The Holy Grail! (For Red/Black)

[catalyst]

Have a look here first.

U will need a Tracker.

then learn the system.
Its good.

there is a secret weapon with this system and it was not disclosed by FLATINO. WITHOUT THAT WEAPON, the system will not only shake your confidence, it will shake your bankroll too!

[stormyace]

there is a secret weapon with this system and it was not disclosed by F_LAT_INO. WITHOUT THAT WEAPON, the system will not only shake your confidence, it will shake your bankroll too!

so what is the point of this thread then 

[Hermes]

I tested this system long time ago on Gamlet's forum (now dead) and reported many losses.
Hermes

[Amazin]

i take it that this is another failed system? Is it worth it to carry out further testing?

[GLC]

i take it that this is another failed system? Is it worth it to carry out further testing?

Amazin,


If  by failed you mean that this system doesn't guarantee a win every time you sit down to play it then I'm afraid your correct.


It is a system that you can use when you go to the casino to win a handful of chips more often than you lose.


Of course, that can be said about almost all of the decent systems posted on this forum.


On the other hand, there might be a way to play this system that will "almost" guarantee a win every time you play it and if you limit your losses to 2 or at most 3 in a row, who knows...


As you can see it generated a lot of attention.  That means it showed a lot of promise.  Just couldn't get over the hump, unless Compa knows something about it that the rest of us don't.




Sorry my friend,


GLC

[Maan]

Good clarification GLC. Sometimes it is needed when there is leechers around, trying to just grab something that others worked on for a long time..

Regards!

/M

[GLC]

I didn't intend for my response to Amazin's question to be negative or condescending in any way.  After re-reading it, I can see that parts of it may be taken in that way.  I could have answered his question with, "Yes!"  But I wanted him to know that it's probably not what he's hoping it is.

GLC

[Amazin]

Hey GLC, thanks for your response. I don't see anything offensive, lol

Right now I don't see how this system works but will do some reading before I start firing questions.

I was just curious because if this system is good as it appears to be, then why it is not at top?

[cofi]

Method? Bollocks!

I've been testing it for weeks and I can tell You that this strategy is not "Holy Grail", it's ordinary bullsh*t!!

[Drazen]

Method? Bollocks!

I've been testing it for weeks and I can tell You that this strategy is not "Holy Grail", it's ordinary bullsh*t!!

Your saying is  offensive to me as member of this forum.

First of all your aspect on this is totaly wrong. If you thought you will just come here, take the method (whatever  title is) and go play it without thinking, just hoping you will get rich, you are very wrong. Hilariously wrong actualy...

Second,  you don't know who is person behind the nickname and what knowledge that person has. Some of us do and that makes the difference.
You didn't thought for a second that maybe there is a grail in that, but maybe you can't see it? Actualy maybe is hidden just because of people like you?

I can assure you that on this forum, many grails have been published, but camouflaged for a bit, so only people who deserves them, could actulay recognize them.

Anyway, i wish you best  taking here any method, test it to death and conclude you will get rich with it.

Regards

Drazen

[Tamino]

GLC,

In support of your  2 or 3 losses in a row permit  me to give you my latest take:

Eeven Chances  ------- Stop after 3 losses in a row.

Dozens  and Columns after 2  losses  in a row. The same goes  for  all inside bets like  splits, straight up, ,Quads ( 4 numbers ) streets  or  dbl streets.

HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Nathan Detroit

[cofi]

2 Drazen:

No, my saying was offensive towards this so called >>grail<<. At least to this method which has been presented here.

First of all Your assumption is wrong, I was NOT playing it w/o thinking, i was playing it according to instructions which were written here.

Secondly, if there are some more hidden instructions/tweaks/triiggers of fundamental importance regarding the system, then posting a method here without them is sefish or at least pointless - forum isn't a private property of  "people who deserves them" - for that You can use private posts or even e-mail, so public forum would not be necessary at all.

So, to make myself clear, I was testing this "system" for weeks, and it DOESN'T work at all! At least not without "hidden" parts of the greatest importance. That is true, so in the future You could post a *, or a footnote by the new topic and write down that it's "the holly grail" only for you, "the chosen ones", so the rest of "people like me" - us, mortals, don't have to waste time... or money.

[jarabo002]

I am a bit lost with the system you are talking about: PCWB or Holly Grail for red and blacks?

Sorry for my ignorance .

PCWB with a máximum of two or three losses in a row does work?

[Oudi]

Hello . Here is the Holy Grail for You who Like to play R/B:

Ooohhhhhhh nooooo. Another unintelligent with another method...You say...LMAO.

Well,, properly tested for 3000 spins, never exceeded 4 spins (can we do a Martin here?)

Merry Christmas Y'all!

3.12.21.30.9.18.27.36 = Triggers for RED. Hits after 4 spins Max

6.15.24.33 = Triggers for BLACK. Hits after 4 spins Max

Meanwhile You waiting,, play H/L + 2 Doublestreets for a Dummybet = +2 units..


Cheeers!

Tested with 3 096 278  live spin with limited martingale (1-2-4-8):

Peak: 6 units        / its wierd but it true, it depends on the start of the line
Bottom: - 99 304 units


Won red triggers: 544 221
Lost red triggers:  41 228 /end of martingale

Won black triggers: 206 851
Lost black triggers: 15 451 /end of martingale

Final score: - 99 113 units

True that.

[Ralph]

Tested with 3 096 278  live spin with limited martingale (1-2-4-8):

Peak: 6 units        / its wierd but it true, it depends on the start of the line
Bottom: - 99 304 units


Won red triggers: 544 221
Lost red triggers:  41 228 /end of martingale

Won black triggers: 206 851
Lost black triggers: 15 451 /end of martingale

Final score: - 99 113 units

True that.

You can test any method for 3000000 spins, and do be supprised if you lose about 3% of the wagering amount. We do not win playing 3000000 spins, and most do not even have that time.

If the loss after 3000000  spins is more than 3% it is a strong signal the method is weak, and should be strong just reverse it.

I would like to see a test over so many numbers survive.

I do not think players who win more than they lose lean on a method, which is mechanical, and allways play it, it sounds not possible, the random stream will soon or later kill it.

The winners are lucky to not use it in the wrong time, have ability to stop before it becomes real bad. Adjust the methods all the time. 

A computer run in millions will always end with a loss, it is not so the real game goes.
I seldom do such tests, I have reasons to belive I know the answer witout it.

Long series of numbers we can study, not against our methods, but to see it is no use to do them.

We can learn how numbers can behave, and that nothing should suprise you.

It is done a lot of studies of numbers, and a lot you can learn from that. The problem is allways to find a way to realy make use of it. 

The expected value shows in a long serie, in a short it becomes weaker and the expected can differ much from the real, a condition which must be there if you are winning.

I can not see any use of running larger tests on a methods which we think is a winner, it should be better play it real. 10 Euro is 1000 cent, its a good base for a test, when it is double we can ask, why just pennies and try bigger, and maybe  lose, but nobody knows. There are times when everything works, and times when nothing works, if we can smell it we are on track.