WBG groups

[Kattila]

Test   24    ( 1A,  flat bet the last to repeat)

With wait trigger after 3 L s



24  b
30  a
35  c
17  b
35  c
15  a
24  b
2    b  trigger
10  b  w  +24
9    a  l1  +12
3    c  l2    0
17  b  l3  -12   wait trigger
23  b  tr.
3    c  l1  -24
3    c  w   0
0        l1  -12   wait  tr.
28  b
11  a
7    b
30  a
26  c
8    a
11  a  trigger
32  a  w  +12
31  a  w  +36
12  c  l1  +24
9    a  l2  +12
28  b  l3    0   wait  tr.
18  b  tr.
26  c  l1  -12
22  a  l2  -24
18  b  l3  -36   wait  tr.
21  b  tr.
9    a  l1  -48
25  b  l2  -60
8    a  l3  -72   wait  tr.
35  c
24  b
35  c
17  b
31  a
31  a  tr.
24  b  l1  -84
2    b  w  -60
12  c  l1  -72
6    c  w  -48
24  b  l1  -60
34  c  l2  -72
35  c  w  -48
13  c  w  -24
9    a  l1  -36
24  b  l2  -48
27  c  l3  -60  wait  tr
6    c  tr.
5    b  l1  -72
5    b  w  -48
3    c  l1  -24
6    c  w    0
1    c  w +24
13  c  w  +48
13  c  w  +72
8    a  l1  +60
32  a  w +84
33  c  l1  +72
13  c  w  +96
16  c  w  +120
16  c  w  +144
25  b  l1  +132
10  b  w  +156
15  a  l1  +144
7    c  l2  +132
31  a  l3  +120   wait tr.
6    c
32  a
33  c
15  a
28  b
15  a
29  b
29  b  tr.
32  a  l1  +108
29  b  l2  +96
15  a  l3  +84  wait  tr.
5    b
13  c
5    b
24  b  tr.
1    c  l1  +72
4    a  l2  +60
20  c  l3  +48  wait  tr.
31  a
3    c
9    a
32  a  tr.
15  a  w  +72
15  a  w  +96
27  c  l1  +84
7    b  l2  +72
9    a  l3  +60  wait  tr.
8    a  tr.
6    c  l1  +48
33  c  w  +72
1    c  w  +96
0        l1 +84   wait tr.
3    c
33  c  tr.
0        l1  +72  wait  tr.
6    c
11  a
25  b
21  b  tr.
26  c  l1  +60
23  b  l2  +48
29  b  w  +72
6    c  l1  +60
16  c  w  +84
34  c  w  +108
16  c  w  +132
0        l1  wait tr.
34  c
3    c  tr.
34  c  w  +156
22  a  l1 +144
23  b  l2  +132
15  a  l3  +120
4    a    tr.
22  a  w  +144
32  a  w  +168
4    a  w  +192
29  b  l1  +180
1    c  l2  +168
20  c  w  +192
7    c  w  +216
27  c  w  +240       132 spins

End test 24

132 spins = +240 w

Max.  down -84
Max.  up      +240

[Kattila]

Test   25    ( 1A,  flat bet the last to repeat)   

