win as much as you want

[winkel]

Hi,

the title is provocative but true.

If you wanna win a fortune to have to bet a fortune
If you wanna win a reasonable amount

you have to bet a reasonable amount

Now what is main stream of this?

I have detected a formula for all chances which will win in

long term.

this formula has no effect on ECs, but on Doz/col, double-streets and streets.
It is very complicated on splits and straight

numbers.

It needs a bankroll of more than 3000 units at the table and about 10000 units to be on the secure site.

We all know that

any betseletion will lead us to the probability that our selected chance will sleep that long that our flat bet or pogressions will not win longterm.


/>The solution would be to find a progression to win the latest possible appearance of our selected chance or to win so much in all other cases that a

bust wouldnÃ,´t do us any harm.

This means to take advantage of  reapperances in short terms and recovering in late appearances.

/>
more later

br winkel

[F_LAT_INO]

Very interesting and looking forward to hear more,
as man, regardless of experience,learns about roulette
something new every day.

[chrisbis]

Yes, sounds Like U Have an Audience Winkel.

[sekuritati]

Hi,

It needs a bankroll of more than 3000 units at the table and about 10000 units to be on the secure site.

We all know that any betseletion will lead us to the probability that our selected chance will sleep that long that our flat bet or pogressions will not win longterm.

The solution would be to find a progression to win the latest possible appearance of our selected chance or to win so much in all other cases that a bust wouldn´t do us any harm.

This means to take advantage of  reapperances in short terms and recovering in late appearances.

more later

br winkel

good to hear you have a new brainchild  i just hope that the stated progression needing 3000 units br has no bets that can exceed the 1-100 standart table limit spreads

[winkel]

First of all I donÃ,´t test strategies without refering to the table-limits.

Limits like some Ocs min ,5 max 20 are redicoulous. So I refer to real table-limits in B&M or in OCs like Betvoyager which are quite fair.

br
winkel

[hoper335]

I'm interested if it works on dozens/columns.


Ron.

[Twisteruk]

As Frasier would say,


"I'm listening" 

[winkel]

Hi,

I was thinking about how I could explain, how it was developed, but it seems to be too confusing.

So I decided just to give the formula:

example with dobule streets:

you can win maximum payout of 5 (11 for streets, 2 for doz/col)
so stretch the progression by 5
Use Fibonacci
stretch to table limits

e.g.

bet:
5 times 1
5 times 1
5 times 2
5 times 3
5 times 5
...
5 times table limit or nearest high Fibonacci-level

win limit:
choose the one you like:
1 unit or higher
the best I found so far
Double-Streets : 89
streets: 233


I use for doublestreets a length of 65 bets up to 233 units total of 3045 units needed

example for DS 31-36

Code Select Expand

12 6 1 1 -1
28 6 2 1 -2
17 6 3 1 -3
6 6 4 1 -4
16 6 5 1 -5
29 6 6 1 -6
5 6 7 1 -7
4 6 8 1 -8
11 6 9 1 -9
7 6 10 1 -10
20 6 11 2 -12
10 6 12 2 -14
25 6 13 2 -16
25 6 14 2 -18
23 6 15 2 -20
9 6 16 3 -23
32 6 17 Tr.TVS 3 -8
34 6 18 Tr.TVS 3 7
7 6 19 3 4
26 6 20 3 1
18 6 21 5 -4
0 6 22 5 -9
34 6 23 Tr.TVS 5 16
28 6 24 5 11
24 6 25 5 6
3 6 26 8 -2
0 6 27 8 -10
2 6 28 8 -18
20 6 29 8 -26
29 6 30 8 -34
4 6 31 13 -47
7 6 32 13 -60
25 6 33 13 -73
11 6 34 13 -86
23 6 35 13 -99
33 6 36 Tr.TVS 21 6
15 6 37 21 -15
35 6 38 Tr.TVS 21 90


[winkel]

If you start playing any DS so will find a losing streak once a day
to prevent of losing all wins and more select like this:

play the first 65 spins virtually and find out which one had lost
- most units
- highest turnover
- most less winback during play
- most less hits at all
- latest hit at all
one or more of this rules will do

start real money play at spin 66 or nearby


statistics next post

[winkel]

spins of Wiesbaden 31 days of january

1. table: results of all 6 DS (TvS) in first 65 spins:

Code Select Expand

Tag TvS 1 TvS 2 TvS 3 TvS 4 TvS 5 TvS 6
1 -2379 123 135 300 96 766
2 124 -1545 248 270 108 114
3 156 140 100 96 100 141
4 256 114 350 888 120 238
5 228 90 -1419 112 126 114
6 -2343 90 331 437 119 149
7 367 -2403 186 150 159 178
8 304 182 102 118 253 110
9 129 178 102 174 226 144
10 159 318 103 107 171 193
11 98 98 442 -1359 164 106
12 142 168 110 136 105 143
13 477 114 117 -1653 176 91
14 127 159 177 304 162 170
15 301 592 134 -2037 98 130
16 110 247 150 90 -2871 93
17 164 145 256 119 90 330
18 114 1070 105 106 170 148
19 122 169 90 123 103 178
20 220 104 -1617 96 150 90
21 112 110 757 -939 94 98
22 150 108 -1485 102 108 -1689
23 133 129 394 120 162 343
24 250 138 156 -2409 92 153
25 128 98 108 127 104 146
26 171 126 -1065 93 127 418
27 183 111 140 114 126 -39
28 109 103 132 125 450 110
29 148 111 138 165 182 272
30 166 296 106 138 176 -2157
31 104 121 129 94 -969 508


