The Holy Grail! (For Red/Black)

[warrior]

Compa mate,
These guys never even seen French roulette let alone play it.
Repeat----There is not ZERO on EC bets---when it spins,
your stakes are staying for the next bet.

SO IGUESS WE SHOULD NEVER PLAY UNLESS THERE IS EN PRISON RIGHT IBOBA?. W.

[F_LAT_INO]

Never EC bets.

[Paja]

Finally back from vacation! It was fun but I missed stubborn old friend roulette from time to time. 

I must admit that i expected more interest/posts from people in this great thread. 

Oh well, I'm still very interested to learn and experiment and my RX and notebook (pen and paper type) are calling.

[Paja]

Totally agree with both of you latest Posts Mate. LoL

Ok mates. So when we bet R/B I assume many of You are aware of that this EC-combination is a Strong Pattern-related Bet also.

So even if the importance of Column 3 is mainly the Issue here, we can and should not, ignore the returning Patterns that frequently surrounds this particular concept we are dealing with.

There are some particular patterns I want You all to be aware of when betting R/B.

These are:
RBR
RR B
RR BB = The Terrible Twos
RRR B
RRRRR
RRR BBB
RRRRRR = Trend 
(And all Bets here reversed of course)

These Patterns are all returning
but unpredictable.(that's why we can't estimate their entry or departure and exploit them effectively)

However, this is not the issue. But to observe these Patterns, get to know them and estimate them in relation to what is  potentially happening with our PrimeBet. And whether to bet BLACK on a RED Trigger and Vice Versa.
Now, it will Still be a "Guess" though. But with enough experience and practice one will develop the timing when to lay down the Bet and not.

The most difficult situations are Trends. Because a Trend can break at any Bet any time. But it can as we all have seen, last "forever". So what we Do? Same thing. Observe the patterns and estimate against the PrimeBet.

that's it for now. Ill get back with more Details asap.

Cheers!

This is very interesting post Compa.

I always thought that there are only 3 types of EC patterns

RBR - zig-zag
RRR - trend (3+ of the same was a definition of trend for me)
RRBB - terrible twos

so RRB is two and a half
RRRB - triplet and a half/single
RRRBBB - (not so) terrible triplets

This is more accurate pattern observing, which i will adopt in the future but one thing confuses me:

Why RRRRRR is a trend and RRRRR isn't?

[furple]

Why are you writing on another forum:
"So when we see any Number in Figure 3 Or 9, bet BLACK. If hit on B on 1st spin, bet RED."

And here:
"3.12.21.30.9.18.27.36 = Triggers for RED. Hits after 4 spins Max"

This is the opposite, which one shall we use?

I tested this with my own tweak. If a trigger comes you bet the opposite colour, if win, wait for a new trigger. But if lose high your bet like this: 1,2,4,8 (martingle). But if the next number also is a lost and is one of your triggers. Stop there and wait for another trigger.
Example:

17 B
18 R Trigger, bet black 1 unit
7 R Lost, 2 unit on black
3 R lost (trigger)  so now you don't continue. You wait for another trigger and continue with the next bet in the progression.
23 R
22 B
11 B
7 R
3 R trigger, bet 4 on black
24 B trigger, bet 1 on red
36 R trigger, bet 1 on Black
21 R (trigger)  so now you don't continue. You wait for another trigger and continue with the next bet in the progression.
5 R
0
30 R trigger, bet 2 unit on black
28 B
31 B
3 R trigger, 1 on black
32 R lost
33 B

Yeah you get the idea.
If you should lose the 8 unit bet. You wait until another trigger and start betting 2,4,8,16 until you are in profit again.
I lost 2 or 3 times the 1,2,4,8 bets. And lost the 2,4,6,8 one time in 899 spins.

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Fripper

Hi Fripper

Is your attachment for the Red/Black system or the Ball_24?

[Fripper]

Hi. It is the red/black system, the ball_24 just is there but I don't use it. I never use those systems who are in there.

The bankroll seems nice now when I look at it, maybe I will give it another test =)

Fripper

[Paja]

For me there are 3 basic bets when dealing with EC.

