our line will look like this:  1,2.  Now in this case, since we want to recover at least 1.5 bets with every win, we bet 3 units which will wipe out the 1 and the 2 and we start over with 1 unit.

If we lose the 3 unit recovery bet our line is: 1,2,3.  Now we continue to bet 3 units until we recover the 1 & 2.  Every time we lose a 3 unit recovery bet, we write a 3 at the end of our line.  This will have to be recovered.

As long as there is a 1 to recover, we never bet more than 3 units.  Let's say we lose our 1st four 3 unit recovery bets.  Our line is 1,2,3,3,3,3.  If we win our next recovery bet of 3 units our line is: 3,3,3,3.  At this point we go to a recovery bet of 5 or 6.  4 doesn't work because it only recovers 1 and a third bets and we want to recover at least 1 and a half losses.  Now you can bet 4 if you want.  It will recover more than 1 loss and should work in the long run, but it will create more of a grind.

If we bet say 5, every time we win, we will have a 1 unit leftover unit which we will write on another recovery line and it will have to be recovered along with any other odd units that aren't recovered from our first line.  This also will help keep our bets smaller.

I hope this is clear.  If not just ask and I'll try to clarify.

George

Thanks george ..very strategic1 indeed; safeguard one after another . But i was just wondering about a bet-system. I was thinking of betting 3 double streets (13-18,22-27,31-36 and numbers 1,6,9,20,30). All together there are 23 numbers i want to bet with five (1,6,9,20,30) seperate numbers. . But i am having trouble with the safe progressions upto ten (10) levels. Please keep in mind my highest beting limit 100$ and lowest 50c. Appreciate your advice.

Thanks

Ron

[chrisbis]

Clear George. 

[GLC]

Here's the same idea presented for dozens and columns.  We want to wipe out 3 losses with every win.

Bet 1 unit until you lose 3 more than you win.  Your line is 1,1,1.

Your next bet is 2 because a win will wipe out all 3 lost bets.

Every time you lose before you finally win, add a 2 to the end of your line.

Once all the 1's or recovered, all you will have left are 2's.  A 3 unit bet will wipe out 3 each 2's, so we bet 3 units.

3 each 3 unit bets = 9 units so to recover 3's we bet 5 units.
3 each 5 unit bets = 15 units so to recover 5's we bet 8 unit bets.  Etc...

If we have any extra units recovered, just let them go onto our wins total.  Example: 3 each 5 unit bets = 15, but an 8 unit bet wins 16 units.  16-15 = 1unit.  Let this just be a unit won when the line is totally recovered.

I have been testing this by playing for a dozen to repeat and it has been working fine.  Sometimes we do get in the hole a bit and it takes a grind or a lucky streak to work out of it, but so far it has always happened.

Long stretches of above average losses are part and parcel to roulette and have to be contended with no matter what bet method you employ.  This one tends to keep the unit size from escalating too rapidly and it does recover eventually.

I'm sure there's a session where you just can't win even 1/3 of the bets, so as with any gambling system, you have to have a stop loss unless you're wealthy enough to not need one.

Cheers,

George

[GLC]

Thanks george ..very strategic1 indeed; safeguard one after another . But I was just wondering about a bet-system. I was thinking of betting 3 double streets (13-18,22-27,31-36 and numbers 1,6,9,20,30). All together there are 23 numbers I want to bet with five (1,6,9,20,30) separate numbers. . But I am having trouble with the safe progressions upto ten (10) levels. Please keep in mind my highest beting limit 100$ and lowest 50c. Appreciate your advice.

Thanks

Ron

Hey Ron,

I'm not a genius which is what it will take to solve that problem.

Can you have a bet system for the streets and a separate one for the single numbers or are they tied together some way?

George

[GLC]

Here's for the line bets.

There's some room for personal preference here.  I am using 7 losses because we want to wipe out more than 5 losses with each win.  If we wiped out 5 losses, we would not have an edge at wiping out the previous line of losses.  We could go to 8, 9 or even 10, but our next bet size would climb at a faster rate.  6,7,8,9 or 10 are all workable.  Not one is more correct than the other.  They just effect the rate at which the next bet size climbs.

