MATRIX VERTICAL METHOD ONLY

[Twisteruk]

Twister I'm keeping it RNG. I've always wanted to beat them. Snipe betting has them chasing their own tail. ..Just went 128/0 after 57 sessions. One instant win, and one second step win. I'm trying to complete one betting bank today. 160pts....

lol 

Nice !

BV RNG hasnt sussed it yet 

Snipe Snipe Snipe 

[atlantis]

Hi John and Twister,
Great to hear you're still getting good results from this with the snipe approach. It's an intriguing method and should be obvious by now it's plainly quite different to those other pattern matching on the layout schemes. (like Roulette Bandit for instance)
Let's hope the run of good fortune just goes on and on... and on...

A.

[vundarosa]

For those who want a bit more action you can try this... I am still testing it so not sure it works all the time...


Progression (1-1, 3-3, 9-9, 27-27)

Set up three matrix:  3x3  5x5 and 7x7
On the same spin mark a corresponding position on each matrix
e.g. if 22,33,14,32,14 comes out it would look like (x is missing number, next spin)

M3x3      M5x5      M7x7
232       23232      23232xx
32x        xxxxx         xxxxxxx


We are betting AGAINST formation of:

*M3x3 that we will not have doubles become triples; that there cannot be three sets of doubles in the matrix at same time

*M5x5 that we will not have triples become quads; that there cannot be have four sets of triples in the matrix at the same time

*M7x7 that we will not have quads become penta; that there cannot be five sets on quads in the matrix at the same time.


For each matrix we wait for a virtual loss before betting.

-E.g M3x3 we wait until we have a double formed than bet against the next doubles becoming a triple.
-E.g M5x5 we wait until we have a triple formed than bet against the next triples becoming a quad

-E.g M7x7 we wait until we have a quad formed than bet against the next quads becoming a penta


This would give you more betting frequency while you wait for the 1u in 100 spins betting chance in the M7x7...

I am yet to go over stage two on the progression on a RNG...but i'm just in the beggining of the testing.

what thinketh you?!

[Johnlegend]

Hi John and Twister,
Great to hear you're still getting good results ufrom this with the snipe approach. It's an intriguing method and should be obvious by now it's plainly quite different to those other pattern matching on the layout schemes. (like Roulette Bandit for instance)
Let's hope the run of good fortune just goes on and on... and on...

A.

Thankyou Atlantis and high praise to TWISTERUK. His zero voids a treble just proved its value. Am now 68/0 With 162 points profit. In one of my sessions the green goblin made up a treble. Had I played it, I would have been pushed to step 4 of the progression. It won anyway, but well done twister for that stipulation. So I've now turned a betting bank my goal today is 200 points total...

[Twisteruk]

Thankyou Atlantis and high praise to TWISTERUK. His zero voids a treble just proved its value. Am now 68/0 With 162 points profit. In one of my sessions the green goblin made up a treble. Had I played it, I would have been pushed to step 4 of the progression. It won anyway, but well done twister for that stipulation. So I've now turned a betting bank my goal today is 200 points total...

How many points are you getting a day John ? From how many Sessions ?

Also how far on do you play, when in the Matrix ?

I play in a 7 Matrix but I dont always stop at 49

Also, do you always play the Virtual Loss after a Win ?

[superman]

Them a bot is unreliable for testing

When I first posted the method I was testing NOBODY said it was wrong, heck, I even asked if the rules had morphed again.

then bet it doesn't become a Quad, using the 4 stage progression 1-3-9-27

So the only spin we bet is spin 4 of a qualifier, being a qualifier covers spins 1 to 3, if we dont win on spin 4 we abondon that attack, correct?

Some are waiting for a new trigger AFTER A WIN

So which is the proper way, for us to test it we need it to be clear, who are "some"? fender do you play this way?

simulations from superman and mr.ore

We're sorry

So what about this one? It was played by the rules

Heu Irishrob, me and mr.ore are looking for a 3rd person who got it wrong, did you play it wrong or forget to put the zeros in? pullin yer leg mate

Remember, at the end of the day this thing has to defeat an RNG and live wheel

I think anything that can beat RNG will have an easy time on live wheels, I might be worng though, an RNG killer would be the end of online RNG roulette we may be closer now than we were 5 years ago, but I dont personally think we are there yet, I will make the mods to the bot and retest and post results, 124/0 looks TGTBT, you havent played many sessions of length as you have only had 124 wins, the bot will do that within 10 minutes, how long are your sessions?

[Johnlegend]

How many points are you getting a day John ? From how many Sessions ?

Also how far on do you play, when in the Matrix ?

I play in a 7 Matrix but I don't always stop at 49

Also, do you always play the Virtual Loss after a Win ?

Hey Twister, well done mate your stipulation on the zero in a treble made a difference today.

Yes as you know getting even 4quads in MATRIX 49 doesn't happen much. What I àn doing is waiting for a QUAD TRIGGER
Then starting my session, so in effect the trigger is always in place at the top left of the grid. That way I get the maximum. Play. But Will play for the win as long as it takes twister. Longest wait so far 89 spins.