With wait trigger after 3 L s




9    a
20  c
22  a
27  c
16  c  trigger
9    a  l1  -12
31  a  w  +12
23  b  l1    0
16  c  l2  -12
27  c  w  +12
36  a  l1   0
36  a  w  +24
6    c  l1  +12
1    c  w  +36
1    c  w  +60
10  b  l1  +48
20  c  l2  +36
24  b  l3  +24  wait trigger
30  a
2    b 
2    b  l1  +12
18  b  w  +36
19  a  l1  +24
9    a  w  +48
2    b  l1  +36
1    c  l2  +24
33  c  w  +48
33  c  w  +72
0        l1   wait tr.
14  a
6    c
15  a
30  a  tr.
5    b  l1  +60
1    c  l2  +48
33  c  w  +72
15  a  l1  +60
34  c  l2  +48
35  c  w  +72
30  a l1  +60
1    c  l2  +48
26  c  w  +72
18  b  l1  +60
20  c  l2  +48
5    b  l3  +36  wait  tr.
3    c
0    -
35  c
33  c     tr
9    a  l1  +24
33  c  l2  +12
31  a  l3    0  wait  tr.
13  c
29  b
33  c
23  b
21  b    tr.
34  c  l1  -12
0       l2  -24   wait  tr.
5    b
16  c
30  a
32  a     tr.
6    c  l1  -36
0       l2  -48   wait  tr.
29  b
8    a
15  a     tr.
21  b  l1  -60
14  a  l2  -72
15  a  w  -48
23  b  l1  -60
7    b  w  -36
28  b  w  -12
4    a  l1  -24
34  c  l2  -36
28  b  l3  -48  wait  tr.
20  c
11  a
10  b
20  c
16  c   tr.
2    b  l1  -60
2    b  w  -36
24  b  w  -12
31  a  l1  -24
7    c  l2  -36
4    a  l3  -48  wait tr.
13  c
33  c    tr.
18  b  l1  -60
6    c  l2  -72
19  a  l3  -84  wait tr.
6    c
0    -
9    a
8    a     tr.
25  b  l1  -96
10  b  w  -72
1    c  l1  -84
33  c  w  -60
8    a  l1  -72
22  a  w  -48
24  b  l1  -60
21  b  w  -36
13  c  l1  -48
24  b  l2  -60
13  c  l3  -72  wait  trigger
11  a
33  c
4    a
0    -
22  a
13  c
24  b
29  b     tr.
28  b  w  -48
35  c  l1  -60
16  c  w  -36
15  a  l1  -48
12  c  l2  -60
33  c  w  -36
23  b  l1 -48
21  b  w  -24
7    b  w    0             126  spins
26  c   l1 -12
14  a  l2  -24
7    c  l3  -36  wait tr.
1    c  trigger
26  c  w  -12
29  b  l1  -24
31  a  l2  -36
24  b  l3  -48
29  b   tr.
23  b  w  -24
15  a  l1  -36
1    c  l2  -48
15  a  l3  -60  wait  trigger
24  b
31  a
12  c
12  c    tr.
20  c  w  -36
34  c  w  -12
15  a  l1  -24
19  a  w    0
4    a  w  +24            148  spins

End  test 25

148 spins = +24 w
At 126  spins  was  0 , break even

Max. down   -96
Max. up       +72 ( around spin 50)

Final  up  +24
Hard session , but still up.

[Kattila]

 Tested until now:

Kattila

2428 spins
25 sessions
2 lost sessions ( at -120, stop-loss)
23 sessions win    +4032


Ewarwoowar

720  spins
4 sessions, win all , total  +958


TOTAL( until now )

3148  spins
29  sessions ( some short, some large)
2 sessions lost
27  sessions win

Total  win  + 4990  at 1euro          per number
                + 998    at 0,20 E/cent  per number


Maybe 3000 spins it is not enough  ?, so ...
Anyone with RX could test this method ?

Thanks.

[Fripper]

Kattila your results looks amazing with flatbet only. Keep testing! I agree that someone could test this in RX. Maybe Victor wants to, ask him.

[Kattila]

 I FORGOT TO POST THE 3 GROUPS FOR AMERICAN WHEEL

same rules, at 0  and 00  stop and wait new trigger.

American wheel

A.   28,9,30,11,15,3,24,36,19,31,18,6
B.   11,7,20,32,13,1,27,10,21,33,16,4
C.   17,5,22,34,25,29,12,8,23,35,14,2

[buffalowizard]

Hi all,

Wiesbaden 1st July 2010

WLLLLWWLLLLWLLWLLLWLLWLLLWLLLWLWLLLWLWLWWWLLLWWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLWWWWLLWLWLWLLWWLLWLLWWWLLLLWLWWWWLLLLLLLWLLWLLL

Approx 125 spins.

Wait 3LLL's for trigger

27 Wins
53 Losses

+12

[ewarwoowar]

ok, couldn't get on the site last night for some reason??
but i did some more testing, fairly mixed results, but came good. once again, very encouraging.

all tests flat betting as per 1A, using dublinbet actuals. stopping at 3 losses, starting betting again after a virtual win.

session 1:
76 spins
end profit -120 uniits, stop loss activated
max up 24 units

session 2:
102 spins
end profit +36 units
max up 108 units
max down 12 units

session 3:
46 spins
end profit -132 units, stop loss activated
max up 12 units

session 4:
124 spins
end profit -144 units, stop loss activated
max up 120 units @ spin 29

session 5:
141 spins
end profit +72 units
max down -48 @ spin 114

session 6:
100 spins
end profit +156 units
max up 168 @ spin 48

session 7:
100 spins
end profit +132 units
max down -36 units @ spin 64

session 8:
47 spins
end profit +204 units
max down n/a

session 9:
30 spins
end profit +216 units
max down - 36 units @ spin 13

will do more testing later today!

