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Examining the labby progression/money management

Started by superman, Jan 30, 04:09 AM 2011

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superman

Since Frippers' thread "beating roulette with maths" has been going a long time I thought I would code a labby into the bot, I would like you to look at the uploaded file and give me some ideas of ironing out the peaks, theres not many peaks but they are there, do you add more zeros/elements if the progression goes over a certain limit, that sort of thing.

The file was generated while betting on even every spin.
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

superman

So by the lack of response I gather most think money management is irrelevant, well, over the last 3 days I have been playing with the labouche (spelling?) let's call it the labby from here on. Well, I have run it a few ways trying of course to keep the average bet amount down as much as possible, that's the aim here.

First test (all tests performed against EC's) was with zeros and a 1 like this, 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1 after a win remove the first (left) digit after a loss replace the first zero from the left with the progression used on the losing bet then using the 1st and last digits as the calculation for the progression. That worked quite well but not for long, a session would arrive that would push the progression into the early hundreds, up to the mid 100s' 455 for example. Scrap that is felt like martingale figures.

So I decided to run some tests with the old school style

1,2,3,4

on a win cross off the 1st and last figure, after a loss, add the last used progression to the end, also using the 1st and last figures as the progression, also worked well until it hit the fan, it ended up with long rows of numbers so appeared to be "getting away from you" as it were.

I then tried to copy Frippers' method, wether I did it right or wrong I do not know but it too went high up the progression scale, I seem to rememeber, if I read right, in his thread he found that too, he then implemented triggers to try to hopefully counteract it, for example, if chasing even and the last X were odd he would wait until that odd sequence ended before resuming his attack. And looking at some of the bets placed and lowest bankroll, it looks scary.

So lastly, for now anyway, until it crashes atleast, I have morphed the 2, start with the zeros and a 1 if the first few bets go ok then it just runs the normal way, removing the first digit after a win and adding to the first zero on aloss and hopefully finishing the labby without it growing, if it can't finish, bad run against, and there are no zeros left then it adds the past progression to the end and removes from that end on a win too which gets rid of the highest figures first.

The attached file is the last few runs of the bot, the first session was hell but it made it through eventually without going deep into the minus AND the highest bet placed was 34 units, total profit was 183 units in 129 spins, betting every spin.

Total for the whole attack was 291 spins, 351 profit highest progression used 34 never went deep into a minus figure lowest point -147 . More testing will follow, and yes, if it fails badly I'll post it here too.
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

chrisbis

Still vary scary numbers in that "SEA" superman-

[Reveal=SEA WAVE][attachimg=#1][/reveal]

Original high spot
[Reveal=High Progression][attachimg=#2][/reveal]

Two waves, and maybe a shark in there somewhere two?
[Reveal=Shark?][attachimg=#3][/reveal]

Not quite turning it on its head, but scary 'ride' all the same!

aleks06

I don't really get the purpose of your thread Superman. please enlighten me I'd like to help.

cheers

superman

QuoteI don't really get the purpose of your thread Superman

Really just a thread to try and highlight or work with money management using the labby similar to what you and Fripper have been doing, as far as I am concerned the labby is probably the best progression for even chances as it helps keep you in the game much longer, which is inevitably riding out the highs and lows.

The attached file was running RB SAL (thats Red Black, Same As Last) highest progression used 43 chips, total profit 885 units.

Now I haven't attached this morphed mongrel progression to any real EC method yet so am open to opinions on which to use, as we know bet location doesn't make a world of difference but maybe it can be used to fully test the progression, my first tests were just using even as bet location, then this one was SAL.
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

chrisbis

Quote from: superman on Jan 31, 01:13 PM 2011
......................my first tests were just using even as bet location, then this one was SAL.
@superman

With these first tests, I SEE that the progression value goes as high as '41' quite a few times.

Given that ur using a Labby formate here, what does Value 41 actaully represent is terms of a result?

Is it 10, 14,16 levels high?

As in 'so' many same set results coming out of the marquee?

superman

Quotewhat does Value 41 actaully represent is terms of a result?

units, not levels 41 units was the max bet placed, considor it as 6.5 levels of a standard marty
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

aleks06

The SAL results look good  ;)

Do you think you can modify the bots and adjust it to belgian's method ? or is it too complicated ?

superman

QuoteDo you think you can modify the bots and adjust it to belgian's method ? or is it too complicated ?

If you could explain it easily so I understand it properly should be able to.
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

superman

Ok some bad news and some good(so far) just running against 1 ec can lead to a long game so in my opinion without some sort of selection method for ecs' it doesn't appear too good.

