EXPERIMENTAL IDEAS FOR PRO PLAY

[XXVV]

I think once you have seen enough then its fairly simple. I dont think it is so hard to develop a winning bet, but if I count the hours invested to date it would be +20,000, well over the 5-10 years we are told is a requirement for any professional in any field.
It comes to the stage where I have several, and they are in groups.
The influence and hints from others who are very clever in their research also gets compacted into this moving snowball of experience of knowledge.
Then it is the money acquisition for risk capital and at the same time and preferably prior, the self management.
I remember a building where I learned so much , and above the proscenium arch was written :
"Know Thyself".
That is the essence of making any progress in any walk of life, not the least being professional play in roulette.
This requires massive trial and error experience and application.
Weave in the research of Daniel Kahneman and thus maintain a perpetual humility in your work for the instruments by which you have made your progress may be periodically distorted or flawed and all realisations must be tested and peer reviewed. Even then they may not be laws, but just glimpses into the mists.
Beware anyone who speaks with certainty about anything. Their reasons and reasoning may well be flawed.
Question everything.
Nevertheless, heuristics will give you the answers. If it works it works but set sensible parameters to trap and catch the hard won profit and dont throw it away again. The casinos with their game constants can be our allies.
I will set out these winning groups soon and give some specific examples. Why not.
Then the silly philosophical debates elsewhere can be seen as just so much mush.
There will come a time soon when there will be no need to write any more because all that needs to be said has nearly been said.
Then its up to you to make it work for you, to the degree, and the terms that you choose and tune.
The fancy parameters of how you distribute the profit can then be a luxury you may well reflect upon.
As the rich get much richer and most others just gradually slide back relatively, then it is time to be pro-active and generate and assemble your own wealth making machine to be fired up at will and wherever you deem suitable.
Thats where I am heading as soon as possible now after reading the latest research on wealth distribution in our brave new world and especially what is happening to world cities such as London.
More soon and its an exciting challenge about to begiin in 2012.

[strato1985]

I like reading it too xxvv

Discipline can divide winners from losers.

I still fail at times to leave at the height of my session even though i know when that is .

[XXVV]

As the 600th post is drawing near and passed it will be time to then take a break.
At this time there has been a fantastic surge in roulette knowledge and understanding and I am about to embark on a 3 month phase of  'the business of roulette' where commercial application of smart bets will be applied for a very aggressive return goal.
Parallel with my roulette work are other professional responsibilities but these are strange times not only locally ( very strange) but also internationally. In the US the ratio of super rich to the rest has not been so extreme since 1928. Then look what followed.
Likewise in London, the city is a money magnet, which can have indirect benefits but the super rich are just getting so much richer and the rest.... well they are vulnerable and becoming frustrated. What will happen next. Well as we are dealing with Uncertainty, the arts and science of roulette may be a good vehicle to apply.

Cash flow is now paramount but may soon be evermore paramount.
The method for such 'freedom' is available within the business of roulette.
Here are some characteristics of a suitable smart bet to apply commercially :
simplicity

reliability

forgiveness

high return in relation to expense

short cycle

proven commercial edge over a robust set of live data samples

small outlay

ability to leverage the bet return by means of compounding and/ or parlay

Then when applying commercial play :

maintain one primary technique

do not experiment or wander from your goal target method

pre-set win goal per session

set stop loss levels which are conservative

operate with substantial and multiple located risk banks, separated in space and time ( ie with 24 hour auto delay access and differeing locations).

know thyself.

With application of this approach you will enable postive cashflow which can be geared.
Should you wish to explore further or exchange / develop ideas either PM me or you can contact me by private personal email
palladioxxvv@yahoo.com

Best XXVV

[XXVV]

If you refer to the other threads you may see that I have been through a period of extra testing ( on all levels!!)


An outcome so as to set a realistic goal is to state that on the reverse bet I have found the most efficient place to quit is after 3 consecutive wins. After analysis of a statistically sound sample size I have found that at 3.27 bets is the mean of the distribution data.


Thus to quit at a short mini session to gain +5 units is very smart.


Then re-set and start when you wish.


Much play may be 'virtual'.


You go live at key signals based on massive test prior experience, knowing the bet characteristics.


Once you have a roughly b/ even bet, then start tuning the variables.


Best
XXVV

[XXVV]

In finales betting there are several options.


