WBG groups

[Kingspin]

I am putting a bankroll up this week to play for real money , win or lose I will post the profits or losses.  Thank you for the system kattila and thanks twister for your tests..

Kattila are you actually playing this system for real and making  real money from this or is just a theoretical  "on paper system".  

Looking at the tests i have seen it looks to me that at times we may be sat for over an hour just tracking and not placing any bets.  Maybe not everyones cup of tea...

[Twisteruk]

I am putting a bankroll up this week to play for real money , win or lose I will post the profits or losses.  Thank you for the system kattila and thanks twister for your tests..

Kattila are you actually playing this system for real and making  real money from this or is just a theoretical  "on paper system".  

Looking at the tests I have seen it looks to me that at times we may be sat for over an hour just tracking and not placing any bets.  Maybe not everyones cup of tea...

**** Please note MY tests are VERY small****

This is due to probs with my connection

I hope to resume soon.

The results I posted were with real money BUT lookin at Katt's Stats I got Lucky.

VP is VITAL for this to work

I have no idea if it will hold up medium term let alone long term

But I will resume with Real Money when Im connected back at a high enough speed (very frustrating !!!)

Please keep us posted with your reults, and my advice is do the VP without doubt


Hope Katt continues to post results too !


Cheers 

[Twisteruk]

Katt

I meant to ask you before but I forgot !

When you list the groups, sometimes you seperate a number with a / instead of a ,
What does this mean ?

Soz if its obvious and I missed it !


Cheers 

[Kattila]

Katt

I meant to ask you before but I forgot !

When you list the groups, sometimes you seperate a number with a / instead of a ,
What does this mean ?

sorry if its obvious and I missed it !


Cheers  

That  / just  separate the 3 little groups each one have 4 numbers, and
if you look  at the roulette wheel  you will see this groups of 4
from the same A(or B, or C) group  are at the same distance one from other.
It  is more to say about that, but maybe another day.

[Kattila]

Kingspin,  as I said  before I  play for real  using  sometimes 0,20
per number, and sometimes 0,50 per number.
If you will play for real please  re-read the rules/tweaks  from page 9/reply 130.
I know sometimes you will have to wait for start the real play, but this is
how this work.  

Now (for not wait  long time) I give to all  this  others three set of groups,
which also  works  good ,like the first set of groups (A,B,C).
So finaly the 12 numbers are not  so important,  important is the distance
between the groups.
Also I attach a Excel file, a tracker for each number for each set of groups.



European wheel

First Groups (already know this one)  ,  0 is  out

A.    32,15,19,4/36,11,30,8/14,31,9,22
B.    21,2,25,17/23,10,5,24/ 18,29,7,28
C.    34,6,27,13/16,33,1,20/12,35,3,26


Second Groups
The number 32 is out( the 32 is the 0 in this case)

A.  15,19,4,21/11,30,8,23/31,9,22,18
B.  2,25,17,34/10,5,24,16/29,7,28,12
C.  6,27,13,36/33,1,20,14/35,3,26,0


Third   Groups(number 15 out =  0)

A.  19,4,21,2/30,8,23,10/9,22,18,29
B.  25,17,34,6/5,24,16,33/7,28,12,35
C.  27,13,36,11/1,20,14,31/3,26,0,32


Fourth groups (number 19 out = 0)

A.  4,21,2,25/8,23,10,5/22,18,29,7
B.  17,34,6,27/24,16,33,1/28,12,35,3
C.  13,36,11,30/20,14,31,9/26,0,32,15

Tracking all this together  , after a while you can *see*
which  tend  to go down, and which tend to go  up .
I mean  if you have to wait long time  for  play real
on  one set of groups(ABC),  for sure  at least one from the
others 3 sets of groups  are Qualyfied for  real play, or will
be soon.

Track all  is easy, choose one is more difficult.
You have more options:

1. Track  and play only the first set , or only one set (any).
2. Track  all sets , than :

Example:

Nr.   GR1  GR2  GR3  GR4
.
.
.
.
12     c       b       b      b     virtual
22     a      a       a      a
18     b      a       a      a virtual  trigger
25     b      b       b      a  +24    real trigger 
9       a      a       a      c   +12
13     c       c       c       c  +36  also this can be real trigg.

See group 4 is qualyfied for real play,
because if you play virtual , are + 24(or +36) virtual
start real play.
I others words , if  after short/long series like Ex: abbcbacbccbabcaabc
you see (from any set) triggers AAA,  or BBB,  or CCC  or
AAACC,   BBCCC,  CCCAA,  BBAAA, etc..... Is time to bet for real  that
set of groups.

If you think is to complicated just track/play the first one (Gr 1 )
but with the rules / tweaks from page 9 / reply 130.

Anyway to win have to apply that rules / tweaks.


Cheers.

[Twisteruk]

Thats excellent Katt, thank you

The Four Groups looks interesting for sure !

Im about to Test with Fun Free Chips on a Live Wheel, I will post my Results here for you to see


Cheers 

[Twisteruk]

Example:

Nr.   GR1  GR2  GR3  GR4
.
.
.
.
12     c       b       b      b     virtual
22     a      a       a      a
18     b      a       a      a virtual  trigger
25     b      b       b      a  +24    real trigger  
9       a      a       a      c   +12
13     c       c       c       c  +36   also this can be real trigg.



How Is This a Trigger ? You would not know to bet on Group 4 c UNTIL No13 hit ? Would you not still be betting Group 4 a ? Can you clarifie please Katt, thanks ?


