What is the longest...

[Normy2000]

Hi All,

I was looking for the longest run of a number can win in a row and did not find here.

But I found this information on a other roulette site and tought it could be usefull for calculation of progression.

So there it is:




This page is to document some extremes that have been noted during a runoff of 1 million
spins (rng).

The data may be of some use to those looking for an advantage, and needing to know this info.

The extremes are noted below, from each betting location on the layout.




Straight up bets (betting on a single number)
payout is 35 to 1
odds of winning are 1 in 37
(European Table Single 0)
and 1 in 38
(American Table Double 0)

Most spins without a showing :
466 spins (2 numbers did this)
Second most without a showing :
449 spins (2 numbers did this)

Longest repeating number :
(Correction: 5 spins, 1 number did this )
4 spins (14 numbers did this)

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Split bets (betting on two numbers at once)
payout is 17 to 1
odds of winning are 1 in 18.5
(European Table Single 0)
and 1 in 19
(American Table Double 0)

Most spins without a showing :
249 spins (1 split did this)

Longest repeating split :
6 spins (3 splits did this)

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Street bets (betting on three numbers at once)
payout is 11 to 1
odds of winning are 1 in 12.33
(European Table Single 0)
and 1 in 12.66
(American Table Double 0)

Most spins without a showing :
160 spins (1 street did this)

Longest repeating street :
7 spins (1 street did this)

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Corner bets (betting on four numbers at once)
payout is 8 to 1
odds of winning are 1 in 9.25
(European Table Single 0)
and 1 in 9.5
(American Table Double 0)

Most spins without a showing :
136 spins (1 corner did this)

Longest repeating corner :
7 spins (4 corners did this)

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Line bet (betting on 6 numbers at once)
payout is 5 to 1
odds of winning are 1 in 6.16
(European Table Single 0)
and 1 in 6.33
(American Table Double 0)

Most spins without a showing :
89 spins (1 line did this)

Longest repeating line :
9 spins (1 line did this)

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Dozen bet (betting on 12 numbers at once)
payout is 2 to 1
odds of winning are 1 in 3.08
(European Table Single 0)
and 1 in 3.16
(American Table Double 0)

Most spins without a showing :
35 spins (1 dozen did this)

Longest repeating dozen :
13 spins (1 dozen did this)

====================
Column bets (betting on 12 numbers at once)
payout and odds same as dozen bets

Most spins without a showing :
38 spins (1 column did this)

Longest repeating column :
12 spins (2 columns did this)

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Even money bets
payout is 1 to 1
odds of winning are 1 in 2.05
(European Table Single 0)
and 1 in 2.11
(American Table Double 0)

Most spins without a showing :
24 spins (1 even money bet did this)

Longest repeating even money bet :
19 spins (2 even money bets did this)

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In another chart form


Location...Longest no show...Most repeated

Straight Up.......466..........4 (Correction: 5)
Splits................249..........6
Streets..............160..........7
Corners............136..........7              
Line..................89............9            
Dozen...............35...........13
Column.............38...........12
Even Money......24...........19







This covers 1 Million spins.

Assume the spin per hour at a casino is around 40 -
This data covers 25,000 hours of wheel spins.
1,041 days / or / 3 years roughly.



If you like sleepers, simply "reverse engineer" your systems to these numbers.

Suppose the longest progression you could make on a straight up bet is
200 spins - then you know from the above data to begin the progression
at spin 266 without the number showing.

Same for all other locations.

This will mean very very long qualification time, massive amounts of
data recording without playing and then the risk that the extremes
above will be broken during your playing session.
(not likely but anything is possible)




Hope the info is of some use.
Cheers
Normy

[chrisbis]

Thanks for the data Normy.

good work in locating the stats. 

[iggiv]

Bud check this:

link:://rouletteforum.cc/roulette-and-gambling-framework/lifetime-event!!!/

i saw one number 5 times in a row

and somewhere I saw the same event screenshot (from another casino) somewhere in forums

there is a bug, u have to copy the address to your browser window, it is not clickable.
i am going to report this bug to Vic

[Normy2000]

Here are some of these extreme....

4 times 10

4 times 24 in last 10

lots of 4 and 29

and finaly, 5 times 23 in last 10
(imagine $20 on it would have pay $3500 in 10 spins!)

Normy

[Normy2000]

Bud check this:

i saw one number 5 times in a row

Thanks for info Igor...

[iggiv]

and here is some more for u bud

link:://rouletteforum.cc/roulette-and-gambling-framework/repeats/
link:://rouletteforum.cc/roulette-and-gambling-framework/repeats-again/

[Twisteruk]

I see No29 hit 4 times and have seen a Screen Shot of a number hitting 5 times


Imagine what the odds are of seeing all 37 numbers in 37 spins ?


Thats the SAME as one number repeating 37 times !! 

[Blood Angel]

check this out

link:://vlsroulette.com/gambling-and-roulette-related/what-is-the-most-x-one-has-seen-a-number/msg81220/#msg81220

[chrisbis]

Wow, its my long lost baby------------the one before this one in my Belly!!!!!!

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Zero Green Goblin- Daddies Little Boy!!!!

[Blood Angel]

Lol ....thought you'd like that one Chris!!!

[Normy2000]

Wooow 7 0's or 7 anything! this is worst than my worst nightmare!

Was is RNG or live wheel?

I would like to collect information about real wheel only here please.

RNG is not really the roulette game.

I would call it a nice controllable piece of software that look like but have nothing to do with real Roulette since it can be controled by a human being and/or by preseted parameters to win whatever %.

So, any longest records of any king of bets on live table are wellcome and will be usefull to perfect our progressions attack ...

[Blood Angel]

Hi Normy

It was real wheel at Bella Vegas (Not sure if it has one anymore)but it did and this was on it..

[Normy2000]

Hihihi, if a dealer shout me 7 times the samething(0), I call Pittboss and ask him to remove the positive magnet in the ball and the negative magnet hiden under the zero so I can try something else than zero...

[chrisbis]

Evening lads.

May I join Ur debate here!

Can U tell me, since I have not yet experienced real B & M casino wheels,

is it standard, that after a series of 3 or 4 repeat numbers, the dealer would stand aside, and a pitboss would come along a take the next spin?

I have seen this happen plenty of time on Live on-line casino wheels, where the girl dealer would stop playing for a while after 3 repeat numbers, ad the pitboss take over for the very next spin only?

Anyone else seen such activity?

[Normy2000]

I notice that too, it append very often at Fairways casino...

Say the dealer shout 4 times Red Even(or whatever), Hoops! pitboss come and shout one spin at her (his) place.

Wonder why??? Just to break the trend?

I like to chase those repeater...BE BO RE or RO, they comeback every 5 - 10 spin.

I got my trigger set at 10 no-show repeater (the longest i saw is 18 after analysing many thousand spins). Then you go 1,1,1,2,2,3,4,5,7,9,12,16.... Usually hit quit!