The simplest I call SFB and is simply the first repeat finale.


Flat stake and find by your own trial and error the best stoploss point and you will find a winning bet.


This can be further enhanced by recording a string of bet number outcomes and formulate a suitable over view by moving average or some such.


Do enough testing to find and know the fairly volatile bet characteristic then enter and exit with hit and run speed..


Good Hunting
XXVV


Its a lot of fun and you wont be wasting your time

[XXVV]

Sometimes I do make errors and will advise.


The SFB I tested for 1000 games which was about 5000 spins. That sample showed a positive edge.


The truth is that the test sample was way too small. It needed to be at least 10x larger.


So SFB is a curious cul de sac but has some interesting qualities. The fatal flaw is the volatility of the bet outcomes ( the bet numbers). These can range from 1 through to 9.


A distribution chart shows a first sample of my tests achieving a great result. Later random testing did not support that.


The principle to overcome the volatility is to 'dampen' the volatility by targeting 3 finales to repeat rather than 2 as prior. That gives my MFB ( multi finales bet) and is well worth study flat staking.


At times the SFB can give a string of good results and you can follow a corrective series with a trigger and one or two wins but is slow and tricky. Not a smart bet.


Study the MFB ( mentioned elsewhere) and you will find that has real merit and is more stable and consistent enabling you to tweek the variables.


Am also exploring the idea of hybrid bets where two or more are joined to add to consistency.


More soon. Best XXVV

[XXVV]

MFB works on average in 10 spin cycles so 100 spins will usually give 10 games.


I have found this to be a part smart bet.


I do not believe it has a permanent edge but can have long win streaks and the returns can be great if there are 3 finale targets or less.


You can flat stake and probably stop loss if 5 targets or more or say 13 bets or more.


I have found that in testing many 100 spin cycles a gain of + 80 units or more can be achieved.


Should you be interested in more research on this and two way exchange of ideas you can PM me.


Best


XXVV

[XXVV]

Sorry that there has been a pause between my posts but will start to build a new momentum now.


I will be posting some seed ideas which are based on already demonstrated success and which will need to be further tuned and tested so will appreciate any assistance in due course.


Lets look at exploring Reverse Bets and the most efficient ways of achieving consistent profit.


I will give some examples soon of this with Dozens and then Columns.


It will be optional to cover zero but for high unit staking, it is best to allow a conservative cover bet.


More soon.

[XXVV]

Will be posting some more detail to follow in the coming week.

However in essence here is some food for thought and I will give worked examples next week.


Target two consecutive wins to end a mini session.


Each win will give you +2 units on the RB.


I have found the ideal statistically efficient place to quit is between +4 and +5 units.


By taking profit on achieving this you can string together a long run of winning mini-sessions.


More next week


XXVV

[XXVV]

A mini-session may be just a few spins and achieving say +5 units. the session matrix characteristics may still be monitored but fall away so you close that session.


So you then move to say another table and start a new mini session with a new matrix. Again step aside once you attained +5 units.


Occasionally a streak may push to say +15 before correction. So go with the flow and consolidate profit though at every step.


Steer clear of mini-sessions where the matrix gives warning signals.


More soon, and will expand some thoughts on attack signals.

[XXVV]

While free for a few days from the pressures of the past year it is a window of opportunity to write and literally throw some ideas around in the Forum.

You may find I contradict myself from time to time, but that merely demonstrates that I am moving forward and from time to time change my mind. Refer Nassim Taleb.

To me roulette is a very different game from that which I studied 12 months ago.

In the past few days I have used the Forum to post on 3 or 4 threads and I must express gratitude to the goodwill of writers/ players like JL who are always encouraging and always themselves moving forward.

I am very excited about the status of the game of roulette and I see several ways through the mists to achieve quite spectacular short sequence gains.

This is the Experimental Thread so I can shorthand some ideas here.

If you have questions or queries you can ask me for clarification.

These are the ways I now approach the game:

Aggressive and confident attack attitude to play in general.

But first read the game and check at least three familiar sets of data to assess the mode- is it friendly, neutral or hostile.

I rate the likelihoods using my methods or the methods I have assembled, as friendly as high or low and 1 out of 10 as high and 2 out of 10 as low/ mild friendly.

So that is 30% outcomes friendly. Those games can be extended for max profit.

