MATRIX VERTICAL METHOD ONLY

[Post]

but still the question is how many times does a 9 pointer appear ?

[Johnlegend]

But still the question is how many times does a 9 pointer appear ?

We don't know Post. No ones ever seen one develope from an RNG or Live wheel. It could be as rare as a 5 Quad or rarer. I know what you're getting at. You would rather take your chances with the first quad that developes rather than wait it out for the rest of the game.

[Twisteruk]

Well I AM the Party Pooper at the moment 


Just had SIX Quads in a row 


Had first Quad Trigger

Then the next FIVE Trips ALL became Quads

Making 6 in total


Urgghhhh 


I only bet 1-3-9-27 and I stopped there but I kept tracking "just to see"


Still in Profit by over 1 Bank but this is a big kick in the gonads 

[Post]

that sucks man a 6 quad !!

i am working on betting against a single streak meaning keep betting a triple until its a different dozen most if seen is 6 but am still testing 

[malcop]

knowing that a 5 quad does not form that often why not start  betting on a 3quad as a trigger  ?

Hi that is a very interesting idea, you could do this

You win on the 1st or second 3quad, so now would start your progression over on the third quad, you would have more action for the same amount of spins.

Just a thought.

malcop

[ZigZag]

Well I AM the Party Pooper at the moment 


Just had SIX Quads in a row 

Maybe time to go back to basics with the original matrix 50 or 49? 

[atlantis]

Well I AM the Party Pooper at the moment  
Just had SIX Quads in a row  
Had first Quad Trigger
Then the next FIVE Trips ALL became Quads
Making 6 in total
Urgghhhh  
I only bet 1-3-9-27 and I stopped there but I kept tracking "just to see"
Still in Profit by over 1 Bank but this is a big kick in the gonads  

Using the other progression 1-1,2-2,3-3,4-4,5-5.... you'd be down only 30u after 5 consec. losses like that. And from then on it would be a case of damage limitation and possible recovery... You would bet 6-6 on the next triple not forming a quad.
If you won that you remain at 6-6 for the next qualifier (because you're still behind) else if lose the 6-6 you go up to 7-7...etc... (It is that King System for dozens approach)
Hopefully after such a rare occurrence the normal strike rate will return and you can bet yourself back into the game?


A.

[Johnlegend]

Well I AM the Party Pooper at the moment  


Just had SIX Quads in a row  


Had first Quad Trigger

Then the next FIVE Trips ALL became Quads

Making 6 in total


Urgghhhh  


I only bet 1-3-9-27 and I stopped there but I kept tracking "just to see"


Still in Profit by over 1 Bank but this is a big kick in the gonads  

OHMYGOSH was that on BV Twister, and are you playing real money? I've just completed my 12 sessions for today and still have nothing worse than a 4 QUAD ALTHOUGH 2 said hello today. Alright so rng can produce them. But how often?  

STATE OF PLAY
TOTAL sessions played=162
Losses=Zero
Total Profit=374 points

How todays 12 Panned out.
STEP 1 WINS=5
STEP 2 WINS=4
STEP 3 WINS=1
STEP 4 WINS=2

[Twisteruk]

OHMYGOSH was that on BV Twister, and are you playing real money? I've just completed my 12 sessions for today and still have nothing worse than a 4 QUAD ALTHOUGH 2 said hello today. Alright so rng can produce them. But how often? 

Yep that was on BV

Yes real money. I am still over 1 bank in Profit 

How often ?
I dont know
You cud get get 2 in 2 sessions then none for 200 sessions or longer (for example) 

[Johnlegend]

Yep that was on BV

Yes real money. I am still over 1 bank in Profit  

How often ?
I don't know
You could get get 2 in 2 sessions then none for 200 sessions or longer (for example)  

Still remember this is RNG I'm looking for 200/1 and I still think well get it. This is where Atlantis's excellent staking plans come in, I'm thinking if we win 100 times at 80point risk we now continue playing at 40 point risk. After a loss we move back up. So in my case ive won 187 times at 160 pts I'm going to press for 200 wins tomorrow them drop to 80points and see how long I can hold out.

[Johnlegend]

Maybe time to go back to basics with the original matrix 50 or 49?  

The original is a grinder Zig Zag. It gets the job done on live wheels. Had 5 winning sessions today. Going to start going into detail about it more. To TWISTER and all others following this thread. I wouldn't be dis-heartenned just yet. Remember we needed a loss to one, know it happens. And two, get an idea of the average strikerate. don't forget. Twister has already won more than two times what he lost.

Also we are playing an RNG. that's why I expect a strikerate of 200/1 to make it worthwhile. I believe TWISTER got read even with his snipe attack. If we could translate the MATRIX method to a faster turnover and get it done on a live wheel I believe the strikerate would be at least double an RNG. Now a shy but very creative poster on this forum. P.F, who knows who he is, has made some fantastic contributions to system design over the last 10 months.

He P messaged me the other day with the anwser I believe to translating this method to live wheel play. And I am very excited about it as I have been testing it with great results. Before I dis-appeared off the grid last year, we worked on two or three very promising methods. One I still use and have yet to reveal on here.

The other was the fore-runner of the Matrix. At the time we had it coined as Decoder 3. It was a 3 wide matrix where for a 3 bet progression you opposed the 3 results in the line above. Its strike rate ended up not being as good as we had hoped. But still a respectable 30/1 average. With 26 points at risk to cover the progression 1,3,9x2

However, with a snipe play method where you played 2 games and quit. You could double the strike rate before the eventual loss would occur.

During our study of this method I first noticed the formation of vertical columns. And by the end of last year formulated THE MATRIX 50, now revised as MATRIX 49. If he gives the go ahead I will post up his latest brilliant incarnation of the Matrix to be used on LIVE WHEELS.

[ScoobyDoo]

Hi Guys,

Ok..Ok....Lets not have any knee-jerk reactions here. It's a good method. Lets calmly consider several things:

What is the "average" number of sessions between losses? We don't know yet

What is the best way to bet it? We don't know yet

Does the width of the Matrix play a factor? We don't know yet

Is it practical to play this method in terms of time and profit? We don't know yet

You see?? We don't know enough yet to be quitting this method so lets continue and see what the "TRUE" parameters of the method really are?

Just like Twister found out, there will be losses on occasion. The idea is to win more than is lost within a reasonable amount of time. That's it...nothing more can be expected.

So lets plod forward and really tear this method apart to see what it's made of.

Scooby Doo

[Johnlegend]

Hi Guys,

Ok..Ok....Lets not have any knee-jerk reactions here. It's a good method. Lets calmly consider several things:

What is the "average" number of sessions between losses? We don't know yet

What is the best way to bet it? We don't know yet

Does the width of the Matrix play a factor? We don't know yet

Is it practical to play this method in terms of time and profit? We don't know yet

You see?? We don't know enough yet to be quitting this method so lets continue and see what the "TRUE" parameters of the method really are?

Just like Twister found out, there will be losses on occasion. The idea is to win more than is lost within a reasonable amount of time. That's it...nothing more can be expected.

So lets plod forward and really tear this method apart to see what it's made of.

Scooby Doo

Hey Scooby well said, now have you read my above post? 

[ScoobyDoo]

Hi JL,

Yes I read your post and have sent you a PM regarding it.

Scooby Doo

[Post]

when will you post your brilliant incarnation of the Matrix ?
I  am verry curious about it john legend.