Catching the Heat EC method

[buffalowizard]

This is something I was messing with today and was getting all excited about. The results speak for themselves.

I was tracking Black and Red but any EC would be ok.

Here's how to play it.

Wait for a run of 3 repeats

B
B
B

Then bet 3 times for a Black to return.

I am using marty for this part, so any win at this level and you're up 1 unit.

If no hit and you get 3 of the opposite

R
R
R

Then wait and retrack for 3 more repeats and then go again same again...

this time in my tests I was using 2,4,8 incurring a -5 loss in this second level.

I didn't get to the third level once in over 2500 spins, but would use 8,16,32.

Now an important part is the zero in all this. If it wasn't covered then I would have got to the third level on one occasion.

It also benefitted a few times to have it covered with a small amount, say a tenth of a unit.

Its really that simple....try it....I will post my results shortly, but I was surprised with how often the hits came in in the first step.

Let me know how you get on

Buffalo

[buffalowizard]

Each session between 80-150 spins:


Session 1      +7
Session 2      +9
Session 3      +10
Session 4      +4
Session 5      +8
Session 6      +2
Session 7      +4
Session 8      -5
Session 9      Level
Session 10    -2
Session 11    +6
Session 12    +9
Session 13    +6
Session 14    +12
Session 15    +5
Session 16    -3
Session 17    Level
Session 18    +15
Session 19    +4
Session 20    -1
Session 21    +13

You may not be winning hundreds of units but that's not the point here...I'm testing it's consistency and so far, so good I hope you agree.

It is also very quick and easy to check through numbers and check this

BW

[buffalowizard]

Just in case, here's a quick example...

13
31
33  3 blacks so bet for another black within next 3 spins
27
29  Win on the second  +1
12
9
1   3 reds
13
15
1   +2   
16
27
26
20   
19
28
36
6   
29
36
13   
8
20 3 blacks
8  +3
8
4
32
4
3
36   
1
7  +4
4
33
28
25
20 +5

BW

[kawa4711]

 :thumbsup:buffalowizzard,
I ve made a short test with my real spins of the last 3 days ( Onlinecasino ) with RED /BLACK.
Did very good on High Low it wasn t as good as R/B, there were 2 times bursting the progression H-H-H play... L-L-L. ( loose 1-2-4)

So I thought perhaps it would work with a D`Alembert progression (will produce slower winnings, but will not go as high as a Marty), but one should have a stoploss.
Perhaps there would be another progression which will work better.

Best regards
kawa4711

[buffalowizard]

I want to show you how a tough session looks, because I don't want to only cover it in glory, but it's interesting how it keeps pushing out of the muck, even when a loss hits you.

By the way, when a zero hits during a betting sequence, I have kept the units the same, as my maths can't work out if it would be a profit or loss. My thinking is it would even out over time.

10   
22
17
16
5
27  loss
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16   
33
23
13
29   
23
6
25
1
17
31
24
5
33 Win on 2nd step -5
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3
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1
30
29
9   
2
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15
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10
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32
21
25
15
25 -4
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25
23 -3
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21
7
34 -2
28
4   
10
33 -1
32
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12
4
26   
16 0
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35
4
1
23   
22 +1
31
11
1
27   
5
4
16 +2   
21
26
29
2   
21
0  win on zero
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19
13
26
7
12
33
27
31
2
8
34   
32
7  loss
1
8
2
20
31  -3
8
22
23
36   
27
12 -2
15
32
3
15
1
36
6
28
31
14   
35  -1
15
0
27
13
20
0
32
4
32
13
29
3
9
19
6
1   0
19   
12
20
31
16
26
6
17
1
19
0  win on zero
20
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23
12
21
34 +1
6
18
29
21
11
23
22
6   
13
36
2  +2
25
35
11   
11
30 loss
23
14
2   
35
24
26 -3
18
28
11
33
18
20 -2
31   
13
4
22 -1
30
2
1
2
15
15
35 0   
8
29
10
32
2  +1
28
15
35
5
7
31 +2   
33
30
11   
33
5
35
13
21
24
1
26
34
30
19
9   +3

[ADulay]

I just looked at 10 randomly selected shoes of mine to make a quick check on this idea.   It looked pretty good but I would like to add a slight modification.

If you've just had a Red-Red-Red (or whatever EC you're playing) come up and you hit on the first wager, continue to flat bet it until it loses and then go back to the system play.

You'd hate to lose out on a run of 14 EC bets by only playing the first one.

Thanks for the idea with a slight change!

AD

[buffalowizard]

:thumbsup:buffalowizzard,
I ve made a short test with my real spins of the last 3 days ( Onlinecasino ) with RED /BLACK.
Did very good on High Low it wasn t as good as R/B, there were 2 times bursting the progression H-H-H play... L-L-L. ( lose 1-2-4)

So I thought perhaps it would work with a D`Alembert progression (will produce slower winnings, but will not go as high as a Marty), but one should have a stoploss.
Perhaps there would be another progression which will work better.

Best regards
kawa4711

Hi kawa,

Thanks for looking at it. Yes, I would say just over half of those 21 sessions had a loss on the first step, so I progressed to 2,4,8 for the next stage and took the -5 loss..