Okay, here's for 7:

Bet 1 unit on the last Line to hit until you lose 7 times in a row.
Go to 2 units on each Line until you hit  once which will wipe out the 7 1's.
If you haven't reached 7 losses in a row at 2 units by the time you hit and wipe out the 1's, keep betting 2 units per line until you reach 7 losses, then go to 3 units on each bet.  

The reason I say 7 for the 2's is because a hit at 3 units = 15 units won and the seven 2's = 14 units.
Do not go to 3 units per bet until you have hit at 2 units per bet even if that is 15 or more 2 unit bets.  

You always stay at the same number of units per bet until you hit and wipe out the previous level.  

If at that hit you are at or beyond 7 losses at that level, you can go to the next level.

Here is a chart for what the next level is to wipe out the 7 losses on the previous level.

Seven 1's are cleared by 1 hit at 2 units.
Seven 2's are cleared by a hit at 3 units.
Seven 3's are cleared by a hit at 5 units.
Seven 5's are cleared by 1 hit at 7 units.
Seven 7's are cleared by 1 hit at 10 units.
Seven 10's are cleared by a hit at 14 units.
Seven 14's are cleared by 1 hit at 20 units.
Etc...

This is a long haul, but I have never lost any test with this concept.

One thing I want to clarify is that if you are betting say 5 units trying to clear seven 3's and you win at 5 units after the 3rd try, you continue to bet at 5 units until you either hit and clear all the previous 5 unit losses or reach seven 5 unit losses at which time you go to 7 unit bets.

If you don't hit on the 5 unit bet until the 12th attemp, this will wipe out the seven 3's and it's over the seven 5's that will be cleared by a hit at 7 units, so we immediately go to the 7 unit bet level.

The streets, splits and even the straight up numbers can be played by adapting this method to each payout.

By the way, I've never been able to come up with a better system for bet selection than to ftl or follow-the-last.  So, all my testing is done with that bet selection.  If you have a selection method that is better at any location on the board, please share with us.

Be sure and test this before playing for the real stuff so you know what to expect.

Also, since this is a bet method, you can stop in the middle of a run and pick up at the same place tomorrow if you run out of time.

Cheers,

George

[chrisbis]

I love Ur posts George.

In an IDEAL Forum World, with every section imaginable, this beautiful explanation would be in its own place, with a title that's just perfect, especially given the current world economic fiscal predicament.

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I love U George, brilliant stuff.

May have some future bearing on our plans for the Dozens work now under way. Cheers.

[albalaha]

Dear all,
       I have already provided this progression here:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/roulette-and-gambling-framework/a-very-serious-debate/

[GLC]

Dear all,
       I have already provided this progression here:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/roulette-and-gambling-framework/a-very-serious-debate/

Dear Al,

I looked at your progression and even though it's an excellent progression, I don't see that it is the same as this one.  It does have some similar characteristics.  The one thing I do think may be needed in this method is a bet size that we don't go beyond such as you have in yours.  This is probably a good check against those sequences that are from double hell.

I read about this one in a roulette book from about 60 years ago and thought it was exactly what I was looking for.  I presented it with a few tweaks but it's basically the same idea the author had.

If our two methods are the same, then people can have the luxury of putting both presentations together to get a complete picture regarding how it works.

As you can tell from my previous posts, I am cautious to give credit for ideas, systems, methods, etc... to whomever they are due.  I never want to plagiarize anything.  My sole purpose here is to work together with everyone, sharing ideas so we can come up with playable systems.

Thank you for all your contributions to this effort also.

Respectfully,

George

[GLC]

In reply #3 regarding playing 2:1 bets I forgot to mention that if you are playing to clear a level such as playing 2 unit bets to clear the 3  1's, you don't go to the 3 unit bet level until you have either cleared the ones or reached 3  2 unit bet losses.

