Roulette Bot Pro - Casino Bot: by Thomas R. Grant

[speed]

Ok, Matt (fact man),I personally think that if in the world there is no noobs, you would never sell a single copy of this bot. 

[Steve]

I has been read over 3000 times. And your just now starting to complain about it?

Its the first time I've seen it. I cant possibly read everything here.

RBP is far better software than anything you have.

what do you know about what I have? I think you better have a good look into what I have before making such statements

The software I was referring to us roulette bot plus, not roulette bot pro. So I made a mistake here and apologize. I dont know enough about roulette bot pro to comment. I will amend the original thread's name. I'm not wrong about roulette bot plus. What I got wrong was the similar names.

Matt, my understanding of your software is it is just a programmable bot. As far as I can tell it doesnt appear to support any bet selection method beyond gamblers fallacy, but if you have the foundation of a bot, this may be changed although dont expect outside bets and progression to get anywhere. Your testimonials are also misleading. May I suggest you just show the functionality of the software in a quick clear way. Thats what people would prefer to see.

I would not call your software a scam if its just a bot, but I believe the advertising is misleading. It takes the reader some time to realize you're selling a bot. The various material suggests people are winning with this great system. But its just a bot. So just focus on promoting it as it is. I mean statements like "This casino crushing software sucks money from roulette tables into your pocket on auto pilot!" are going to put off people when they see it is a bot.

Can you prove that I cannot make $1 per day then stop?  I have never tried because it isn't worth my time, but I can't say that it cannot be done, nor can you say it can't be done.  You can say that most likey it can't be done but you can't say 100% it can't be done.

Actually yes if your bot only offers betting options that are gamblers fallacy, like outside bets and progression, then yes I can prove you cannot make $1/day then stop and win in the long term (if you do this thousands or hundreds of thousands of times).

Again I apologize for mixing up the names. I'm not wrong often 

[MattR151]

Its the first time I've seen it. I can't possibly read everything here.

what do you know about what I have? I think you better have a good look into what I have before making such statements

The software I was referring to us roulette bot plus, not roulette bot pro. So I made a mistake here and apologize. I don't know enough about roulette bot pro to comment. I will amend the original thread's name. I'm not wrong about roulette bot plus. What I got wrong was the similar names.

Matt, my understanding of your software is it is just a programmable bot. As far as I can tell it doesn't appear to support any bet selection method beyond gamblers fallacy, but if you have the foundation of a bot, this may be changed although don't expect outside bets and progression to get anywhere. Your testimonials are also misleading. May I suggest you just show the functionality of the software in a quick clear way. that's what people would prefer to see.

I would not call your software a scam if its just a bot, but I believe the advertising is misleading. It takes the reader some time to realize you're selling a bot. The various material suggests people are winning with this great system. But its just a bot. So just focus on promoting it as it is. I mean statements like "This casino crushing software sucks money from roulette tables into your pocket on auto pilot!" are going to put off people when they see it is a bot.

Actually yes if your bot only offers betting options that are gamblers fallacy, like outside bets and progression, then yes I can prove you cannot make $1/day then stop and win in the long term (if you do this thousands or hundreds of thousands of times).

Again I apologize for mixing up the names. I'm not wrong often 

Allot of people get Roulette Bot Plus and Roulette Bot Pro mixed up.  I am sure that's why the person that made Roulette Bot Plus was counting on when he named it.

I am not defending Roulette Bot Plus but how is it a scam going by the fact he makes money from people signing up to casinos via his link?  That is just good marketing.  Now if he is tell people he guarantees a win that is a different story.

Roulette Bot Pro is a bot.  It has several different betting systems including inside bets that the user can configure.  Everything is clearly stated on the website.  Of course I make the website more geared toward the idea that people will make money.  That is how I sell it.  But everything is clearly stated on the site and has a free trial and money back guarantee.  Some people may not agree with my marketing methods and that is ok.  But there is nothing illegal about it.

[Steve]

I am not defending Roulette Bot Plus but how is it a scam going by the fact he makes money from people signing up to casinos via his link?  That is just good marketing.  Now if he is tell people he guarantees a win that is a different story.

How is it a scam? Read their claims.

Do you really think that hundreds of thousands has been donated by players that use the software for free?

What do you think about the casino promoters  contacting me telling me they are working with casinos, and asking me if I want to promote too for commission??

Do you really think people have made hundreds of thousands from it, and the casinos want to promote it??

Do you really think it is not a scam to tell people,.... hey! try this free bot that everyone is winnig with!.... but hey, try it only at these casinos that I am paid from when you lose!!!

GOOD MARKETING??! MAYBE, BUT IT IS A SCAM!!

Some people may not agree with my marketing methods and that is ok.  But there is nothing illegal about it.

Your perception doesn't count. The perception of your customers is what counts. Some people are plain dumb and will believe what some sellers say. But a lot are also smarter and can see through the BS. You can't have the same site that pleases both - you can either be hot or cold, not luke warm or you will a lot from both groups of people. Anyway nobody is forcing you to take advice

[MattR151]

How is it a scam? Read their claims.

Do you really think that hundreds of thousands has been donated by players that use the software for free?

What do you think about the casino promoters  contacting me telling me they are working with casinos, and asking me if I want to promote too for commission??

Do you really think people have made hundreds of thousands from it, and the casinos want to promote it??

Do you really think it is not a scam to tell people,.... hey! try this free bot that everyone is winnig with!.... but hey, try it only at these casinos that I am paid from when you lose!!!

GOOD MARKETING??! MAYBE, BUT IT IS A SCAM!!