[Kattila]

Thanks  for your help  Ewarwoowar . Still good results, remember stop-loss
at -120.   And if you reached  +120 before spin 50 , you could stop(session 4)    

[ewarwoowar]

excellent results.

i tend to stop either exactly at 120 or i let the phase of 3 losses continue to the end, hence the -144.
a win maybe just around the corner.
i started off testing last night and found it so difficult to get a good result.
3 losses in the first 4 games and i was thinking that the bubble had burst. then it all came good again.
how many methods or systems can you expose, flat betting, to 100 spins at a time and get positive results consistently? we all know the answer to that one.

[ewarwoowar]

has the bubble burst, or do we need a new strategy?
20 sessions with 12 of them losing.
method as at 1A, flat betting using dublinbet actuals, stopping at 3 losses waiting for a virtual win trigger before starting betting.

session 1:
33 spins
end profit -132 units - stop loss
max up 36 units

session 2:
210 spins
end profit +48 units
max up 48 units
max down -96

session 3:
83 spins
end profit +144 units
max up 144 units
max down -24 units

session 4:
53 spins
end profit -120 units - stop loss
max up 24 units

session 5:
111 spins
end profit +60 units
max up 84 units
max down -60 units

session 6:
161 spins
end profit +72 units
max up 72 units
max down -96 units

session 7:
32 spins
end profit -144 units - stop loss
max up 24 units

session 8:
102 spins
end profit +96 units
max up 132 units
max down n/a

session 9:
99 spins
end profit -120 units -stop loss
max up 60 units

session 10:
83 spins
end profit +204 units
max down -48 units

session 11:
146 spins
end profit -144 units - stop loss
max up +60 units

session 12:
33 spins
end profit -120 units - stop loss
max up n/a

session 13:
61 spins
end profit -120 units - stop loss
max up 36 units

session 14:
39 spins
end profit -120 units - stop loss
max up n/a

session 15:
76 spins
end profit +204 units
max down n/a

session 16:
116 spins
end profit +60 units
max down -72 units

session 17:
162 spins
end profit -144 units - stop loss
max up 168 units @ spin 49

session 18:
38 spins
end profit -120 units - stop loss
max up 24 units

session 19:
88 spins
end profit -144 units - stop loss
max up 36 units

session 20:
140 spins
end profit -120 units - stop loss
max up 96 units @ spin78

[ewarwoowar]

a quick summary of above is 1866 spins and a loss of 660 units.

[Kattila]

Hi   Ewarwoowar , this is your results  :

You have tested  around 3300 spins ,  33 sessions.
Lost 15 , win 18,  , still up with  +744.  So, not so bad  buddy.

I only lost 2 sessions in 2400 spins, profit   +4032,
but I played  little different, no wait trigger after 3 L s.
you wait trigger AA  BB  CC, this  groups appear a  lot, so maybe
better  not wait trigger.  Keep testing the two ways.

[Kattila]

Example:

A  L1
B  L2
C  L3 wait 3-5 spins only
B
A
C
A  bet now
B  L1
B  win    SEE HERE !
C  L1
A  L2
A  win
C  L1
C  win
B  L1
A  L2
C  L3  wait
A
B
C
B   bet now
C L1
A  L2
A  w     AND  SEE  HERE  !

See   when  no wait the AA, BB, CC like a trigger
this  groups ( AA, BB, CC)  can help us to win  after L1  and L2 .
I will keep testing like that.( and the other way, too)

Best regards

[trebor]

Excellent results testing.

If you decided to give this a real go would it be in a B & M casino. Not a lot of time to click on 12 numbers online without making mistakes.

Trebor

[ewarwoowar]

3 more test sessions.
all as above, flat betting, stop at 3 losses etc etc. using dublinbet actuals.

session 1:
29 spins
end profit +216 units
max down -36 units

session 2:
75 spins
end profit -120 units - stop loss
max up 48 units

session 3
108 spins
end profit +96 units
max down -108 units.