MATRIX VERTICAL METHOD ONLY

[Twisteruk]

Twister,

Are you only playing vertically?

(Or whilst lying down?  I'll get my coat)

Yes mate I am 

[Johnlegend]

Well still not sure on the full rules yet but decided to give a shot anyhow...
Playing against vertical trebles becoming quads only - with 0 rule and trigger loss first.

91 spins 7x13lines matrix

Result (using 1,3,9,27 prog) = +5
6 games: W1, W1, L2, W3, W1, W1; Highest Bet=3

Result (using 1,2,3,4 prog) = +4
6 games: W1, W1, L2, W2, W1, W1; Highest Bet=2

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You've got it Atlantis. To put the doubters at ease I am going to suggest newbies use your staking plan, please explain how it works. And if they secure 500 units plus can then use the 80 point plan. I'm starting with 160 plan as ive got a very strong BR. And I'm putting MATRIX VERTICAL to the ultimate test. I'm putting it up against an RNG. If it can survive 200/1 on there. Matrix Vertical really is special. I'm 39/0 at the moment. And my progression hasn't even been challenged. Standard 3 loss in one of my practise sessions...

[Twisteruk]

@John

What will be your staking levels ?


Also what RNG are you going to use ?


Make sure you give us the juicy breakdown of your results !!!

[Johnlegend]

@John

What will be your staking levels ?


Also what RNG are you going to use ?


Make sure you give us the juicy breakdown of your results !!!

I'm playing for 2pts person win Twister.
Total risk is 160 pts, 2,6,18,54x2=160
So I need 80 wins to match a bank. Have made 32 points so far from 5 sessions.

Here's the funny part Twister. How many 7x7 sessions do you even see with 5Quads?? Not many right? That's why Matrix Vertical is going to defy the mathematicians. There will always be trebles. But Quads themselves don't often form more than 3 Or 4 in the MATRIX 49. And that's seldom consecutive. I have never been this confident. But I'll try to contain myself In that 7x7 format. LoL!

Am using Ladbrokes RNG at the moment.

[atlantis]

You've got it Atlantis. To put the doubters at ease I am going to suggest newbies use your staking plan, please explain how it works.

Hi John,
The 1-2-3-4 step progression is not as good as the 80u progression because you don't always make a profit when you win at all levels.
Basically when you win - you stay at the same level for the next bet if you're still losing otherwise if you're level or ahead you restart from step 1.
If you lose you move up to the next level for the next bet.
You STOP if losing the 4th bet.
The drawback is that you don't always return to step 1 after each winning bet because the profit may not be enough to clear any previous accrued debit - so you play on at the same level - but with less steps available in order to secure the needed win -- unless, that is,  you extend the progression to eg:

1,2,3,4,5,6,7.....

but you need to be sure the system has a pretty good strike rate to do that.

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[Twisteruk]

I'm playing for 2pts person win Twister.
Total risk is 160 pts, 2,6,18,54x2=160
So I need 80 wins to match a bank. Have made 32 points so far from 5 sessions.

Here's the funny part Twister. How many 7x7 sessions do you even see with 5Quads?? Not many right? That's why Matrix Vertical is going to defy the mathematicians. There will always be trebles. But Quads themselves don't often form more than 3 Or 4 in the MATRIX 49. And that's seldom consecutive. I have never been this confident. But I'll try to contain myself In that 7x7 format. LoL!

I know !
I agree totally 

5 Quads in a row ?

Maybe Bayes can tell us what the actual odds for that happening really are !?!?

[Johnlegend]

Hi John,
The 1-2-3-4 step progression is not as good as the 80u progression because you don't always make a profit when you win at all levels.
Basically when you win - you stay at the same level for the next bet if you're still losing otherwise if you're level or ahead you restart from step 1.
If you lose you move up to the next level for the next bet.
You STOP if losing the 4th bet.
The drawback is that you don't always return to step 1 after each winning bet because the profit may not be enough to clear any previous accrued debit - so you play on at the same level - but with less steps available in order to secure the needed win -- unless, that is,  you extend the progression to e.g.:

1,2,3,4,5,6,7.....

but you need to be sure the system has a pretty good strike rate to do that.

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Thankyou Atlantis, The strike-rate is AWESOME. Ãâ,¬n RNG could decode the ZONE 1 out of every 10 or so sessions played even in practice mode. After 39 sessions it hasn't even had one 4 loss Atlantis. Its simply not getting enough time to decode the MATRIX. And you know why? Because its designed to oppose layout players. Its almost like that 80s movie WAR GAMES where they get the computer to play a game of tic tac toe. The computer doesn't know it can't win.

Matrix Vertical is saying to the computer in an RNG you want to beat me DECODE THIS. And because its not getting long enough it can't. Rules in 90 mins guys I'm out to eat..

[Twisteruk]

Thankyou Atlantis, The strike-rate is AWESOME. Ãâ,¬n RNG could decode the ZONE 1 out of every 10 or so sessions played even in practice mode. After 39 .sessions it hasn't even had one 4 loss Atlantis. Its simply not getting enough time to decode the MATRIX. And you know why? Because its designed to oppose layout players. It almost like that 80s movie WAR GAMES where they get the computer to play a game of tic tac toe. The computer doesn't know it can't win.