The thing with this is, that you've got to expect the odd 1,2,4 loss, in fact its quite likely. It's that quite often, the wins eliminate this small loss, so it bodes well.

Anyway, I'm all for a change in progression, it's all open mate.

BW

[buffalowizard]

I just looked at 10 randomly selected shoes of mine to make a quick check on this idea.   It looked pretty good but I would like to add a slight modification.

If you've just had a Red-Red-Red (or whatever EC you're playing) come up and you hit on the first wager, continue to flat bet it until it loses and then go back to the system play.

You'd hate to lose out on a run of 14 EC bets by only playing the first one.

Thanks for the idea with a slight change!

AD

Yeah that's a real good idea Adulay, riding the streak . Definately something worth incorporating into this.

Thanks, hope you have luck!

BW

[buffalowizard]

Thought I would run it through some numbers offered to me by a member:

Again, I'll play Black and Red

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 24
 26
7  
12  
1  
23     +1  
18  
 20
1  
 26
34  
5  
25  
 15
 4
 26    1st step loss
1  
18  
 22
 22
 8
23  
1  
36     2nd step loss
36  
5  
30  
30     -12
 8
25  
25  
 15
16      -11
19  
30  
 15
 6
30  
3  
 24
 28
21  
18  
5  
21      -10
 15
 35
5  
14  
 4
 22
36  
25  
 8
14  
19  
16  
5      -9
18  
 6
 4
 11
 20   -8
18  
 6
 17
 17
9  
 29    -7
7  
3  
 31
25  
34  
 13
25  
 35
 20
 11    -6
5  
 24
 26
 2
 24    -5
 8
12  
 24
 24
 20
 20    -4
 4
18  
 31
34  
 31
 28
34  
7  
32  
3       -3
36  
 31
27  
21  
 17
 15
 17
1  
12  
 31     -2
 35
 10
34  
 2
 13
 8
0  
32  
 6      -1
 17
 20
 22
32  
3  
 6       0
36  
 31
 33
 20
16  
32  
 11      +1
 33
21  
34  
 33
 20
32  
36  
 33
3  
32  
 29
 28
34  
 22
 6
32  
34  
27  
 35
14      +2
 29
 6
 17
9  
32  
 15     +3
 10
 24
 8
 33     +4
0  
 31
 33
 22
18  
18  
16      1st level loss
9  
1  
 20
30  
 29
 6
0  
27  
16  
23  
 2
19      -1
 2
16  
 26
 28
1  
7  
32  
 29
23       0
16  
14  
9  
30      +1
34  
 13
5  
 20
34  
 15
30  
 15
1  
 13
1  
 24
21  
14  
 33
32  
 11
 4
 10
30  
9  
 24    +2
 11
 11
19  
30  
 31
 10
25  
21  
 10
7  
12  
1  
19     +3
1  
3  
 2
 8
 35
 26    +4
36  
 26
36  
 28
16  
 26
 2
 29
 10    +5
 22
 29
 6
 20    +6
1  
 33
 8
 28    
 20    +7
 6
 4
16  
1  
36  
 17
 26
30      +8
7  
3  
 2
 31
 31
 22    +9
1  
14  
1  
 13
14      +10
18  
14  
 10
21  
 24
 6
 22
25  
23  
 29     +11
 22
 20
0  
 20
 8
 8
0      win on zero
21  
 33    
 33
27  
19  
32  
 15
36      +12
 15
30  
25  
9  
 24
 26
 15     loss on 1st step
 28
 33
 24
 2      +7
32  
7  
19  
25      +8
21  
18  
27  
 33
1        +9
1  
 31
 2
25  
 26
 28
 13
 4      +10


A hard fought session indeed...including a double loss at the beginning, which I'm hoping is a rarity, but thankfully even this couldn't prevent it ending in the plus again.

You can get dream sessions without a single loss, but it's also more rewarding to come out of a session on top after being knocked about a bit.

BW

[chrisbis]

Nice play BW. like it. 

[buffalowizard]

Cheers Chris!

Hope you find it simple yet effective.

I'm still not sure about the second level of progression because it is quite common to reach that point.

How does the d'alembert progression go anyone?

Thanks

BW

[buffalowizard]

Quick wiesbaden run

Ending +7

Though you see what I mean about the annoying losses which keep putting you back -5

I think 2 losses in a row are rare enough to warrant perhaps a more aggressive progression, it's certainly one to test anyway


