MATRIX VERTICAL METHOD ONLY

[GLC]

Uh well yes George, but where did you get 14,000,000 sessions from. All I want from this George is about 500 units won to every bank of 80 lost. That's a good tradeoff anyone should be happy with that. At present we don't know the strike because no-ones seen one yet INSIDE A MATRIX. What if random can't do it. Just like it can't do all 37 numbers in 37 spins. We don't know. But we could make a nice stack finding out. Is 5 QUADS a limit for Random. Like 37 in 37 is? If its even 500/1 the games beaten....

Sorry, JL.  You have to take some of what I write with a sense of humor.  The number 14,000,000 was just hyperbole for a good number more units won than possible units lost.  Being from Oklahoma, I always like to interject a little levity in my posts.  I don't mean to undermine the seriousness of this thread.  Just having some fun while explaining to a friend how to play the system.

I'm always trying to see if a martingale will work on a system because it returns the most units won per spin if it doesn't hit too often.  And this is  a pure 4 step martingale for 2 dozens.  I've seen a lot of martingales work quite well for a long period of time just to finally fail completely.

I'm always reminded of Flatino's run using a martingale type bet on the dozens and after winning for years with a system, it finally went bad and took back $112,000 or somewhere in that area.  You can imagine that after winning for years, it's hard to believe you need a stop loss until you've given back a really big chunk.

You're right to warn everybody to test this thing and go into it with their eyes wide open recognizing that after everything is said and done, we are gambling.  We're just trying to shift the odds our way a little. 

I have to say that this looks like it's a winner.  The unknown variable is your previous spins that indicate that 5 quads in a row only happen once in hundreds of sessions.  If that's true, then this is the one.  It's still possible that you have gathered a very lucky series of spins.  Remember, there is always someone who has unbelievable luck out there, and you may be him.

So, let's test until we're all convinced this is a long term winner.  Let's start with small enough units that we can build a substantial bankroll, but let's always be alert to the fact that something totally unexpected can happen at any time.

Cheers,

George

[Johnlegend]

Sorry, JL.  You have to take some of what I write with a sense of humor.  The number 14,000,000 was just hyperbole for a good number more units won than possible units lost.  Being from Oklahoma, I always like to interject a little levity in my posts.  I don't mean to undermine the seriousness of this thread.  Just having some fun while explaining to a friend how to play the system.

I'm always trying to see if a martingale will work on a system because it returns the most units won per spin if it doesn't hit too often.  And this is  a pure 4 step martingale for 2 dozens.  I've seen a lot of martingales work quite well for a long period of time just to finally fail completely.

I'm always reminded of F_LAT_INO's run using a martingale type bet on the dozens and after winning for years with a system, it finally went bad and took back $112,000 or somewhere in that area.  You can imagine that after winning for years, it's hard to believe you need a stop-loss until you've given back a really big chunk.

You're right to warn everybody to test this thing and go into it with their eyes wide open recognizing that after everything is said and done, we are gambling.  We're just trying to shift the odds our way a little. 

I have to say that this looks like it's a winner.  The unknown variable is your previous spins that indicate that 5 quads in a row only happen once in hundreds of sessions.  If that's true, then this is the one.  It's still possible that you have gathered a very lucky series of spins.  Remember, there is always someone who has unbelievable luck out there, and you may be him.

So, let's test until we're all convinced this is a long term winner.  Let's start with small enough units that we can build a substantial bankroll, but let's always be alert to the fact that something totally unexpected can happen at any time.

Cheers,

George

well said George the testing goes on. Whats been running across my mind is the number 20. There are no losing streaks of more than 19 spins without a matching dozen in my MATRIX 50. and to produce 5 QUADS you need 5x4 =20. Interesting? Is 20 a virtual limit in the MATRIX?? The testing goes on..

[vundarosa]

Oh you just went 13 up against the unbeatable one, and you call it a bad session. Here is what id do if youve won several times in one or two steps of the progression, common sense should tell you that you're going to be pushed to step three or four soon. What you now do if you want to play 400--500 spins is wait four one quad then start betting. I am so patient I MAY DO THIS ANYWAY. FIVE QUADS IN A ROW? There is more chance of Bill Gates knocking at your door tomorrow and handing you a cheque for $1 BILLION DOLLARS. With the one Trigger stipulation. MATRIX VERTICAL IS THE ONE, ATLANTIS, TWISTERUK what do you think?

