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Started by winkel, Feb 11, 04:40 PM 2011

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Fripper

Hi Moxy.


I did the test in RX (Roulette Xtreme), I think that aleks06 did it too.


Cheers
All i'm doing is living my life.

Ginnelli

Hi All


Would please like to ask a question.Do you continue until in profit or if you have your two hits within six spins on that DS, which has almost recouped all bets placed and almost in profit again, do you rather re-track and not continues to follow that DS? due to maybe not getting another hit and loosing larger amounts.


Regards


Ginnelli

darrnyf

long progressions wont help to beat this game....fibonacci is not recommended progression...up as u win progression..is best of the lot..regression

swarm

The Swarm forecast:

Once the players start losing the first 10 ,000 units bankroll , others 10,000 units bankroll , will be lose on a short period of time..... making the amount of loses so high that player if wise....

Will quit before losing all their winnings....then they will restart their quest for a system or quit gambling.

Or Player will lose all his bankrolls making him to face a huge negative balance really hard to recover.

Swarm the wizard
Master Dispersion Killer

falkor

I'VE GOT EXPLOSIVE NEWS IN THE FORM OF NEW STATS!!!!

Fibonacci Numbers
1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,1597

Max 1000 Table limit
Max # bets: 15 * 5 = 75

Max 2000 Table limit
Max # bets: 16 * 5 = 80

Max Cold Double Streets in 1,000,000 spins
79!

That means this system should pass the 1 million spin test!!

Is there any way the system can be improved slightly? If we apply it to single streets would the stats fair any better?

JimmieB

Hi Falkor,

It's not just a case of how long the street sleeps, it's how quickly it repeats in order for to get in profit...

What If the street sleeps for another 35 spins....

If my sums are correct after 78 spins you are 12627 units down, a win on the 79th spin means you are still 4882 units down, you want a repeat of the street within the next 5 spins, therefore, you potentially need another level of bets at 2207 per bet if the street doesn't repeat on spin 80.

Regards
Jim

Turner

Just read this whole topic.

Quite interesting from a personalities point of view

Winkle was a high wire walker all the way through....a Grand Canyon job....high precision and balance until page 11, where he started to wobble a bit and have doubts. I think he fell off about page 13.

wonder how many people lost a fortune ?

JimmieB

Hi Turner,

I don't see it that way, Winkel advised it was too difficult to bet the 6 DS's at the same time on p11. The changes advised further were to reset when you had a profit to avoid large drawdowns, possibly stop if the DS hasn't shown for 40 spins...I think???

I'm not sure how many people will have played this due to the large BR requirments, any who have and lost fortunes, let's hope it was the casino's money :)

Turner

Quote from: JimmieB on Oct 01, 04:03 PM 2014
Hi Turner,

I don't see it that way, Winkel advised it was too difficult to bet the 6 DS's at the same time on p11. The changes advised further were to reset when you had a profit to avoid large drawdowns, possibly stop if the DS hasn't shown for 40 spins...I think???

I'm not sure how many people will have played this due to the large BR requirments, any who have and lost fortunes, let's hope it was the casino's money :)

Interesting to see a few people being blindly dragged along though without doubting it, like Acolytes.

Happened a lot with John Legend

Anyhow...found it interesting

Some things in there worth thinking about.

JimmieB

Absolutely, some interesting stuff worth thinking about, however, as always you need to be cautious.... :)

muggins

Balls of steel and a huge BR are required for this, very scary. :ooh:
Begin each day as though you think it is your last, you never know when you will be right.

RouletteGhost

what i gathered is you pick one double street

bet it with a stretched fibonacci and keep going until you reach your goal?

seems to risky on ONE double street

how about the same money management on 3 double streets?
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

JimmieB

Hey Rich,

Yes, this is the way it should be played.

On point before I continue, the bet placement is secondary, it's playing the progression which is the key factor, hence the requirement for the large BR and big b***s!!!!

If you are betting on 3 DS, this is now an EC bet, therefore, as you know you are now required to go up a step in the progression each spin, also as you are betting 3 DS's you need treble the stake each spin. Taking this into account, for example, after 10 cycles (10 spins) on the 3 DS's your BR requirement is 696, on the 1 DS after 10 cycles (50 spins) is 1160, less than double the BR for 5 times the spins, although, I appreciate circa 50% of the table now covered compared to 17%....I guess the question is are you more likely to hit 2 of the 3 DS's in a row to return a profit, or, the 1 DS twice within the required amount of spins....???

Also, you are advised early on in this thread, this is a system for just one chip placement, and I believe this is the way it should be played. I initially tried betting 4 streets, or, 2 x DS at the same time, effectively a dozen bet, meaning you are stretching the progression by 2, with double the stake required on the 2 x DS, and 4 times on 4 x streets, doing this can eat into your BR at quite a rate, as could be the case with betting on 3 x DS as above. The thread also initially talked about using this on a single dozen, however, this becomes too expensive, too quickly.

Regards
Jim


BudskiiHD

Quote from: Turner on Oct 01, 03:48 PM 2014
Just read this whole topic.

Quite interesting from a personalities point of view

Winkle was a high wire walker all the way through....a Grand Canyon job....high precision and balance until page 11, where he started to wobble a bit and have doubts. I think he fell off about page 13.

wonder how many people lost a fortune ?

Any comments about this Winkel? Are you still playing this method?

winkel

Quote from: BudskiiHD on Dec 15, 08:28 AM 2014
QuoteQuote from: Turner on October 01, 2014, 07:48:04 PM

    Just read this whole topic.

    Quite interesting from a personalities point of view

    Winkle was a high wire walker all the way through....a Grand Canyon job....high precision and balance until page 11, where he started to wobble a bit and have doubts. I think he fell off about page 13.

    wonder how many people lost a fortune ?

Any comments about this Winkel? Are you still playing this method?

Why should I comment?
If people start to play all 37 numbers at the same time and lost a fortune, they blame me not their own stupidity.

I always said and I say it again:
You can´t beat that game with 50$/â,¬. You have to know the risc and the probability. I can´t take the risc off of that game I just can put new Input to people.
If you don´t have the money to play, don´t play.

As I have been attacked like this:

Quotewinkel - quit trying to save your public reputation! You already know I posted my test results, so quit playing more games - everyone can see you are playing dumb - it just makes you appear narcissistic. You may feel empty and bored inside sometimes, but it's not fair what you are doing to other people through forums and the game of roulette. Facing your own demons is the only way out of this madness!

I moved from the creators side to the bashers side too.

Falkor is creating rules every five minutes and swearing that it now the winning system beyond all doubts. Rule, rules, more rules that is why its called rule-tte
There is always a game

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