Matrix Vertical is saying to the computer in an RNG your want to beat me DECODE THIS. And because its not getting long enough it can't. Rules in 90 mins guys I'm out to eat..

Have you/will you try BV No Zero RNG ?

[Twisteruk]

Result from BV No Zero

49 Spins

Profit +1

[Twisteruk]

Result from BV No Zero

49 Spins

Profit +3

[atlantis]

JohnL/fender1000 wrote:

It almost like that 80s movie WAR GAMES where they get the computer to play a game of tic tac toe. The computer doesn't know it can't win.

Hey  - It is a bit like the popular game "CONNECT 4" - except the computer loses!
link:://:.mathsisfun.com/games/connect4.html

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[Johnlegend]

JohnL/fender1000 wrote:


Hey  - It is a bit like the popular game "CONNECT 4" - except the computer loses!
link:://:.mathsisfun.com/games/connect4.html

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EXACTLY, don't get me wrong I have no doubt (and this is for the likes of Superman) that both an RNG and Live Wheel will eventually have a 5 QUAD staring me in the face. The only question that needs to be anwsered is How often? I certainly know the win to loss ratio is going to seriously make my 160 point risk worth it.

[Johnlegend]

THE RULES OF MATRIX VERTICAL.

(01) WE RECORD SPINS OR WAIT UNTIL THE RNG/LIVE WHEEL. Produces one vertical column of 4 of the same dozen, A QUAD. That is our trigger to begin a session. So the top left hand side of our 7x7 grid will always look like this I.E

3
3
3
3=TRIGGER

(02) We now wait until the next vertical treble of a dozen forms. And we commence betting that it won't become another QUAD.

(03) Using Alantis staking that would be 1 point on each of the opposing dozens.
so if we have a treble of dozen 1.

1
1
1
x--we now bet on dozen 2 an dozen 3 with one point each. If we win we remain at 1 point each dozen and wait for the next vertical treble. If we lose we jump to two points per dozen on the next qualifier. THREE POINTS ON STEP 3 AND 4 POINTS ON STEP 4, We are using a 4 step plan.

1,2,3,4. Designed to recover part of the loss but not make profit on any bet post the first one. The idea is recovery if we go beyond bet one (TWO LOSING QUADS). I recommend this for NEWBIES with limited funds. If you fail to win step four, you have just witnessed a rare occurance. The formation of 5 consecutive QUADS (4 VERTICAL DOZENS OF THE SAME KIND)

(03) Once you have won several hundred units 300 minumum. You may want to graduate to a plan that wins 1 point profit on all 4 steps. 1,3,9,27. But that's only if you have won several hundred points. Or have plenty of money to start with.

(04) It is recommended that you play the Method in a 7x7 MATRIX 49. WHY? Because there are rarely even 5 QUADS In that frame total. But usually 2-10 trebles.

(05) My confidence is such that you could play several sessions in a day. The question is time for you. Most Sessions should give you several betting oppurtunities. So a SINGLE SESSION.Could win you anything from 1--8 points. Although if playing on an RNG, I would use a snipe method where you shut down after a win. Never giving the computer time to decode the MATRIX.

(06) If there is a ZERO in the makeup of a treble, that vertical treble becomes VOID, and we wait for the formation of another one.

(07) I suggest playing this METHOD on a live wheel to begin with. I am testing it on an RNG at present. If it holds up 200/1 strikerate minumum. I will promote its use on any RNG I know can be beaten.

(08) TEST,TEST,TEST! Show yourself how good this Method is. Then you will see the justification for the risk of a progression.

(09) Aim to win at least 200 units before you increase the value of a point, at present no-one not even me knows how rare a 5 QUAD is. It could be anything from 200/1---10,000/1. Or somehwere in the middle. At the moment my records indicate its not showing while you win thousands of units. For me its strike rate has to hold 500/1 on a live wheel and 200/1 on an RNG. And if it does it becomes my main METHOD.

(10) Record all your sessions for reference, so you A, you develope confidence and B, learn the behaviour of the method within the Matrix.

Those are the ten main pointers/rules Twister and Atlantis may advise and criticize to get an even stronger set of rules. For now I will leave it with these...

[atlantis]

Here is session with real numbers:

1132123
1331232
3301322
2232031
3012233
2213313
1111223
1111231---quad formed at position 3 = trigger, Won on pos. 7
2332121
1303333
3232211
3323321
1332332
1331110
1131113
1211103--Lost at pos. 1; Won at pos. 3
1121212--Lost at pos. 4; Won at pos. 5

5 games: W1, L2, W3, L2, W3 = +3; Highest bet =3

or if using 1-2-3-4 prog:

5 games: W1, L2, W2, L2, W2 = +1; Highest bet =2


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[buffalowizard]

1 point john,

if you win on after a trigger quad, do you then retrack for another virtual loss (another quad) before recommencing the bet?

Thanks

BW