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Random to beat Random ?

Started by Twisteruk, Jan 21, 11:05 AM 2011

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superman

QuoteThis gets an upgrade to Full Systems

I think a system would be mechanical, if I asked you what you played and when, currently you can't answer that directly as your choices are random, if you make it a system ppl will ask where do you put your first set of bets? and if you lose the first bet then where do you put the next bets, the reply can't be random for it to be a system.

Its a random system, but everyone will get different results even on the same table!
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Twisteruk

Quote from: superman on Jan 26, 05:00 AM 2011


if I asked you what you played and when, currently you can't answer that directly as your choices are random, if you make it a system people will ask where do you put your first set of bets? and if you lose the first bet then where do you put the next bets, the reply can't be random for it to be a system.




I can answer directly !

It doesn't matter. You put your bets anywhere you like  :)

As long as each Dozen and Column is covered, and the Zero too if you so choose
And that's all you do every Spin


Yessssss I know what your point is. And yep different people will get different results, even, as you say, at the same table.


This System is outperforming anything I've ever tried before.


Its Random  :)
Its Set In Stone =)

Twisteruk

First Session of the day


+296 Units

0 Losses


Highest Level 5

All Dozens and Columns covered. Zero covered at Random too.


Running Total +3879 Units

Its Set In Stone =)

esoito

Be nice if there was a bot for it for a live wheel.

Any thoughts on that , Twister?




Twisteruk

Quote from: esoito on Jan 26, 07:07 AM 2011
Be nice if there was a bot for it for a live wheel.

Any thoughts on that , Twister?





Yeah would be nice !

Maybe though the ppl that use Bots may think this too slow ? Some prefer a faster RNG turnover

Its Set In Stone =)

superman

QuoteBe nice if there was a bot for it for a live wheel

Can do, but it would need to know a lot of details, I have a bot for dublinbet that could be setup for this random method, need a few answers first, as there are 24 corners, I think, do you use all 24 or just the main 12 + 0,1,2,3 - main 12 being 1,2,4,5 - 2,3,5,6 - 7,8,10,11 and so on, which misses out overlap corners like 4,5,7,8 and so on.

QuoteMaybe though the people that use Bots may think this too slow

If it takes an hour to make 50 units or 10 minutes to make 50 units, it's still 50 units. Us bot makers do like a bit of speed though, the speed is mainly so we can see a method fall flat in it's t1ts within minutes rather than hours, Paul if you could examine where you place your bets it may help. As I said earlier in the thread, I did it on playtech AND betvoyager randomly selecting from the main corners, it collapsed.

I know your playing live table, is it dealer or airball?
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Twisteruk

Quote from: superman on Jan 26, 07:44 AM 2011
Can do, but it would need to know a lot of details, I have a bot for dublinbet that could be setup for this random method, need a few answers first, as there are 24 corners, I think, do you use all 24 or just the main 12 + 0,1,2,3 - main 12 being 1,2,4,5 - 2,3,5,6 - 7,8,10,11 and so on, which misses out overlap corners like 4,5,7,8 and so on.

If it takes an hour to make 50 units or 10 minutes to make 50 units, it's still 50 units. Us bot makers do like a bit of speed though, the speed is mainly so we can see a method fall flat in it's t1ts within minutes rather than hours, Paul if you could examine where you place your bets it may help. As I said earlier in the thread, I did it on playtech AND betvoyager randomly selecting from the main corners, it collapsed.

I know your playing live table, is it dealer or airball?


Hi Superman, thanks for your interest  :)

As for the coners I overlap all the time. I break up the dozens nearly every bet. After a win I ALWAYS use different corners. There is no combination of 4 that I do not use. Although I accept I might use some more than others, but that's Random too.

The only thing that stays constant is the coverage of all Dozens and Columns. Not forgeting Zero at Random too


An example would be,

0 1 2 3, 4 5 7 8, 11 12 14 15, 22 23 25 26, 28 29 31 32

2 3 5 6, 10 11 13 14, 16 17 19 20, 22 23 25 26, 32 33 35 36



Yes its Real Wheel and its Airball. Can be Dealer but that's too slow I find.




Does that help  ?


Its Set In Stone =)

Twisteruk

Second Session of the day


+210 Units

0 Losses


Highest Level 5

All Dozens and Columns covered. Zero covered at Random too.


Running Total +4089 Units
Its Set In Stone =)

Kattila

All corners groups


Group/Numbers

1.    1,2,4,5
2.    2,3,5,6
3.    4,5,7,8
4.    5,6,8,9
5.    7,8,10,11
6.    8,9,11,12
7.    10,11,13,14
8.    11,12,14,15
9.    13,14,16,17
10.  14,15,17,18
11.  16,17,19,20
12.  17,18,20,21
13.  19,20,22,23
14.  20,21,23,24
15.  22,23,25,26
16.  23,24,26,27
17.  25,26,28,29
18.  26,27,29,30
19.  28,29,31,32
20.  29,30,32,33
21.  31,32,34,35
22.  32,33,35,36
23.  34/35, 1/2 ( splits *corner*)
24.  35/36, 2/3 (splits * corner *)
25.   0,1,2,3

Numbers belong to groups:
NR.  /Groups

0       25
1       1,23,25
2       1,2,23,24,25
3       2,24,25
4       1,3
5       1,2,3,4
6       2,4
7       3,5
8       3,4,5,6
9       4,6
10     5,7
11     5,6,7,8
12     6,8
13     7,9
14     7,8,9,10
15     8,10
16     9,11
17     9,10,11,12
18     10,12
19     11,13
20     11,12,13,14
21     12,14
22     13,15
23     13,14,15,16
24     14,16
25     15,17
26     15,16,17,18
27     16,18
28     17,19
29     17,18,19,20
30     18,20
31     19,21
32     19,20,21,22
33     20,22
34     21,23
35     21,22,23,24
36     22,24


cheers

Twisteruk

Its Set In Stone =)

superman

QuoteDoes that help  ?

Yes

QuoteThere is no combination of 4 that I do not use

Thought you had changed to 5?
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Twisteruk

Quote from: superman on Jan 26, 11:24 AM 2011
Yes

Thought you had changed to 5?

I have. 5 lots of 4 corners making 20 numbers  :)
Its Set In Stone =)

superman

Thanks, progression ? grand marty, X2+1 every increase/loss?
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Twisteruk

Yep Grand Marti, Reset on a win  :)
Its Set In Stone =)

Twisteruk

Third Session of the day

Had a stonkingly long Session. Tried to make it break, no luck yet LoL


+404 Units

0 Losses


Highest Level 5 (Yes, never went above level 5 !!)


All Dozens and Columns covered. Zero covered at Random too.



Running Total +4493 Units
Its Set In Stone =)

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