50% of outcomes are neutral and can go either way so get a out with a profit asap.

That leaves 2% as hostile. With these get out with minimum loss.

As good writers have advised one of the arts of roulette is to mitigate loss. In so doing you will be a winner.

I now try to hook profit with two attacks that operate in two dimensions or at 80 degrees, ie clusters of streets and clusters of favourable wheel sections. Where these overlap then you can attack in short bursts and take fast profit.

If successful then back off and close the mini session.

Over a working day you may have 3-5 mini sessions.

But never play if tired, or becoming weary, or sensing that the tide has turned. If you need to prove it and smile then scale down your bets. Most often this will be the case and you can rejoice you stopped when you did.

Soon I will provide some specific sets from live sessions and you can see what I am stating.

On other threads I have tried to state what may to some of you appear nonsense. I have planted the seeds. You start with linear, concrete, rational analysis, and on some days you may work entirely in that mode.

On other days the rational play can lead into intuitive over view based on your vast experience and testing knowledge of your bet characteristics. This play can go to the fuzzy logic lvel, and at times, given real preparation you can move to higher levels of analysis, intuition and guidance from subtle levels. You can work with others to focus your energies.

I know. I have done it with extraordinary results. Over a 2 hour period a few months ago working with an international group of helpers I turned 60 units into 980 units by the end. It was not without challenges and tests, but I have done this now on several occasions so that I know it is no accident. You can really focus if you know how and you are helped.

Not always will this be triumphant and part of the knowledge is to know when you should leave or even start.

There we move into levels which are subjective, partly metaphysical, and yet fundamental with this approach is to ensure detachment. Do not use funds required and needed elsewhere, and feel free and postive. then you will attract positive fresh free money to be re-distributed in society.

To me now roulette and casinos may just be one example of where this knowledge can be applied, but to me its a great place to start with many variables actually in your favour and known and limited.

More on this subject soon.

Best XXVV

[catalyst]

I now try to hook profit with two attacks that operate in two dimensions or at 80 degrees, ie clusters of streets and clusters of favourable wheel sections. Where these overlap then you can attack in short bursts and take fast profit.

Dear XXVV
I am a fanatic of wheel sectors. could you please explain the above quote in your frame work theory? much appreciated. 
thanks
catalyst

[XXVV]

Dear Catalyst

Thanks for your enquiry. I am pleased you are a fanatic. That helps.

Sections of the wheel are very useful for analysis and reading of the game. There are of course the great classical wheel sections which are aptly named and for some reason people do seem to take a reverential attitude toward zero.

That is an essay in itself because it is just another number on the wheel, yet its nothing as well. It forces 36 an even number to move into the uncertainty of 37 numbers in a cycle. So where do you split 18 or 19 or do you ignore zero and treat it as invisible.

I respect all these views and I do both, revere and ignore!

On a subtle level zero is mystical and in many traditions links material to spiritual, and shows the connection, the way.

Well what does all that have to do with winning at roulette? Actually a considerable amount because the table and its players and dealers give a lot of 'weight' to zero.
Psychologically, and also as a reference point. Also an energy focus.

One of my methods taught to me by a brilliant mathematician and statistician, used the French wheel ( lets ignore the pesky 00 layout although we can handle that easily  but by other means), and formed 4 sets of 9 numbers. Lets call them A,B,C and D. Later I adapted his number set ideas and applied them to the wheel layout as well as the table layout.

I centred the A section on zero and then just moved around the wheel. Curiously the number 1 falls between C and D, so in a way I call that my 'zero' and ignore it , or in real play load it whenever C and D cluster. It is part of the Cluster Theory.

A dealer once told me 1 is one of the least popular numbers on the table, but it has its uses for me.

I won't go into the technical detail here, as this is a framework discussion, but suffice to say I read the performance of the wheel sets, and overlap say the sets I have derived for finales, or say table layout streets. Sometimes it is like a target. You get a fix. And over a few spins in a short cycle that random generates there may be astonishing opportunities revealed.

By looking just below the surface it is astonishing what can be revealed in your reading of the game.

Massive testing and sampling is needed to know the performance parameters and bet characteristics you form, so you can tell when its hot or not.

We are looking for the signs.

Then you can strike swiftly. Get in and get out. On rare occasions, and those are golden, the cycle gets stuck.