I have now set it up to follow the last dozen, attached file has a few runs in it that may amaze some folk

[reveal]L  Prog 1 Cash 29 Peak 30 - 1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1
L  Prog 2 Cash 27 Peak 30 - 1|2|0|0|0|0|0|1
L  Prog 2 Cash 25 Peak 30 - 1|2|2|0|0|0|0|1
L  Prog 2 Cash 23 Peak 30 - 1|2|2|2|0|0|0|1
L  Prog 2 Cash 21 Peak 30 - 1|2|2|2|2|0|0|1
L  Prog 2 Cash 19 Peak 30 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|0|1
L  Prog 2 Cash 17 Peak 30 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1
W  Prog 2 Cash 21 Peak 30 - 2|2|2|2|2|2|1
W  Prog 3 Cash 27 Peak 30 - 2|2|2|2|2|1
L  Prog 3 Cash 24 Peak 30 - 2|2|2|2|2|1|3
L  Prog 5 Cash 19 Peak 30 - 2|2|2|2|2|1|3|5
L  Prog 7 Cash 12 Peak 30 - 2|2|2|2|2|1|3|5|7
L  Prog 9 Cash 3 Peak 30 - 2|2|2|2|2|1|3|5|7|9
L  Prog 11 Cash -8 Peak 30 - 2|2|2|2|2|1|3|5|7|9|11
L  Prog 13 Cash -21 Peak 30 - 2|2|2|2|2|1|3|5|7|9|11|13
W  Prog 15 Cash 9 Peak 30 - 2|2|2|2|2|1|3|5|7|9|11
W  Prog 13 Cash 35 Peak 30 - 2|2|2|2|2|1|3|5|7|9[/reveal]

17 attacks with only 4 wins and it finished the labby
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

superman

OK final post now. Ran it again against a single dozen, SAL, for 1000 spins, file attached.

I should have mentioned in the last post, I am resetting the progression when ahead at any stage, you should see that within the file, as far as I am concerned the labby has good legs so far.

Biggest drawdown was -73 biggest bet placed was only 41 units.

The purpose of this thread was just to see if the labby (mongroled) could sustain many losses ina row and still recover to a new high, it did so far.
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

chrisbis

@superman

That's some rebuild eh!! [reveal=Rebuild Point][attach=#][/reveal]

Reminds me of a film...........mmm.....what's it called now? ?

[reveal=FILM?]CLIFFHANGER[/REVEAL]

Joking aside, One couldn't imagine a situation arising like this, with a Standard Marty Progression!

Its all very thought provoking. Nice work N.  :thumbsup:

superman

QuoteOne couldn't imagine a situation arising like this, with a Standard Marty Progression!

You would be totally skint with a marty against 90% of the sessions tested, heres a fun one I just had

