Good bet selection method for 24 numbers

[GLC]

Wait until a dozen hasn't hit for 3 spins.  If a zero hits, re-track.

Once a dozen hasn't hit for 3 spins, bet that dozen and the dozen that hit once in the last 3 spins.

If you win check and see if you have a new betting opportunity.  In other words do you have a dozen that hasn't hit for 3 times.  If so, same thing, bet the dozen that hasn't hit for 3 spins and the dozen that has only hit 1 time in the last 3 spins.

If there are no repeat dozens in the last 3 spins, track until you have a dozen sleep for 3 spins.

If you win a bet and the dozen that won is a repeat of the last dozen that hit, continue betting that dozen along with the other dozen that hit most recent.  Bet this way until you lose.

Once you lose, check and see if a dozen has slept the last 3 spins, if so you have a bet.

If a dozen repeats and you are not betting on it, wait until it stops repeating and then continue tracking.  Don't bet on a repeat dozen unless you are betting on it when it 1st repeats.

Play with a flat bet or a progression.

When I use a progression on a double dozen bet, I like to use the 1-2-4-8 leveller bet method.
For a less aggressive method I use a basic 2:1 labby.  Remember, when using a labby with this bet, when you lose, you have to write both bets on the end of your line to be recovered.

Here's some examples using the dozens.

If the dozens hit like this 1-3-2-1  I don't have a bet because no dozen has slept for 3 spins.

If the dozens hit like this 1-3-1; I do have a bet, the 2 and 3 dozens.  If I lose because the 2 dozen hits, I will have 1-3-1-2 and I must wait until a dozen sleeps 3 spins.

If the dozens hit like this 1-1-3; I bet the 2 and 3 dozens and if the 3 dozen hits, it's a repeat so I bet the 3 dozen and the 2 dozen as long as the 3 dozen repeats.  If the 2 dozen hits I will have 3-3-2 which is a trigger for a bet on the 1 and 2 dozens.

1
3
2
3  I have a bet on the 1 & 2 dozens
1  Win.  No bet because all 3 dozens in the last 3 spins.
2  Still no sleeper.
1  Good.  3 dozen has missed 3 spins, bet 2 & 3 dozens.
1  Lose.  1 repeated but we weren't betting on it so don't bet on it now and even though we have
    a dozen that has slept for 3 spins, we don't bet until the repeating stops.
3  Now we can bet on the 2 & 3
3  Win.  Repeat so continue betting on 3 and also the 1 because more recent than 2 dozen.
3  Win.  Repeat bet.
3  Win.  Repeat bet.
2  Lose.  Bet on 1 and 2 dozens.
1  Win.  No bet because no sleeper.
3  No bet
2  No bet
2  No bet because of repeat and we weren't betting on it.
2  Rats.  No bet
3  Bet on the 1 and 3 dozens.
etc...

Any Questions?

George

[Tomla021]

im kinda with ya george---and im in real casinos
thanks for all you do

[GLC]

I'm kinda with ya george---and I'm in real casinos
thanks for all you do

Tom,

I have been testing and fine tuning this one and have gotten down to a very safe system with reasonable win potential.  Test it a few times and see what you think.

Play as above except for 1 change.  When a dozen repeats, bet on the same 2 dozens you just bet on.  continue to bet on them as long as the repeat dozens repeats.  If the other dozen hits, you will have a bet on 2 new dozens.

I have an excellent bet method.  Play each dozen separately with a progression but when we are at a new high we start over on all the dozens.

We are going to use a way of keeping track of our bets with what is called the Penthouse method.  In  this method, we do the following:

One the first bet we write a single 1 which is our bet

1

If we win our line is over and we start with another 1.  If we lose, our next bet is 1

1  1

If we win, we cross off both 1's and start with a single 1 again.  If we lose, our next bet is 1

1  1  1

If we win, we cross off all three 1's and start with a single 1 again.  If we lose, our next bet is 2

1  1  1  2

Every time we win, we cross off our last bet and the 2 numbers to the left of it.

Whenever we lose 3 times at a level, we go to the next level.

Eventually, our line may look like this  1 X  X  1  X  1  X  X  X  X  2  2  X  X  X  2  X  X  3  X  3

In the above case if we had won on our 2nd 3, we would have crossed it off and the 3 and 2 to the left of it and our next bet would have been the 3rd 2.

If we win on every 3rd bet, we will stay even, but if we were to win on the 1st 2 unit bet, we would cross off the 2 and the two 1's to the left of it giving us a win of 2 units because we won 4 units with our hit on a 2 unit bet, but we only crossed off  two 1 unit losses.

This is a very safe bet method for the dozens.  Give each dozen it's own bet line.  Anytime we have a hit that results in a new high, we start over on all three dozens.

To make it more aggressive, we can only lose 2 at each level before going to the next higher bet.

To make it more safer, we can go to 4 or 5 losses at each level before advancing to the next level.

Suit yourself.

As with all bet methods, there is an exact sequence from hell, but with the tracking and mixed bets in this system, it should be very, very rare to get too deep in the hole.