About 5 months ago I had such an occurrence at a rapid roulette table. The dealer grooved into the 16 to14 area. I was fortunate to encounter a triple 1, and with each bet repeated the earlier bet by hitting the repeat button and kept adding.

100 unit starter ended with 1000 units over a ten spin phase.

I cashed out and went to a $5 unit table and used half the previous profit for a bank. Curiously at that table 14 and neighbours was hot and I struck several picture bet hits on 14 ( +103 units), and ended a golden couple of hours turning 100 into 2500 units.

It was a special opportunity which I seized, but only through being able to read the wheel sections in particular. On that occasion I was 'in the zone'.

At other times there can be a grouping of A finales or D streets etc. You can figure what that means, but there are often opportunities if you know how and where to look.

And that's just at one level.

Hope this helps and provides an incentive for your further successful research.

I will be signing off now for a while as work pressures call and I will not have very much time for writing probably until Christmas.

Time accelerates in my perception anyway, from now on, at this time of year, so I will keep you posted with research and play progress and publish some live game samples soon to provoke further thought.

If you have questions you can message me and I will endeavour to respond when possible.

Best XXVV

[XXVV]

Greetings


This is the first opportunity to write after re-travels are completed.


As promised I am producing a sequence of numbers from the live casino. The first will be from ten days ago, and the second from a couple of hours ago live.


The first example illustrates the extraordinary and beautiful short symmetries that sometimes occur from random generation of numbers, ie the roulette wheel.


Here is a useful hint. Sometimes when a number has repeated it, I target it in a short cycle  ( not necessarily direct one after the other but say twice in 37 spins).


In this case 0 became a target......


26
27
0
0
11
6
24
23
16
18


then


0  so 0 was hit but wait there's more!
5
9
5


what do you think came next  9 or 5/ or neighbours or zero.


it was....


0   !!!!!  loaded to the gunwhales with chips.


then


26  !!!!


this was one of those opportunities where you can make a thousand dollars cash free and positive money!!!




also in the same session it was clear repeats were appearing and note the following varieties of rich pickings....


12
20
27
17
17
16
3
1
8
24
24
6
18
6
8


.......


then to todays numbers


again there were a lot of repeats but this sample illustrates how I cross target to strike with a more efficient and aggressive bet....


4
28
4
34
36
3
23
30
0
33
8
1
20.....


the way I play is to use zero as my treasure galleon. I load it so that when we hit it is a suitable place to take profit and run.




look at the number outcomes and you will see a run of AC wheel section cluster ( as described earlier) and mixed with a target likely of a C streets ( described earlier) , ie 33 and 20. ( 1 is a neighbour)


Today I played 3 relatively short sessions and achieved returns in relation to Risk Bank, of 65%.  70% and  68%.


Hit and run. Closing a session after say 20-30 live spins after pre-monitoring say 30 spins.


Question me if you need explanations but herein you will find some powerful techniques which can be easily managed.


I will be writing more very soon on the subject of "free money" and "positive money".


This latter may change the face of society in coming years, and the casino is one place where it can be accessed. Our new inter-connected 'wired' society is going to enable the science of money to start being explored and understood by all, not just a tiny minority as is the current state.


This is a very powerful secret about to be revealed.


It is quite fantastic that roulette can be one of the best means to access and provide the consistent returns this new understanding will enable.


Much to be very excited about!  Will continue this thread later in the coming week. Christmas is coming!


Best XXVV

[XXVV]

Am working on some brilliant ideas with trusted colleagues. These ideas are extremely exciting and  in due course after appropriate testing I will introduce these, in an appropriate format, to the Forum.


Thesis :  There are methods to consistently improve bet efficiency and to achieve positive net returns in spite of the casino edge. Goal is to enable compounding of net average returns. There will still be losing sessions but the adverse effects can be mitigated and the positive effects can be magnified.


Implicit in this will also be the need for increased levels of self awareness and self management in order to enable compounding session by session of positive net returns.


It is essential to know when to overview, stop,  and when to start,  and again when to stop.


In other words it is about reading the game flow, selecting a target and then attacking that target, preferably flat staking. A recommended target goal, a percentage return that falls within key parameters, is set and attained, in cases usually about 7-8 successes for 1 loss.


That is what we are striving to achieve and enable others to benefit also.


More soon.


XXVV