See group 4 is qualyfied for real play,
because if you play virtual , are + 24(or +36) virtual
start real play.
I others words , if  after short/long series like Ex: abbcbacbccbabcaabc
you see (from any set) triggers AAA,  or BBB,  or CCC  or
AAACC,   BBCCC,  CCCAA,  BBAAA, etc..... Is time to bet for real  that
set of groups.

If you think is to complicated just track/play the first one (Gr 1 )
but with the rules / tweaks from page 9 / reply 130.

Anyway to win have to apply that rules / tweaks.


Cheers.

[Kattila]

1.   aaa  trigger, bet now
2.   also can wait  aaacc trigger, than bet


a
a  virtual trigger,bet virtual
a  +24,  real trigger , bet  real now


or

a
a  virtual trigger
a  +24 still virtual
c   +12
c   +36  Trigger, bet real

i told you +24  or +36 virtual than bet

[Twisteruk]

Just played for an hour or two but never got a Trigger, was getting numbers like these.....

9
7
26
17
36
19
24
32
28
17
25
32
10

and it went on like that !

That is correct yes, no Triggers ?


Will play again later or 2morrow !


Cheers 

[Kingspin]

Triggers don't mean any thing to the wheel twister.

When the ball is spinning and tumbling like a maniak down to the 37 numbers triggers are the nothing ,  all triggers do is cost you betting chances.  You are introducing time delay that's all.

Personally i like betting every spin , the methods with all the waiting do absolutely nothing to increase your chances of a hit.

[Twisteruk]

In some respects I agree with you, but not in this case

Katt now has 4 Groups of numbers

2 hits in One Group (AA BB CC) are a VT and followed by a 3rd hit (AAA BBB CCC) is RP

That's how I understand it anyway, is correct Katt ?  

[Kattila]

Just played for an hour or two but never got a Trigger, was getting numbers like these.....

9
7
26
17
36
19
24
32
28
17
25
32
10

and it went on like that !

That is correct yes, no Triggers ?


Will play again later or 2morrow !


Cheers 

9    a  a  a  c
7    b  b  b  a
26  c   c  c  c
17  b  b  b  b
36  a  c   c  c
19  a  a  a  0
24  b  b  b  b
32  a  0  c   c
28  b  b  b  b
17  b  b  b  b
25  b  b  b  a  you have triggers here bbb on 3 groups
32  a  0  c   c   start bet on any  from that 3 groups
10  b  b  a  a

b
b   virtual trigger
b   +24 virtual ,  +24 is real play  trigger, bet now

Depending what numbers comes after this  you could
lose and stop at -72,  or win your target.

[Kattila]

In some respects I agree with you, but not in this case

Katt now has 4 Groups of numbers

2 hits in One Group (AA BB CC) are a VT and followed by a 3rd hit (AAA BBB CCC) is RP

That's how I understand it anyway, is correct Katt ?  

Correct, and from that moment you have to follow the system rules/tweaks.

Also this triggers are valid if you choose to wait trigger +36.

BBAAA, CCBBB,  AAABB, CCCAA...etc.. Why?

Ex:

b
b  virtual trigger
a  -12
a  +12
a  +36   trigger for real play

And

c
c  virtual trigger
c  +24 virtual
a  +12
a  +36  trigger for real play



So,  Triggers :

1.

+24 (Ex: AAA) and  +36 (EX: BBAAA,  CCCBB) are triggers   for real play
because  the bankroll  TEND to go up after a  short or long  losing streak.


2.

When you play virtual and  you are losing virtual,
but now  the bankroll tend to go up (Ex. from -120 to -72) is time
to bet for real .
ABCACBCAACBBCACCACBACBBACAAABBB...bet now

[Kattila]

Triggers don't mean any thing to the wheel twister.

When the ball is spinning and tumbling like a maniak down to the 37 numbers triggers are the nothing ,  all triggers do is cost you betting chances.  You are introducing time delay that's all.

Personally I like betting every spin , the methods with all the waiting do absolutely nothing to increase your chances of a hit.

Talking about this method you are
Wrong , because waiting virtual the triggers you avoid  a lot of losses,
of course after the trigger  still can lose, for that one we have stop lose.
If  you bet every spin  for sure will lose more than win in this system.

What I am betting  is an event  that happening all the time,
it is about  this one:

If you look where land the ball after each last  number spun,
you will notice that will hit sometimes at 30 degrees from the last number,
sometimes at 45 degrees from the last number...and so on....any degree/angle
and can be left side  or right  side from that last  number.
Sometimes  angles  will appear in streaks,this is what i  *hunt*    Example:

Nr

32 
36  around 120  degrees from 32
4    around 90 degrees from 36
9    around 120 degres from 4
31  neighbors
8    around  90 degrees from 31

This is an example of one winning streak AAAAAA when this
angles  hit.
This is why i choose that groups at an certain distance
one from others.

This is my way to see the roulette  game.(not the only one).

Cheers.

[Twisteruk]

9    a  a  a  c
7    b  b  b  a
26  c   c  c  c
17  b  b  b  b
36  a  c   c  c
19  a  a  a  0
24  b  b  b  b
32  a  0  c   c
28  b  b  b  b
17  b  b  b  b
25  b  b  b  a  you have triggers here bbb on 3 groups
32  a  0  c   c   start bet on any  from that 3 groups
10  b  b  a  a

b
b   virtual trigger
b   +24 virtual ,  +24 is real play  trigger, bet now

Depending what numbers comes after this  you could
lose and stop at -72,  or win your target.

Katt

How would you know which of the 3 Groups to bet on, given that senario ?

What would you of chosen, and why please ?
As I chose not to play with 3 Groups showing.

thanks for your opinion