It can happen, so have a realistic stop loss.

I don't mean to assume you don't know anything about roulette Tom, I'm just being very explicit in case someone reads this and isn't as familiar with the concepts as we are.

If anyone has a question, just ask.

Oh, by the way, I've tested this to +50 units 5 times now with no losses and so far no more than 50 units in the hole.

It can be a grind sometime, but that's required for a safe system.  It keeps our bankroll requirements smaller.

I still recommend a 200 unit bankroll and stop loss for this system.

Once you understand it, it's easy to play.  The hardest thing is keeping track of the 3 bet lines, one for each dozen, but that's easy, just takes pen and paper.

Good Luck,

G

[GLC]

Another 50 units won and never in the hole.

Where's the losing sequence?

I'm looking for it.

G

[buffalowizard]

Hi GLC,

Really interested in this method, thanks...you say you now bet after a repeating dozen. In your first post, the 2's here were no bets. Would you now bet on them - (Dozens 2+3)?

2
1
3  No bet
2  No bet
2  Bet 2 and 3
2  Bet 2 and 3

Like this?

Many thanks

BW

[Tomla021]

il try this in a zumma tester next week

[GLC]

Hi GLC,

Really interested in this method, thanks...you say you now bet after a repeating dozen. In your first post, the 2's here were no bets. Would you now bet on them - (Dozens 2+3)?

2
1
3  No bet
2  No bet
2  Bet 2 and 3
2  Bet 2 and 3

Like this?

Many thanks

BW

Sorry if I confused you.  I do not bet in the above circumstance.  I'm not saying that it's the only way to play it, but I'm having pretty good luck with not betting repeats to continue unless I was betting when the 1st repeat happened.

What I changed was instead of betting the repeating dozen and the other last hit dozen, I continue to bet the 2 dozens I was betting when I got the repeat.

I don't know that this is all that critical either.

The main part of the bet is betting the last 2 dozens that haven't hit twice and waiting for a dozen to hit twice in the last 3 spins before betting.  This way we aren't losing when we're getting 1 2 3 1 2 3 etc...

Early stages of testing, but looks very stable so far.  Using the penthouse progression for each dozen has definitely added an element of stability to the system.  It does win at a slower pace sometimes, but it also doesn't have a lot of nasty drawdowns.  Yet.

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[buffalowizard]

Thanks for the reply mate, all understood now,

I guess the repeat situation is one of personal preference, but like you said, the important part is the progression and initial bet selection of the dozens.

Keep up the good work

BW

[GLC]

Thanks for the reply mate, all understood now,

I guess the repeat situation is one of personal preference, but like you said, the important part is the progression and initial bet selection of the dozens.

Keep up the good work

BW

BW,

One other thing I do is when I am playing a repeat I drop down to only 1 unit on each of the dozens.

Sometimes, I get a repeat and I'm playing 1 unit on the repeat dozen, but I may be playing 3 units on the other dozen which means every time I get a repeat, I lose a unit.

Also, if I am betting 2 on a dozen and 4 on the second dozen, if the 2 hits it means it's a draw.  In this case, I don't count the 4 as a lost bet for the progression on that dozen.  This helps to keep the bets from escalating when a dozen is not hitting well.  Of course this applies if I'm betting any time 1 bet is half of the other bet (1 & 3; 2 & 4; 3 & 6; 4 & 8 etc...)

ex:

Doz 1       Doz 2     Doz 3
2                           4          If dozen 1 hits here, I act as if it was a no spin because I won 4 on the                                         
                                        doz 1 bet and lost 4 on the doz 3 bet.

Cheers,

George

[Tomla021]

whats the penthouse progression? i cant find it:)

[GLC]

What's the penthouse progression? I can't find it:)

Tom,

It's 111222333444555666777 etc... every loss move 1 to the right and every win cross off 2 and bet the highest bet for next spin.  Obviously if you win on the 3rd of any level, you just cross off the other two which means that you break even. 
But, if you win on the 1st or 2nd bet in any level, you win 1 or 2 units when you cross off numbers in the lower level.

It's a very slow method and I just got in the hole 20 units and it took me 110 spins to finally get back to even.

My original method for betting this system is to bet each dozen separately with the following line:
1-1-1-2-3-4-6-9-14-21-31-47.  If I lost this line, I took the 140 unit loss and started over at 1.  It does happen, but not too often unless you're very unlucky.

When playing this way, I either only bet 1 & 1 when betting for repeats or I don't bet them at all.  I've considered betting 1 unit on the dozen that is repeating.  If I hit on the 1st spin, I can't lose after that.

As you can see, this is still a work in progress.

Finally, sometimes the hit rate is so good that I reach 20 or so without every betting more than 1 unit.  I've thought about testing it with a flat bet.  As we all know, if it wins with a flat bet, it should win with most progressions, and vice versa.

The right aggressiveness level on the progression is the hard thing to decide.

The other option is to go back to betting the same amount on both dozens instead of treating all 3 separately.  This is much easier to keep track of.

Help me sort out all this stuff, guys.

George

[Tomla021]

love your stuff--thanks