LD - last decision or follow the last result
OLD - opposite of the last decision
DBL - decision before last or betting on penultimate result

Each one has it strong side and weak spot depending of pattern.

If we simplify:

LD profits on trends, loses on zig-zag, choppy results and survives on terrible twos
OLD profits on zig-zags, loses on trends and survives on terrible twos
DBL profits on trends and zig-zags and loses on terrible twos

Tested on Compa's more complex patterns it looks like this:

                     LD               OLD             DBL
RBR               -2                 +2               +1
RRB                0                  0                 -1
RRBB            +1                -1                -2
RRRB            +1                -1                 0
RRRRR         +4                -4                +3
RRRBBB      +3                -3                 0
RRRRRR      +5                -5                +4

LD  +12 , 5 won patterns, 1 lost pattern, 1 tie
OLD -12, 1 won pattern, 5 lost, 1 tie
DBL  +5, 3 won patterns, 2 lost, 2 tie

Is any of these 3 bets better than other 2?

LD looks best judging by results but we all know that it's not long run winner
DBL is somewhere between two extremes, but is it in any way superior?

[Compa]

Hey Paja. This is an old Myth. That betting either that or this is a source to constant win on the EC:s. Its just a big illusion mate. Its MUCH more complex than this.

The method i have presented previously is the ONLY way (very provocating statement, yes)
to win consistently with RED/BLACK.

I have not managed to connect H/L - E/O to this so far, more than theoretically. Which we dont need here.

Cheers!

[Paja]

Hey Paja. This is an old Myth. That betting either that or this is a source to constant win on the EC:s. Its just a big illusion mate. Its MUCH more complex than this.

The method I have presented previously is the ONLY way (very provocating statement, yes)
to win consistently with RED/BLACK.

I have not managed to connect H/L - E/O to this so far, more than theoretically. Which we don't need here.

Cheers!

I thought as much. Then right timing when to bet, when not to bet and when to bet opposite is key here.

If i understand right observing and betting on patterns of reds and blacks isn't a winning way because everything is anytime possible to happen.

Is it possible then that if we observe wins and losses of certain bet ("primebet') we will not see some patterns at all or more likely will see them so rarely that we can bet against them? 

As for choosing reds and blacks only, they are same as H/L and O/E on basic level. I guess that they act different only by observing them in relation with columns, because of 8:4 relation in 2nd and 3rd column.

[Twisteruk]

Hey Paja. This is an old Myth. That betting either that or this is a source to constant win on the EC:s. Its just a big illusion mate. Its MUCH more complex than this.

The method I have presented previously is the ONLY way (very provocating statement, yes)
to win consistently with RED/BLACK.

I have not managed to connect H/L - E/O to this so far, more than theoretically. Which we don't need here.

Cheers!

thanks Compa !

I've really enjoyed reading this Thread 

I don't understand how this "works", but it does !  

I'm now using this as my method for R/B  

Any progress on H/L or E/O ?

Cheers bud  

[Lulloz]

Hey Compa, this system seems to work on RNG too.

I'm wrong ?

In attach my first test based on real Spins @ RNG roulette.

I have used a fibonacci progression and sometimes I get little scared

Any advice on best progression plan to use ?

Many thanks for posting this jewel.

[Compa]

Hi Lulloz. I only play 1124 progression

Cheers!

[Lulloz]

And when you get a loss you simply take it or you have a way to recover ?

Is a great system, is based on Roberta's key time is true ?

Many thx for you reply.

[Lulloz]

I can reply myself at my last question

With Compa's progression (1 1 2 4) system works very well and don't need fibonacci or other progression type to win !!

Looks very promising, more test needed.

In attach same session with 1124 progression.

[Cristal2000]

I can reply myself at my last question

With Compa's progression (1 1 2 4) system works very well and don't need fibonacci or other progression type to win !!

Looks very promising, more test needed.

In attach same session with 1124 progression.

Lulloz....
you have the RX code for test this system ?

is possible downloaded ?