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[Twisteruk]

Okkkk 1st Test

To some it will seem too short a test but I was playing with Real Money and I hit my Target +/-10%

Ok, to start I waited for a VL

Here follows what happened, betting at Ã,£1 Chip stake on each 12 Numbers

VL
5
7 W +24
3 L +12
26 W +36
26 W +60
5 L +48
2 W +72
2 W + 96

Target was +/- 100 Give or take 10%

Target achieved +96 Units 

My Plan is to play 3 Sessions a day

Will continue to Post my Real Results   

[Kattila]

My final oppinion is use Trigger the virtual win, than start to bet,
But don t forget  to play virtual, until you are up +24(+36) Virtual,
than start  real play, see tweaks and also see the last 15  sessions
how i play.
Make your own target to win , and your own stop lose
if you wish.

[Kingspin]

You were just lucky twister.  Try it when the wheel is in a bad mood .

[Kattila]

Kingspin for that situation(bad mood ) we have the virtual play
and the stop lose (see rules, tweaks).
Maybe lucky  but  until now  I win more sessions than lose.
At the end of week, or end of the  month(s), you will  see the correct result,
not with a few tests.

Cheers

[Twisteruk]

You were just lucky twister.  Try it when the wheel is in a bad mood .

Yes, I accept you could be correct 

[Twisteruk]

Okkkk here is my 2nd Real Money Session

VL
3
16 W +24
13 W +48
1 W +72
15 L +60
31 W +84
36 W +108


Target was +/- 100 Give or take 10%


Target Acieved +108 Units  


Yes. Another short session, but that is how it happened. Nothing added, Nothing taken away.

[Twisteruk]

Just FYI Katt my Internet is playing up....... I can only connect using a slow connection so cant play at the moment  Will resume once my service is back up and running 100%

Please keep us updated on your progress !


Cheers 

[Kattila]

Ok, Twisteruk  !
I am not sure what trigger you use and  if you play virtual, so
again remember this is the safer way:

Use Trigger the virtual win(Ex: AA), than start to bet,
But don't forget  to play virtual, until you are up around +24 Virtual,
than start  real play, see tweaks and also see the last 15  sessions
how I play.
Make your own target to win , and your own stop-loss
if you wish.

Cheers

[Twisteruk]

Ok, Twisteruk  !
I am not sure what trigger you use and  if you play virtual, so
again remember this is the safer way:

Use Trigger the virtual win(Ex: AA), than start to bet,
But don't forget  to play virtual, until you are up around +24 Virtual,
than start  real play, see tweaks and also see the last 15  sessions
how I play.
Make your own target to win , and your own stop-loss
if you wish.

Cheers

I have to be honest Katt I dont play it that way

I wait for 3 VL's and then jump in

Thats how I tested your numbers and so far its all good 

I will re read everythin on this thread to see if I need to make tweeks but cant for now as it would take too long with my current crappy connection 

Can I ask, what is your opinion for not playing until +24 V ?
Why +24 ?
I see that as lost Profit
But hey ive not been testing this as long as you !
Hopefully I can continue soon 

Cheers 

[Kattila]

I made a lot of test not only what I have posted.
The first way , after 3LLL wait 3-5 spins than bet,
good results, but not so safe because can cath you a long
LLL...LLL...LLL...LLL... streak. Also can win right away  in a few spins
more than 100 units(you already know that).

You can avoid that long/short   LLL...streaks  with :
The second way , much more safer I already told you above,
also see full final system at page 9/ reply 130.
So my advice to you is play this way ,because you will win much more
session than lose.

Ouote:

*Can I ask, what is your opinion for not playing until +24 V ?
Why +24 ?
I see that as lost Profit *


*what is your opinion for not playing until +24 V ?*

If  enter directly on real play ,you
can cath (after that 3LLL s) a long LLL...LLL...streak

*Why +24 ?*  (or also +36)
Because  in that moment tend to go up.
Because  you have to go with the trend (tendency).
Play virtual until tend to go up (you avoid some  LLL s)

AND also you can enter real play at (only example) around  -150 virtual.
So situation: you are -150 virtual and now go *up* at -100 virtual.
It s time to play real, because tend to go up. Clear ?



*I see that as lost Profit *
Yes but avoid  a lot of LLLs....


I can explain you better, sorry.
Better  follow that way I described at page 9/ reply 130,
and see the last 15 sessions.

Cheers.

[Twisteruk]

Yes that's very clear Katt, thank you 

I will also re read your comments on Page 9 


Cheers !

[Twisteruk]

Katt

Ive re read everything and I agree with your findings. VP until +24 is best.

I looked at all your tests and VP saved you a heap of loss eh ? Cool ! 

When Im able to play again I will playing VB +24 VB -72

Yes you miss some Profit, but you save more on the LLL 's

Hope you continue to post your Real Results Katt !!!


Can I ask ? What Casino do you play at ? PM me if you prefer to keep it Private   

Cheers 

[Kingspin]

I tried this method on line at live wheel, it's very hit and miss . Long long sessions needed to play it too.  

Looks good on paper but when you play this method you can lose easily 120 chips straight away........

Why not just wait for a group not to repeat about 5 or 6  times then play a long progression betting the last group to repeat.

[Twisteruk]

Looks good on paper but when you play this method you can lose easily 120 chips straight away........

I think thats why Katt plays VP   

Did you try it that way ?

The 2 times ive played with real money, i didnt play it that way either. But after reading Katt's data with regard to spin data on VP etc, its definately the way to go imo !

[Kattila]

This is  quote from my first post:

2A.

Wait groups without repeats in the last 7-8 spins,
Ex: BCABCBCA... bet now the last to repeat with progression.

Progresion, start from 0,10 cents :

1.   0,10 x 12                   -1,2            +2,4
2.   0,10 x 12                   -2,4            +1,2
3.   0,20 x 12                   -4,8            +2,4
4.   0,30 x 12                   - 8,4           +2,4
5.   0,40 x 12                   -13,2          +1,2
6.   0,60 x 12                   -20,4          +1,2
7.   1 x 12                        -32,4          +3,6
8.   1,40 x 12                   -49,2          +1,2    stop-loss at   -50
9.   2,20 x12                    - 75,6         +3,6    stop-loss at   -75


Quote:

*Looks good on paper but when you play this method you can lose easily 120 chips straight away.....*

Right , also can win easily 120 units straighy away....

AND  if you play first virtual can avoid that lose, of corse when enter for real
still can lose that -72(first stop lose) or -120 (second stop lose), BUT please play
(or test) much more sessions(like me) than  i am sure  you will have another
opinion.