MATRIX VERTICAL METHOD ONLY

[Johnlegend]

That's great F,
It's good to hear you are doing well with a 7x7 grid... If so, you are getting more bets, you are flatbetting and you're getting the needed wins in a lot less spins too. You can go home with a profit earlier than with MATRIX VERTICAL by the sound of it.
I'm sure we'd all benefit by listening to profitable alternative matrix strategies.

A.
PS. I shall agree with John however -  when it comes down to it MATRIX VERTICAL could be "THE SOLUTION" to breaking the roulette code.

You'll get no argument from me there the zone would lose 150/1 APPROX (96 POINT PROGRESSION)---Matrix 49 12/1 APPROX---12 POINT LOSS LIMIT---MATRIX VERTICAL---2,000/1???(80 POINT PROGRESSION)

[irishrob]

Am I just not lucky???

Tested 2500 spin from random.org.
Profit is around +40 units, lost -80 units, down to about -40

[GLC]

Am I just not lucky???

Tested 2500 spin from random.org.
Profit is around +40 units, lost -80 units, down to about -40

Irishrob, you're just going to have to change your handle because you're giving the Irish a bad name, mate.

Hey, these sessions are what we need to see.  This helps us get a better picture of what to expect. 

It's not the end of the system since every system has to have losses.

G

[StackBundles]

i was just thinking doubles come alot can we not just flat bet the doubles? we would have loads of betting chances and could hit our targets quicky and we would only have to bet on 1 dozen i havent tryed this i just kinda spotted it in a few posts

[GLC]

I was just thinking doubles come a lot can we not just flat bet the doubles? we would have loads of betting chances and could hit our targets quicky and we would only have to bet on 1 dozen I haven't tryed this I just kinda spotted it in a few posts

Stack,

Go to "Full Systems" and look at Sekuritati's post called "Matrix 50 - The one".  That is the original matrix system by Johnlegend.  It is based on exactly what you have spotted.  It also seems to work quite well.

G

[StackBundles]

yeh? aint seen it but i did a quick test with some results atlantis posted

2   1   2   2   1   3   3
3   1   2   3   2   1   3 = 2pts
3   2   2   1   2   3   3 = 5pts
3   2   3   2   2   3   3 = 8pts
2   1   1   3   3   2   3 = -4pts
3   2   1   1   2   3   1 = -4pts
2   2   2   1   3   1   3 = -1pts
2   1   2   3   1   3   3 = 2pts
2   3   3   2   3   1   3 = -1pts
2   3   3   1   3   3   3 = 8pts
1   1   3   3   2   3   1 = -1pts
2   3   1   3   1   2   1 = -1pts
3   1   3   1   1   1   2 = -4pts
3   3   2   3   2   1   2 = 2pts
3   2       = 1pts

total = 13pts

and also youd get different results if u changed the size of the grid maybe i should posted it in that thread sorry

[GLC]

John,

Would you please delete my reply #272 about the 7 matrices being the way to get a lot of bets.  I have tested it a couple of times, and it doesn't work.  What happens is that you get basically the same matrices except that each line keeps moving to the right 1 step on each succeeding matrix.  I don't want to mislead anyone into wasting any time with that idea.

Maybe you're right, we shouldn't try to get too clever with the system and just stick to the basics.

George

[Johnlegend]

John,

Would you please delete my reply #272 about the 7 matrices being the way to get a lot of bets.  I have tested it a couple of times, and it doesn't work.  What happens is that you get basically the same matrices except that each line keeps moving to the right 1 step on each succeeding matrix.  I don't want to mislead anyone into wasting any time with that idea.

Maybe you're right, we shouldn't try to get too clever with the system and just stick to the basics.

George

Okay George. You need to stay patient. I know its hard to wait. For people who lack patience my original method could be played too.

I'm so enthused George because MATRIX VERTICAL is an unknown. I knew the approx strikerate of the Zone, Matrix 49 is approx 12/1. But Matrix VERTICAL??? How do you measure something when we don't know.

Its the number 20 George. The Matrix won't allow random to cross it certainly not often. In both MATRIXES. In MATRIX 49 I have counted over 2,340 losing streaks of 9---19. There is nothing beyond that between two matching doubles.

Now with MATRIX VERTICAL it takes 5x4=20 for random to defeat it. And so far we can't find it.

I believe we've found a VIRTUAL LIMIT George inside the MATRIX. Long enough to tame random, but short enough to be noticed and exploited, in a winning METHOD/S...Its the number. 20 George...

[superman]

Am I just not lucky???

No Irishrob you're just getting what can be expected, my bot suffered 3 losses within 200 spins so I scapped the idea, it fails at the same rate as expected, the others are just lucky so far.

[Johnlegend]

No Irishrob you're just getting what can be expected, my bot suffered 3 losses within 200 spins so I scapped the idea, it fails at the same rate as expected, the others are just lucky so far.

Them a bot is unreliable for testing this there is no way you are going to get 3 5 QUADS in 200 spins. I haven't got one in 20,000 from RNG and Live wheel records. Until an Run defeats me twice I can't get a true average. I'm 108/0 after 46 sessions now The RNG Can't get past 3 consecutive Quads at present...

[Bayes]

Them a bot is unreliable for testing this there is no way you are going to get 3 5 QUADS in 200 spins.

John, can you show an example of what this would look like? I admit I haven't followed all the twists and turns in this thread but 2 programmers have verified that the bet selection doesn't give any advantage. What would be a reliable way of checking this, in your opinion?

[Twisteruk]

Just FYI 


link:://rouletteforum.cc/coding-for-roulette/any-bored-programmers-out-there/msg36510/#msg36510

[Twisteruk]

John, I think we may have a problem


Some Members are not following the rules.


Maybe you could refresh them ?


Cheers 

[Twisteruk]

No Irishrob you're just getting what can be expected, my bot suffered 3 losses within 200 spins so I scapped the idea, it fails at the same rate as expected, the others are just lucky so far.

Hi Superman

After the Trigger (1 Quad) You then ignore it in the sense Vertically

Its Four more consecutive Vertical Quads that kill us (5 in Total)

Once you have your Trigger you are waiting for the next Trip, then bet it doesn't become a Quad, using the 4 stage progression 1-3-9-27


Cheers  

[Bayes]

After the Trigger (1 Quad) You then ignore it in the sense Vertically

Its Four more Vertical Quads that kill us

Once you have your Trigger you are waiting for the next Trip, then bet it doesn't become a Quad, using the 4 stage progression 1-3-9-27
Cheers 

So how many times do you bet on the same line (that it won't continue)?

Are you saying that you just be once when you have a vertical line of 3 (bet against it becoming a 4), then if that fails, you wait for a new line of 3 to form?