I absolutely wait for a trigger each play, in the beginning I didn't and nearly got my ass kicked. When a 3 QUAD developed. That's why I wad winning 4--6 pts in the beginning. DONT DO IT.

The powers on that 5 QUAD fortress Twister. Ive now seen a 4 QUAD albeit one with a ZERO in it.

But 5 QUAD, is solid Twister. See the RNG can't figure out that its got to do the same thing 20 times in a row to beat you. The only thing that could go wrong is the zero but youve dealt with that.

[superman]

I absolutely wait for a trigger each play, in the beginning I didn't and nearly got my arse kicked. When a 3 QUAD developed. That's why I wad winning 4--6 pts in the beginning

Rule change again? so what do I go with? as far as I am concerned and the above proves this, you wait until it almost catches you then morph to try and avoid nasties, I dont think waiting for the next nasty then making the assumption it will only chuck 1 nasty at a time so its safe to bet is of any assistance, sure others will agree with that, but anyway its your rules so let me know, do I now wait for a nasty before I play a 1 bet attack?

[atlantis]

I did a session on real numbers (german casino) thru RX manually testing today:

Trigger (nasty) on spin 122
Bet on Spin 128 - WON +1
Next Trigger (nasty) on spin 132
Bet on Spin 151 - WON +1
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END SESSION
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+2
Both bets won on 1st spin.

Long wait for 1st trigger 

A.

[redhot]

Just gonna throw an idea out there...

How about playing 'the zone' on a vertical matrix??

anyone tried it?

[flukey luke]

@superman, here is an example of a losing game provided by Bayes.
The first loss was a virtual loss.

Right, so here is an example of a losing run:

1 3 2 2 1 3 1
2 3 1 1 2 3 2
1 3 2 1 2 2 3
2 3 3 1 2 3 1 <- 1st loss
2 1 2 1 2 1 3 <- 2nd & 3rd losses
3 1 2 1 1 3 2
1 3 2 2 3 1 2
3 1 2 3 1 2 2 <- 4th loss
2 3 1 2 1 3 2 <- 5th loss

So the second trigger was the start of the 1,3,9,27 betting progression.

[Johnlegend]

Just gonna throw an idea out there...

How about playing 'the zone' on a vertical matrix??

anyone tried it?

That made me laugh redhot. You not. Serious I know...

[atlantis]

That made me laugh redhot. You not. Serious I know...

Made me smile too. It wouldn't work.

A.

[Johnlegend]

When I first posted the method I was testing NOBODY said it was wrong, heck, I even asked if the rules had morphed again.

So the only spin we bet is spin 4 of a qualifier, being a qualifier covers spins 1 to 3, if we don't win on spin 4 we abondon that attack, correct?

So which is the proper way, for us to test it we need it to be clear, who are "some"? fender do you play this way?

We're sorry

Heu Irishrob, me and mr.ore are looking for a 3rd person who got it wrong, did you play it wrong or forget to put the zeros in? pullin yer leg mate

I think anything that can beat RNG will have an easy time on live wheels, I might be worng though, an RNG killer would be the end of online RNG roulette we may be closer now than we were 5 years ago, but I don't personally think we are there yet, I will make the mods to the bot and retest and post results, 124/0 looks TGTBT, you haven't played many sessions of length as you have only had 124 wins, the bot will do that within 10 minutes, how long are your sessions?

Superman calm down sir, You're starting to realize we've got it. The power of Matrix vertical is its saying to random AND mans version (RNG) You want my money land a dozen in the same spot in 20 cycles of 7. Now I personally don't trust simulators/bots. Because anyway you look at it they don't truly duplicate random. And secondly no-ones gonna play a 20,000 spin session.

There is always a one quad trigger before a session commences. And its **5** quads that's loses not **4**.

A zero in the treble voids it so you might think you're looking at 5 QUADS when there's a void amongst them. Now let's clear something up no-ones saying MATRIX VERTICAL doesn't lose only how often? If it were even 81/1 The games beaten. All I know at present. Is a predatory rng that'll take any layout method to pieces is getting a pasting...

[superman]

Superman calm down sir

Always calm and mellow mate.

You're starting at realize we've got it

Not quite yet, intrigued maybe otherwise I wouldn't spend time on it.

And secondly no-ones gonna play a 20,000 spin session

Really! I mean if you claim to have "the method" it shouldn't be a problem playing continuosly should it? I am sure most if not all members/players of RNG would want to play as often and as long as they like.

Like I said earlier, adding extra triggers is just doing so in the hope you miss the nasty that almost caught you once, how do you know you wont get 2 nasties in a row, answer, you don't but if you do will you then add 2 triggers? and bet every 3rd run of 3?

I am running the bot with your miss one bet one method, so far 72 attacks 44 units up, max progression reached 27, 3 times that's the last step of the progression reached, agreed it's not a loss yet but it's close.

Will let it do 200 attackes then post the results for you to peruse, if it fails before then I will post as far as it got.