[reveal]L  Prog 1 Cash 712 Peak 713 - 1|0|0|0|0|0|0|1
L  Prog 2 Cash 710 Peak 713 - 1|2|0|0|0|0|0|1
L  Prog 2 Cash 708 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|0|0|0|0|1
L  Prog 2 Cash 706 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|0|0|0|1
L  Prog 2 Cash 704 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|0|0|1
L  Prog 2 Cash 702 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|0|1
L  Prog 2 Cash 700 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1
L  Prog 2 Cash 698 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2
L  Prog 3 Cash 695 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3
L  Prog 4 Cash 691 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4
L  Prog 5 Cash 686 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5
L  Prog 6 Cash 680 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6
L  Prog 7 Cash 673 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7
L  Prog 8 Cash 665 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8
L  Prog 9 Cash 656 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9
W  Prog 10 Cash 676 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8
L  Prog 9 Cash 667 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9
L  Prog 10 Cash 657 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10
W  Prog 11 Cash 679 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9
W  Prog 10 Cash 699 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8
L  Prog 9 Cash 690 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9
L  Prog 10 Cash 680 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10
L  Prog 11 Cash 669 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11
L  Prog 12 Cash 657 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12
L  Prog 13 Cash 644 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13
L  Prog 14 Cash 630 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14
L  Prog 15 Cash 615 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15
W  Prog 16 Cash 647 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14
L  Prog 15 Cash 632 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15
W  Prog 16 Cash 664 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14
W  Prog 15 Cash 694 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13
L  Prog 14 Cash 680 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14
L  Prog 15 Cash 665 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15
L  Prog 16 Cash 649 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16
L  Prog 17 Cash 632 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17
W  Prog 18 Cash 668 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16
W  Prog 17 Cash 702 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15
L  Prog 16 Cash 686 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16
L  Prog 17 Cash 669 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17
W  Prog 18 Cash 705 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16
L  Prog 17 Cash 688 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17
L  Prog 18 Cash 670 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18
L  Prog 19 Cash 651 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19
W  Prog 20 Cash 691 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18
L  Prog 19 Cash 672 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19
W  Prog 20 Cash 712 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18
L  Prog 19 Cash 693 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19
L  Prog 20 Cash 673 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20
L  Prog 21 Cash 652 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21
L  Prog 22 Cash 630 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22
W  Prog 23 Cash 676 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21
L  Prog 22 Cash 654 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22
L  Prog 23 Cash 631 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23
L  Prog 24 Cash 607 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24
L  Prog 25 Cash 582 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25
L  Prog 26 Cash 556 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26
L  Prog 27 Cash 529 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27
L  Prog 28 Cash 501 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28
W  Prog 29 Cash 559 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27
L  Prog 28 Cash 531 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28
L  Prog 29 Cash 502 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29
L  Prog 30 Cash 472 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30
L  Prog 31 Cash 441 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31
L  Prog 32 Cash 409 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32
W  Prog 33 Cash 475 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31
L  Prog 32 Cash 443 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32
L  Prog 33 Cash 410 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33
L  Prog 34 Cash 376 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34
L  Prog 35 Cash 341 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35
L  Prog 36 Cash 305 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36
L  Prog 37 Cash 268 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37
L  Prog 38 Cash 230 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38
L  Prog 39 Cash 191 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39
L  Prog 40 Cash 151 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40
L  Prog 41 Cash 110 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41
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L  Prog 42 Cash 197 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42
W  Prog 43 Cash 283 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41
L  Prog 42 Cash 241 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42
L  Prog 43 Cash 198 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43
L  Prog 44 Cash 154 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44
L  Prog 45 Cash 109 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45
L  Prog 46 Cash 63 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46
W  Prog 47 Cash 157 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45
L  Prog 46 Cash 111 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46
W  Prog 47 Cash 205 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45
L  Prog 46 Cash 159 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46
W  Prog 47 Cash 253 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45
W  Prog 46 Cash 345 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44
W  Prog 45 Cash 435 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43
L  Prog 44 Cash 391 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44
L  Prog 45 Cash 346 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45
L  Prog 46 Cash 300 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46
W  Prog 47 Cash 394 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45
W  Prog 46 Cash 486 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44
L  Prog 45 Cash 441 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45
W  Prog 46 Cash 533 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44
L  Prog 45 Cash 488 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45
L  Prog 46 Cash 442 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46
L  Prog 47 Cash 395 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47
L  Prog 48 Cash 347 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48
L  Prog 49 Cash 298 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49
L  Prog 50 Cash 248 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50
L  Prog 51 Cash 197 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51
L  Prog 52 Cash 145 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52
W  Prog 53 Cash 251 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51
W  Prog 52 Cash 355 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50
L  Prog 51 Cash 304 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51
L  Prog 52 Cash 252 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52
W  Prog 53 Cash 358 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51
W  Prog 52 Cash 462 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50
L  Prog 51 Cash 411 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51
L  Prog 52 Cash 359 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52
L  Prog 53 Cash 306 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53
W  Prog 54 Cash 414 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52
W  Prog 53 Cash 520 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51
L  Prog 52 Cash 468 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52
L  Prog 53 Cash 415 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53
L  Prog 54 Cash 361 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54
L  Prog 55 Cash 306 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54|55
L  Prog 56 Cash 250 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54|55|56
L  Prog 57 Cash 193 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54|55|56|57
L  Prog 58 Cash 135 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54|55|56|57|58
W  Prog 59 Cash 253 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54|55|56|57
W  Prog 58 Cash 369 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54|55|56
W  Prog 57 Cash 483 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54|55
W  Prog 56 Cash 595 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54
W  Prog 55 Cash 705 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53
L  Prog 54 Cash 651 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54
L  Prog 55 Cash 596 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54|55
L  Prog 56 Cash 540 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54|55|56
L  Prog 57 Cash 483 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54|55|56|57
L  Prog 58 Cash 425 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54|55|56|57|58
W  Prog 59 Cash 543 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54|55|56|57
L  Prog 58 Cash 485 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54|55|56|57|58
L  Prog 59 Cash 426 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54|55|56|57|58|59
L  Prog 60 Cash 366 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54|55|56|57|58|59|60
W  Prog 61 Cash 488 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54|55|56|57|58|59
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W  Prog 59 Cash 726 Peak 713 - 1|2|2|2|2|2|2|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19|20|21|22|23|24|25|26|27|28|29|30|31|32|33|34|35|36|37|38|39|40|41|42|43|44|45|46|47|48|49|50|51|52|53|54|55|56|57[/reveal]
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

chrisbis

U don't look 60 mate on the AmsterD picture!! lol
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mmm............for fun U say............ I need have a word in Ur Misses shell 'like, me thinks!!

Fripper

Hi superman

First, thanks for your interest.

Read reply 203 on my thread:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/general-discussion/beating-roulette-with-math/195/

Read also reply 64

There you have the basic.
Ofcourse it's more but you will get the point.

Also I will attach his excel file again. Look through it carefully.

An important thing is that when I have started a new labby and have reached even or profit of 1 unit I reset the labby.

I can assist you on Skype if you have any questions.
All i'm doing is living my life.

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