Example:  your line is 1,1,1,2,2,2    Now because we haven't cleared the 1 unit level, even though we have 2  2 units bet losses, we stay at 2 unit bets until we finally have a hit to clear the 1's.

This may not happen for 8 more bets.  Our line would be 1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2.  If on the next bet we win a 2 unit bet, this clears our 1 unit level and we can go on to betting 3 units because every 3 unit win clears 3  2 unit losses.

Another example:  your line is 1,1,1,2.  If on the next bet we win at the 2 unit level and clear the 1 unit level we do not go to the 3 unit level because we don't have 3  2 unit losses yet.  We stay at the 2 unit level until we either clear it by winning 2 unit bets or we lose 3  2 unit bets.  At that time we can go to the 3 unit level to clear the 2 unit level.

This is a safeguard to keep our bets from rising too rapidly.

If you wanted to really be safe, you could double everything.  Meaning, play at the 1 unit level until you lose 6 units and then go to the 2 unit level to recover.  Stay at the 2 unit level until you have won twice which will clear the 6  1's on the 1 unit level and if you have lost 6 times at the 2 unit level, you can move to the 3 unit level.  Etc...

As you can see, this is very flexible.  Depends on how conservative you want to play.

Cheers,

George

[VIP]

Nice thought George
But I am afraid that the bets will be raised high sometimes and I don t think that a stop loss will save us.

But you gave me some ideas and I will try to engineer them and test them...

Thanks

[GLC]

Nice thought George
But I am afraid that the bets will be raised high sometimes and I don't think that a stop-loss will save us.

But you gave me some ideas and I will try to engineer them and test them...

Thanks

I know that what you say is true.  Occasionally the bets will get high and we will have to either take intermediate losses or have a stop loss to keep us from total ruin. 

The way I see a stop loss is the opportunity to take those intermediate losses so we can regroup.  At least that way it gives us the option to either start a new attack or abandon the method all together.  With no stop loss, we will eventually go completely bust or spend the rest of our roulette career trying to dig out of the bottomless pit.

I hope your ideas will be fruitful and you will share them with us.

Thanks,

George

[GLC]

Just did a test on the 2:1's and had a real bear.  Got up 20 units and then dropped down to -130 and finally came back to +20 then quit.  Highest bet was 24 units.

110 spins.

Just be prepared with a realistic stop loss if you use this bet method. 

Like VIP said, it can get into some pretty big bets and if you go into another downturn when at the large unit bets, it can send Donald Trump to the bank for more $$$$.

If anyone has a better bet selection method than follow-the-last, I'm all ears.

George

[chrisbis]

Was it just a test George?

U  didn't lose any money did U love buddie?

[GLC]

Was it just a test George?

U  didn't lose any money did you love buddie?

Naw, Schnookums, I'm still testing.  So you don't have to worry about our nest egg just yet.

Here's the system in all it's pristine glory as presented by Norman Squire in his classic (??) HOW TO WIN AT ROULETTE.

Choose and even chance and stay with it because we all know that everything is random so trying to follow patterns is a waste of time.

Start by betting 1 unit until you lose.  Your next bet is 3 units which you bet until you win once and wipe out the 1 unit loss.  Now you bet 5 units until you wipe out all the 3 unit bets you lost.  As soon as there are no more 3 units bets to wipe out, you go to 7 unit bets until you wipe out all the 5 unit bets you lost.

This progression nets 2 units for every win.  He doesn't say this, but I would reset to 1 unit anytime I'm at a new high in my bank. 

That's it.  He does mention that you could go 1-2-3-4-5-6 etc... so that every win nets 1 unit instead of 2 units.

He does caution that you need a boat load of money to play the original way, but if you reset when at a new high, you can keep the wagers a little lower.

As you can see, I tweaked it a little.  You decide how you want to play it if you want to play it at all.

He doesn't apply it to other bets, I tried to do that myself.  Maybe someone smarter than I can improve on my feeble attempt.

Like Victor says, someone may read something that everyone thinks is a joke and come up with a novel idea because of it.

Happy head scratching,

G