BTW, are we still containing this to a 7x7 matrix, meaning that after 49 spins we start a new section or do we just keep going betting as triggers come, against quads to form?


vundarosa

[Johnlegend]

by the way, are we still containing this to a 7x7 matrix, meaning that after 49 spins we start a new section or do we just keep going betting as triggers come, against quads to form?


vundarosa

Its optional Vundarosa, Most of my sessions start and finish in that 7x7 frame.

Once in a while they cross the border and the win might come on say the 62nd spin.

Its always a line of 7 though. Twister and Atlantis are playing longer sessions. Thus far randoms not interested in showing us 5 consecutive QUADS, there's something about the NUMBER 20 it is presenting itself as a virtual limit. A point rarely crossed for both versions of the MATRIX. It may have solved one of the mysteries of our time. How do you tame random? Most exciting for me is Matrix VERTICAL seems capable of beating an RNG.

[buffalowizard]

Good point V,

In this example:

1233321
2133211
1112332
2311232
1232321
3322113
2223123

No quads.

So do you just add more lines underneath until a quad forms?

Ok remove this message john, you answered it!

[vundarosa]

Just to see if i am playing this correctly: RNG Eurogrand

3131231
2131321
3131131
|3332332|--->trigger and first line of 7x7
|2222212|
|3231112|
|2321213|-->w pos 7 (+2)
|2232131|-->w pos 6 (+2)
|3232233|
|3121222| seventh row and end of section

That was 7 cycles before the trigger and first line of matrix 49 spins. First line to end of matrix another 49 spins. 2 betting opportunities in 98 spins for +4u profit.

This is only good for RNG, no?!, so few bets in many spins on a live wheel, won't the casino object (or at least become suspecious) to ones winnings?!, especially if they are quite high?!

Ok, that was only one section, lets see how the others go


vundarosa

[vundarosa]

"Most exciting for me is Matrix VERTICAL seems capable of beating an RNG."

I believe so! In the Matrix50 thread, where i was waiting tons of spins for trigger, i was beating the RNG most of the time (meaning 3-4 positive points within the 7x7 matrix) whenever a trigger happened..., even if i was(am) looking for it the wrong way.

So i think you're really up to something big here, if we can only cut down the number of spins without betting. Yes, one way is to increase the BR and from there on play continuous....


vundarosa

[vundarosa]

"Twister and Atlantis are playing longer sessions. Thus far randoms not interested in showing us 5 consecutive QUADS, "

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So how's it done? After a win on the progression (1,3,9,27) we sit iddle waiting for another trigger (quad to form) and then start betting against the next ones?!
Is that correct

Vundarosa

[Post]

I just tested over 1200 real spins and waiting for a quad before betting i was +13 after the 1200 spins is this few or am i doing it wrong ?

[Johnlegend]

I just tested over 1200 real spins and waiting for a quad before betting I was +13 after the 1200 spins is this few or am I doing it wrong ?

How are you doing it Post? My thinking is if this baby is as big as I think. And you are winning all the time but its time consuming we need to increase the value of a point as soon as you're risking your winnings only.

I feel this method is as close to unbeatable in a realistic betting frequency as I've ever seen.

I'm snipe betting an rng for 2 points a win. I'm 64/0. I Thought id have seen at least 4 QAUDS by now. But it can't form more than 3 before breaking.

I'm amazed!

[buffalowizard]

I just tested over 1200 real spins and waiting for a quad before betting I was +13 after the 1200 spins is this few or am I doing it wrong ?

I think that would be the 'true' way of playing it, yes...wait for a virtual after every win.
It would be negating the whole premise if you didn't, I think.

Not all bad though, after all, your units could potentially be Ã,£100 each, giving you Ã,£1300 total. 1200 spins doesn't seem so much then does it?

[frost]

just a question...

wouldnt increasing the chip size decrease the amount of progressions?

[irishrob]

Hi John,

I've just done a quick test on my recorded live wheel spins.
315 spins --> +20 units profit.
Can you tell me if I'm doing it right?

Thanks
Robert

[Johnlegend]

I think that would be the 'true' way of playing it, yes...wait for a virtual after every win.
It would be negating the whole premise if you didn't, I think.

Not all bad though, after all, your units could potentially be Ã,£100 each, giving you Ã,£1300 total. 1200 spins doesn't seem so much then does it?

This true Buff, I think even a 100 a day would be worth the spins. Just won my 19th RNG session. 66/0...

[irishrob]

Here is another quick test on recorded live wheel.
254 spins --> +19 units profit