read:
day 1 we select DS 1
day 2 we select DS2

[winkel]

next table: results of spins 66-130

Code Select Expand

TvS 1 TvS 2 TvS 3 TvS 4 TvS 5 TvS 6
104 -3109 166 117 96 501
216 110 112 192 161 341
299 648 135 -3469 105 117
-2959 165 -601 108 132 162
120 96 95 -2701 114 93
250 212 100 285 517 108
119 246 171 -1357 124 244
588 -1693 228 94 109 370
160 130 109 102 144 159
258 96 138 122 114 147
250 310 135 190 176 98
-2863 114 1118 534 195 138
-703 137 236 171 126 120
120 195 90 94 -1153 918
883 778 369 168 155 116
138 185 -1879 92 130 118
90 93 96 376 124 119
150 242 94 396 195 90
496 190 254 120 102 122
-1201 183 582 146 90 102
108 157 321 98 114 96
230 331 422 121 617 212
192 283 220 120 106 95
1474 137 -2323 94 236 97
172 92 164 100 178 110
-2785 120 99 92 -1219 90
94 96 115 162 328 93
120 361 238 309 122 165
94 -1357 201 111 -1051 307
168 882 90 208 90 285
286 -1645 238 219 168 90


day 1 DS1: +104
day2 DS2: +110

[winkel]

second way to bet:

let your computer run todays first 65 spins to select and bet next day the first 65 spins at once with real money.

read table 1:  Day 1 selects DS 1
read results of day 2

this is the table of those results:

Code Select Expand

Tag TvS 1 TvS 2 TvS 3 TvS 4 TvS 5 TvS 6
1
2 124 0 0 0 0 0
3 0 140 0 0 0 0
4 0 0 0 0 0 0
5 0 0 0 0 0 0
6 0 0 331 0 0 0
7 367 0 0 0 0 0
8 0 182 0 0 0 0
9 0 0 0 0 0 0
10 0 0 0 0 0 0
11 0 0 0 0 0 0
12 0 0 0 136 0 0
13 0 0 0 0 0 0
14 0 0 0 304 0 0
15 0 0 0 0 0 0
16 0 0 0 90 0 0
17 0 0 0 0 90 0
18 0 0 0 0 0 0
19 0 0 0 0 0 0
20 0 0 0 0 0 0
21 0 0 757 0 0 0
22 0 0 0 102 0 0
23 0 0 394 0 0 343
24 0 0 0 0 0 0
25 0 0 0 127 0 0
26 0 0 0 0 0 0
27 0 0 140 0 0 0
28 0 0 0 0 0 110
29 0 0 0 0 0 0
30 0 0 0 0 0 0
31 0 0 0 0 0 508


no losses total of 4245 units

extracted table for bets at spin 66-130

Code Select Expand

TvS 1 TvS 2 TvS 3 TvS 4 TvS 5 TvS 6
104 0 0 0 0 0
0 110 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 95 0 0 0
250 0 0 0 0 0
0 246 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 190 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 171 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 168 0 0
0 0 0 0 130 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 582 0 0 0
0 0 0 98 0 0
0 0 422 0 0 212
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 94 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 99 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 93
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 285
0 0 0 0 168 0


no losses total of 3517

both ways played total of 7762 units

[winkel]

I donÃ,´t recomend this for doz/col anymore it is too expansive

here some results of the same strategy played on streets:
win limit 233
highest prog 11 times 89 units needed 2552

results january Wiesbaden played both ways:

Code Select Expand

day selected selected
yesterdays todays prev. total
1 0 339 339
2 339 316 994
3 261 332 1587
4 312 -1460 439
5 236 273 948
6 264 300 1512
7 298 -1220 590
8 346 430 1366
9 -1832 444 -22
10 384 -1412 -1050
11 267 459 -324
12 243 558 477
13 404 296 1177
14 -1064 413 526
15 530 246 1302
16 806 320 2428
17 258 493 3179
18 427 330 3936
19 264 518 4718
20 -800 242 4160
21 418 343 4921
22 369 441 5731
23 272 -764 5239
24 -1016 554 4777
25 326 1032 6135
26 334 401 6870
27 -1808 -1640 3422
28 472 441 4335
29 573 -1328 3580
30 297 1084 4961
31 -164 256 5053


pls note possible draw downs
total results 5053 units

february so far 2924 units

[F_LAT_INO]

Just a question that confuses me.
1x5 ...ect. to
233x5=3045 chips....are we betting this in continuation,regardles of occasional wins.

[winkel]

Just a question that confuses me.
1x5 ...ect. to
233x5=3045 chips....are we betting this in continuation,regardles of occasional wins.

As I said in another post:

we actually donÃ,´t play the chance (selected DS, street or doz) we play the progression until we reached our target