MATRIX VERTICAL METHOD ONLY

[Twisteruk]

@twister: I confirm your rule waiting for quad to form first is nice idea. Also agree with about the 0 breaking the chain and necessitation of reformation of triple... Another good one!

A.

Cool 

John, write it up mate and we are off and running !

[F_LAT_INO]

F,

It means that when we have a dozen that has formed a 3 times in a row, we are betting that when we come to that location in the next line, the dozen won't hit again for a what we're calling a quad or 4 times.

Example:

1231123
2311231
3231232
232 <-- right here looking up the lines we have 3  first dozen hits so we bet on the 2nd and 3rd dozen hoping that there won't be 4  1st dozens in a row vertically.

Let me know if that's not clear.

G

Clear mate,as I play in my 7x7 all kind
of combinations when there are occuring,certain patterns,.except betting
2 doz.against one

[superman]

@ twisterUK

RNG Playtech

waiting for quad to form first is nice idea.

Why? is this waiting for a vertical 4 in a column? in other words the first loss? don't see any point if it is, we are going to get losses are just trying to miss the first one?

Also agree with about the 0 breaking the chain and necessitation of reformation of triple

Elaborate please

[F_LAT_INO]

That would be nice to have the whole FULL rules for the matrix vertical and that everyone try this baby with the same rules so we can see how it maintains on diferent wheels. . .

Everyone has their own rule and I lost in all this.  

In any case, praise the author for the idea . . .  it would be wonderful to have a tracker for this system to verify its core.  For example as one from Ophis but I now that this is much easier to be track manual for now.

No need a tracker here cause you are playing short sessions circles 7x7.......and btw it has been tested that way couple years ago and it tank as any other
method would----4,5,6,7,8,9,10......the 7 showed best results,but probably only on short
terms.

[superman]

and it tank as any other

Agreed, using visual stimulation of noted results is the same as watching the colour changes on a marquee and "thinking" you are seeing repeating patterns, of course you are seeing the patterns but nothing stops them from changing, and, stating random will never do this or that is a bad interpretation of possible events.

Random has a border its the number.7 inside the Matrix

I doubt it, RNG random may have some limits, we have yet to find them, and comparing a column of results 7x7 isn't going to reach those so called limits, real wheels physics has no limits thats a certain.

Its all eye candy, you may sail along for months before the inevitable happens.

Some people need to be careful as newbies will lose money on these sorts of statements.

@ Fender, the zone was the dangly bits until you realised, then you went AWOL for months, some newer members didn't have the pleasure of seeing the zone, you only realised after many many people said they hit walls/losses then you vanished. You must have realised too.

Your enthusiasm is too much for the newbies, they will think this is a HG it is not.

I request moderation of the thread to warn newer members that no method created by visual interpretation can work long term and NOT knowing when the bad run will come has risks to your bankroll.

Just my 10cents as usual, be careful out there

[Johnlegend]

The only rule I think will be different from you than me and that's the Zero. For me it kills that column dead at that point until it becomes a new Trip. I don't use the number above the Zero

Other than that I think we are down with it, including the stipulation of wait for one Quad.

Then I'm going with the zero kills the treble too Twister. Played 2 sessions today easy winners all results and rules later guys. The wait for a quad has this Method in grail waters progression or not. Random simply cannot produce five CONSECUTIVE QUADS in a hurry. HERES The exciting news MATRIX VERTICAL played for 1 session at a time is looking RNG PROOF. I'm liking this, the zone could never defeat an RNG.

I think MATRIX VERTICAL CAN. Have tested 30 sessions on one and play for real money 5 times. And 3 QUADS in a row is the worst I've had. Play for a win and get out of there and its working...

[Twisteruk]

Result

Spins 34

1st Trip did not become a Quad

Profit +1

Session End

[Johnlegend]

Agreed, using visual stimulation of noted results is the same as watching the colour changes on a marquee and "thinking" you are seeing repeating patterns, of course you are seeing the patterns but nothing stops them from changing, and, stating random will never do this or that is a bad interpretation of possible events.

I doubt it, RNG random may have some limits, we have yet to find them, and comparing a column of results 7x7 isn't going to reach those so called limits, real wheels physics has no limits that's a certain.

Its all eye candy, you may sail along for months before the inevitable happens.

Some people need to be careful as newbies will lose money on these sorts of statements.

@ Fender, the zone was the dangly bits until you realised, then you went AWOL for months, some newer members didn't have the pleasure of seeing the zone, you only realised after many many people said they hit walls/losses then you vanished. You must have realised too.

Your enthusiasm is too much for the newbies, they will think this is a method it is not.

I request moderation of the thread to warn newer members that no method created by visual interpretation can work long term and NOT knowing when the bad run will come has risks to your bankroll.

Just my 10cents as usual, be careful out there

Agreed Superman, you don't know where. A a five quad might form. that's not the argument. The argument is your win to loss ratio makes it all worthwhile. Unless you're telling me. A 1,000 units won to every 80 lost isn't worth it.

And regarding the Zone it was a decent method, I knocked it on the head for two reasons. A, it was too complex for enough people to fully understand. And B, unless you knew it inside out would never know how to profit from its strength. Now we have The MATRIX VERTICAL. Its far superior. Can be analyzed in that playground and I say to every NEWBIE don't risk a penny until you're convinced its as good as I say it is.

Decide if you like the win to loss ratio. At the moment its looking very strong. I have 2,156 documented sessions without a single 5 QUAD. Even if it levels down to 500/1. I'll Take that thankyou very much...

[warrior]

whats the progression on this ?

[buffalowizard]

warrior,

1,3,9,27    risk = 80 units

[Twisteruk]

Warrior,

1,3,9,27    risk = 80 units

With a 1 Quad miss to start 

[buffalowizard]

Twister,

Are you only playing vertically?

(Or whilst lying down?  I'll get my coat)

[atlantis]

Well still not sure on the full rules yet but decided to give a shot anyhow...
Playing against vertical trebles becoming quads only - with 0 rule and trigger loss first.

91 spins 7x13lines matrix

Result (using 1,3,9,27 prog) = +5
6 games: W1, W1, L2, W3, W1, W1; Highest Bet=3

Result (using 1,2,3,4 prog) = +4
6 games: W1, W1, L2, W2, W1, W1; Highest Bet=2

A.

[buffalowizard]

Hi Atlantis

So, in that 7x13, did you count a virtual quad loss first each time? I'm struggling to get more than 1 quad in every 7x13 only vertical

BW

[atlantis]

Hi BW,

Yes you're right! there was only ONE QUAD (losing bet) in the 7x13 matrix. I just counted the 13 lines AFTER that first virtual loss appeared... (trigger)

But I didn't wait for a virtual loss before each bet... After the first trigger virtual loss I bet every qualifier that happened. Is this wrong??

A.