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    34
  0   
    25
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    3
    9
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    27
    23
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    7
    14
    12
    18     +1
    32
    16
    25
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    16     +2
  0   
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    21
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    1
    7
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    25
    7
    12
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    36      +3
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    16
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20           +4
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  0   
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    34
  0   
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    9
    36
    3
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    5         +5
29     
    3
-- -- --
    5
    7
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26     
31             loss
    25
    30
17     
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    19
    12
    5
    23       0
    3
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    21
    12
    23
    30      +1
    5
10     
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    16
  0   
    36
    18
10     
29     
    34
    9
6     
20     
    5
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    1
    34
4     
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    16
    32
     36
-- -- --
    23          +2
    30
    1
24     
    36
    5
    1
    9           +3
28     
    5
    36
    36
4     
17     
-- -- --
10               loss
    16
    23
35     
22     
    19
24     
    25
    3
    18
    14        -2
    32
28     
-- -- --
28     
35     
2            -1
    34
    21
    36
    3         0
    3
10     
-- -- --
10     
    16
    18
    19
13     
    19        +1
    1
    12
10     
    14
    36
8     
17     
-- -- --
    12
    23
15     
    3
15     
     19
    5
    27
    18          +2
-- -- --
17     
20     
    36
13     
    7
20     
  0   
    9
    27
    19
-- -- --
35     
    25       +3
    14
    9
     1
    23        +4
20     
    5
    14
    12
    25          +5
-- -- --
    3
4     
11     
    12
29     
    19
33     
    1
-- -- --
    34
35     
    7
   0   
6     
    3
    14
4     
    30
    34
2     
-- -- --
    18
13     
    12
    9
2     
6     
    34
35     
2     
6     
26           +6
35     
-- -- --
    5
15     
33     
29     
24          +7
4     
    19
31     
20     
    1
22     
15     
    32
6     
29     
    5
    9

[buffalowizard]

A different day at wiesbaden  +1

This is one for the real grind-merchants! Hope your liking it

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    18
    16
    14
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24        loss
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    12
    32
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    34
    1
4     
20     
    32
2     
    16
    25
    14
    9      -5
2     
    36
-- -- --
    36
10     
35     
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    32
35         -4
    18
35     
    25
    36
33     
    16
     19
-- -- --
    23
    32      -3
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    16
8     
17     
    7
26     
    34
    14
11     
17     
17     
28       -2
    3
11     
35     
20     
     23
    3
-- -- --
    16      loss
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    27
    25
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    27
13     
    19
    12
    9
    25      -7
    27
    12
4     
29     
    7
35     
8     
22     
20         -6
    3
-- -- --
    32
    30
    25      -5
15     
    32
    30
35     
17     
28     
6          -4
29     
    9
4     
    21
11     
    5
-- -- --
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  0   
    32
35     
    16
11     
11     
    12
    5
    18
    30     -3
33     
10     
24     
29           -2
    32
24     
-- -- --
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    21
8     
    23
    16
24     
    16
31     
    12
2     
    36
  0   
    23
    36
    32
    3       -1
20     
    7
13     
     34
-- -- --
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    16
    34
29     
17     
    3
31     
  0   
4     
10     
    1
13     
35     
    5
    36
11     
    7
22     
     5
11     
10     
10     
    12
    19
31          0
    25
-- -- --
    21
6     
    3
    21
    19
10     
    19      +1
35     
    34
    18
35     
22     
26     
15            +2
    18
22     
    27
26     
10     
22     
    32
    30
-- -- -- 
17             +3
33     
35     
    25
    3
    16
    7          +4
    32
     36
    21
8     
4     
2              loss
    27
2     
15     
    27
  0   
24     
    34
    12
11     
    23
-- -- --
    34
22     
6     
    16
20     
13     
    1
31     
17     
2     
    30
24         -1
24     
22     
17     
15           0
8     
4     
    34
    16
    16
    12     +1
-- -- --
6     

[GLC]

BW,

Nice one.

One of my favorite systems is to wait for 4 in a row and then bet a 5 step marty that it won't go for 5 more of the same color.

I also use a step-up marty progression. 1-2-4-8-16, 2-4-8-16-32, 3-6-12-24-48, 4-8-16-32-64.  If I lose the 1st level, I play the 2nd level until I recover the 31 units lost at the 1st level and then drop back down.  I use each step up to recover the units lost in the previous level.  If I lose at 4-8-16-32-64, I take the loss.  So far it's never happened.  

If you lost from 1st bet 20 in a row it would be 310 units.  It'll never happen, but you can eventually lose.  Although, you will have won something along the way to off-set the -310 units.  

I also play this using a grand martingale which wins at a phenomenal rate.  My thinking is, if it wins with regular marty, it will win more with a grand marty.  The grand will lose and win at the same places as a regular marty so as long as your well under the table limits, I don't see the reason for a regular marty.

I play all three even chances at the same time that way I don't have to wait so long for an opportunity to bet.

I also watch when I finish a bet sequence, because another bet may have been forming and I can immediately begin betting on it.  This is sweet when you have like 4 Reds and then 2 Blacks hit while you were playing on say odd/even and you can start betting for a Red to hit and you got 2 free losses without risking anything.

As you can see with yours, it is sometimes a real grind.  I think I'm going to test mine method with the way you do yours, that is playing for the color to continue or at least hit again in the next 5 spins.  I also like the idea of being able to keep winning as long as the color keeps repeating.
(P.S.  I tried this continuing to bet for longer streaks and didn't have such good luck.)

Thanks for this post.  It has given me 2 or 3 excellent ideas and it looks like the way you play it is an excellent way also.

This is a good reason to always post a new idea no matter how simple it may look because it might just trigger a new thought somewhere you never dreamed of.

Cheers,

George

[moles40]

Cant belive this another system using the martingale.Give it up guys