Your perception doesn't count. The perception of your customers is what counts. Some people are plain dumb and will believe what some sellers say. But a lot are also smarter and can see through the BS. You can't have the same site that pleases both - you can either be hot or cold, not luke warm. Anyway nobody is forcing you to take advice

If claims are made that are false then it is a scam, I think we all can agree on that.  Reading the site it mentions they use "Algo-Analysis Technology" for the RNG.  Now that is total BS because all they use is a sleeper Martingale system.
I do not think they have received over 100K in donations so that most likely is false but I cannot prove it.  What I do know is their Alex ranking is an AMAZING 726!  That is tens of thousands of visitors per day.  That number is simply to hard to fake with bots, so I know they get lots of traffic.
If you want to promote casinos for commissions I say all the more power to you.  I get them contacting me all the time.  Yes I promote casinos, I don't see what is wrong with that.
As far as what the users have made on Roulette Bot Plus Example:  Valdas M $87,814 I can not prove they did not make tht much but I am pretty sure it is BS.
Overall I would say Roulette Bot Plus is a scam only due to the fact of false adverting.
Of course I do not think my product Roulette Bot Pro is a scam. 
You are correct about some people are plain dumb, I deal with those emails daily.  I guess the seller has to feel good when they sleep at night.  I know I do.  Like I said my site is a bit hyped up, but everything is on the site for the customer to read.  All the facts are there and no false claims.
I do appreciate you input Steve.  You weren't a jerk and delete the post and apologized for an easy to make mistake.  I just get pissed off when people call Roulette Bot Pro a scam.  The people that do usually say it is because they lost money or have not read the site.  But I have already gone over why that makes no sense.

Matt

[Steve]

Matt, being able to admit a mistake is a basic thing everyone needs to be able to do. Among others, a french kid I knew could never do this, so sunk deeper into a hole when he chose to attack me instead of do the honorable thing and admit he made a mistake. he did apologize to me once in private for being constantly wrong, but the last time he refused to admit mistake, then he spiraled out of control twisting everything trying to refute the fact he's incompetent. he still appears obsessed in trying to convince people I'm a "scammer". he even once reported that he made $4000 from what I taught him. but it didnt matter when someones motives are malicious. another member explained well what goes on in his head. anyway that's an extreme case of dickhead.. like 1 in 1000.

if you sell something, especially in this industry, you are going to be called a scammer at some stage whether or not you are. Because people make mistakes, have pride and can't admit mistakes, some people are plain silly and believe what others say, some people don't care to research etc etc.

Anyway good luck with your bot, but again I suggest include options that cater for advantage players too. I have no doubt that gamblers fallacy methods don't work, like progression, outside bets etc, but there is nothing wrong selling a bot that caters for people that want to use systems like this unless you were to tell them such methods work when they don't. Government laws would not require you to highlight weaknesses in your products, but they prohibit false advertising which is different. That doesn't mean people don't lie or stretch truth in advertising as of course it is common. In my advertising I try to be as direct and honest with people as possible to give them realistic expectations otherwise it comes back to you later. Be honest from the start, and you will still get the occasional dickhead, but the majority of customers will know what they are purchasing.

[subby]

If I got the software/software name, wrong then I'll man up and say sorry 

I still think all software like this isn't going to do anything other than empty your bank account.

[vladir]

I have used one of the previous't versions for the 3 days trial. I don't think it's a scam, it does what is supposed to do. I haven't bougth it because it didn't give the flexebility I seek to test and play some more complex systems (e.g. the progressions allowed where only to recover in 1 win). For example, if I wanted to play a system like this - bet 5 spins on red, and if in negative, increase 1 unit for next 5 spins - that wasn't possible. I hope this next version allows for more options. If it does, I may even buy it this time.

[Roochla]

Bot does not work at the listed casinos still.

Update promised 28.8.12 no fix.

Update promised 29.9.12.......lets see.........nope

Update promised 15.10.12................

[Roochla]

I have used one of the previous't versions for the 3 days trial. I don't think it's a scam, it does what is supposed to do. I haven't bougth it because it didn't give the flexebility I seek to test and play some more complex systems (e.g. the progressions allowed where only to recover in 1 win). For example, if I wanted to play a system like this - bet 5 spins on red, and if in negative, increase 1 unit for next 5 spins - that wasn't possible. I hope this next version allows for more options. If it does, I may even buy it this time.

You can do this with RBP...it involves using the custom betting option in conjunction with the profit target setting after saving your progression.....as the progression will not stop until the profit target has been hit.

GL

[Roochla]

Still no more fix....it has been months.

The developer keeps setting deadlines which pass with no form of update to make the software operable again.

Next promised 1st Nov...... lets see.

[virgiliodinis]

Next promise 1st Dec.

[Ralph]

I will release my bot in about a month, free download, 100 ready made scripts, make your own as well. No promise you will win, as you could in fact do it manual, the bot will just make it more relaxing. No bot can make your chances better, just easier.

I do not go for the wait until 14 reds, which is nothing but timewaste, it will run reasonable methods, which can win.  It has a feature for no scripts, most methods can be programmed using some English words, as wait until, goto and if win, if lose. The first beta testers are here, and some more will be invited. Any bets can be used, in any method.  A feature simulated manual play is present.

I have no connection with the casino, a bot must be made for specific casinos, as you must read the screen.

[vladir]

Hi Ralph. Can I try your bot?

[mobileuk]

The latest deadline (1st December) for the release of Roulette Bot Pro v4 has come.
So far now word or update.

Thomas, could you shed any further light on this?

I'm currently using Roulette Assault but this software someones messes up during bets. But it will have to do until Roulette Bot Pro 4 is released.