Example how rigged is Playtech RNG real mode

[iggiv]

Which people were these Iggiv?

Cause it been said many many time about RNG being rigged.

And from months ago too.

there were some, doesn't matter. Now i wonder if u agree that playtech RNG could be rigged what sense did it have having test run on it? either on fun or real money play without hits?
or with hits? If u know u r gonna be screwed up by them anyway? If u wanna run test why not taking at least RX with real casino spins. beats me. I am sure of course that u would finally lose that test too if u were betting on cold.

[LeoLeo11]

Now I wonder if you agree that playtech RNG could be rigged what sense did it have having test run on it? either on fun or real money play without hits?

No sense to test any system on Playtech RNG, it's totally SCAM!

[frost]

have you tried your system against an independent RNG?

[LeoLeo11]

Have you tried your system against an independent RNG?

Hi Frost, if your message is to me, it's not a system but just a test if any RNG is rigged!!!

...and NO I've not tried it to INDEPENDENT!

[LeoLeo11]

By the way, I've heared that there is much difference between Playtech fun mode and real money mode, from other players!!!

...not sure if there is the same difference on BV?!

Regards, Leo

[superman]

Good debate, I however cant see any "proof" from anyone on the thread, where's the proof?

Like I have said many times, I have tested systems against playtech then against RX (using it's own internal RNG & with numbers gathered from forums) and lastly, I run systems against PHP's Random function too, they fail at the same rate always.

And as iggiv AND LeoLeo know, I have also tested some systems on BetVoyager, the results are the same as far as I can tell.

@LeoLeo, I just did your test in real money mode, placed $1 chips on everynumber except 1 and zero, I hit spin and rebet 5 times, won all 5!!! I didn't dare going any further incase I lost, but thanks for the good test idea, I didn't do any spins before placing the bet, just launched the game, placed the bets and played 5 times, I also tried it in fun money mode and won all 5, so why didn't it crook me?

I would love to be proved wrong, but to be honest, I think RNG, no matter where you play, will do the same to you, the problem is Random, not RNG

Of course these are only my opinions/findings, YMMV

Disclaimer: I dont work for any casinos NOR am I in anyway affiliated with playtech

[LeoLeo11]

Hi, mate!

I just think PM you about this point and the system "6 streets" more in details!

[Fripper]

Very good post superman!

I fully agree. I have never seen some RNG that cheats against me, why would they? They always win because of the house edge so there's no point. Still there can be casinos that are frauds and cheat on us, I don't know why they do it, but I guess they are money horny  

The thing is that we play against random and that's our real enemy.

That's my opinion.

[Bayes]

I would love to be proved wrong, but to be honest, I think RNG, no matter where you play, will do the same to you, the problem is Random, not RNG

Agreed. I've never seen any plausible proof of RNG cheating either. Players are too quick to condemn them, and it's only because they KNOW it's an RNG and therefore the potential is greater for it being rigged because you don't know how the spins are generated. Because most people don't trust RNG, they're tuned into looking for certain patterns (which occur equally often on a real wheel) and so confirmation bias sets in.

I'm not saying that OCs never cheat, there are certainly rogues around, but more often the rogue behaviour has to do with not paying than deliberately fixing the outcomes.

[ophis]

Hi, mate!

I just think PM you about this point and the system "6 streets" more in details!

Is there any particular reason why you have to use bold text in all of you posts?

Do you really think your opinion is so important or is it just scream for attention?

[iggiv]

gentlemen, whoever coudn't see cheating RNG, we agree to disagree...No, i can't give you direct proof. Direct proof is -- try to play for some time on playtech RNG with real money.
If u can see no difference, OK, then u can't see a difference. I congratulate you on this.
Probably if u can win on playtech RNG on a long run u may be invincible

[ophis]

Sometimes cheating is good.

I mean. We need someone who can tell exactly how does this software works. What is calculated by client and what is by server.

We could Cheat the Cheater by for example... packet injection. You could bet on 2 numbers then using packet injection send information to server that we have bet all numbers beside those 2... and cheating playtech will roll our numbers.... in theory.

[LeoLeo11]

Neal mate, if you have such results and on real money mode, what I could say!...my Regards, appreciated!
...but my observation again! When I tested some systems on Playtech fun mode it all was OK!

When I started play real money it was(OK) the same, win...lose...and I made some extra money but then the program just bite you and lose every bet! I stoped..., the next day started play again, it was the same until losed all my bankroll(not big deal only 30$)!...the same talk about it, many other players, ...many!
Well..., but NOT THE SAME ON LIVE GAME!!! NEVER!...so far

Next...I start playing on BV and with 10c Even Chance for nearly 3 months and I was wining about 6 to 12 euro per day! Well, ...up to when I start play with prgression (Marty) and with 1$ and more chips! What's happend?!... then my bankroll done, again and for a day!!!
What was the difference between Playtech and BV, you may see it up!
...as I said,I think BV platform is more delicate!(my opinion)

Anyway, I don't recommend playing on BV with chip more than 10c(0,10$)!

Fripper, with what chip do you play on BV, just asking?
...and Bayes I'd ask you too, I know from the previos posts that you play on BV?

[LeoLeo11]

Is there any particular reason why you have to use bold text in all of you posts?

Do you really think your opinion is so important or is it just scream for attention?

Hi, Ophis! ...no it's just my humble opinions, not at all!
The reason is that the letters to me are too small! My posts here are only 20!

[Fripper]

Fripper, with what chip do you play on BV, just asking?

Have build my bankroll from 0.01$ bets to 0.04$ that I'm using right now.

Have played more than 2500 spins and haven't lost yet. I am not using a marty as you do.
I have seen many series when I have played, like more than 10 blacks in a row and so on.

Nothing weird about it tho, just random speaking out.

Cheers