EXPERIMENTAL IDEAS FOR PRO PLAY

[XXVV]

I think we can take that a step further now in practical terms, and not just theory or idealism.


Sometimes it is expedient, pragmatic, to write off a small loss and re-set to step one, or end the session.


For example on the W  Progression if a hit is achieved on the 7th or 8th attempt, then the net loss is only -4, or -5.


This can easily be mopped up in two or three successful hits on a new  sequence.


Loss tends to attract loss so a sensible target of say +10 to +20 units could be accumulated and then you could exit without ever having to go into a detailed recovery procedure, although it is there if needed.


That's real smart play and the unit values can be higher.

[XXVV]

Progressions have their uses, particularly if the selection of the bet is smart, rather than dumb.


However, better still, is the world of flat bets.


If the effect of zero can be neutralised, or mitigated, or enhanced ( controlled in some form) then the door is open to flat bets as long as the profit is taken when opportunity presents.

[XXVV]

Simply play zero onward with an independent bank from your other play.


It is very very hard for the casino to beat a player who targets just one inside table number and rolls the experience from one session to the next, re-setting only when the zero is hit.


It is extraordinary how most misunderstand zero and of all the numbers on the table it is the only one that can elegantly and alone cover the outside table bets, rather than going to the messy complexities of other options.


It is so simple.

[XXVV]

Going to do some studies on Zero and will be happy to post some of this in due course.


As usual, am trying 'the impossible' with managing an 'independent' bank for Zero that can occasionally interact with the 'independent' bank for outside table bets.


The way I work is to think aloud at times and share my view sometimes and encourage contributions on the open threads.

[XXVV]

I will be adding some notes soon on 'reading' the game and in particular trying to measure that 'force' that varies in intensity which binds together numbers and can encourage repeats and clustering behaviour - a whirlpool within the random behaviour swirls.


Through careful measuring of results some useful statistical data can be assembled which will give you useful benchmarks for assessing performance of your bet.


More soon

[XXVV]

I have found through practice and testing that we need to know inside out the characteristics of the bet we are using. It will have its unique character which will express in a range of parameters unlike any other bet.


If its a smart bet it will have a resonance point, a 'sweet spot', where it peaks in performance and results will range around that high point. Thus it may also have a weak point or weakness.


My current work involves, once knowing the bet well, and considering it worthy of extra effort, and measuring the returns and the nature of those returns, ie short cycle, bigger cycle, small, ie +5 units, or larger, say +100 units, then taking an overview. This involves looking at the start and stop of the bet.


The bet may be able to be pre-qualified. Because of the true nature of roulette, there will be times when the bet will be performing well below expectations. this is because the Ecart is running adverse.


At other times the signs will be good, and the 'virtual' testing and characteristics we like are all present and correct. Then we can start the live play.


Avoid the Gambler's Fallacy however that just because a bet is running negative that it will be 'due for correction'.


Instead you are seeking the signs of a consistent cycle, and not the reversal of a negative.


Also consider your exit strategies. Let the profits run and dont stop until you see clear evidence of the streak faltering- it may be 10,20,30% off its peak and that is relative to the duration of the accumulated profit run.


By applying these start and stop procedures, you will more than double your usual expected profits and may instead more than triple them.


Remember the saying from Macao - ' the winners play like frightened worms and the losers play like bold dragons'.  Such psychology is music to the ears of Steve Wynn.


Reverse it!

[XXVV]

While waiting for the mystical alignment of the the planets that signals the start of my campaign, the time remaining available has enabled me to overview several of the methods I use in live real casino play.


The relative value of 'time' is one of the keys.


There are several ways to fail in the casino, and one of the most frequent is misuse of time.


Whether through prior loss, or greed, or naivety, or other outside priorities, the lack of focus on the 'now' and the need to hurry are all potent contributors to potential catastrophic failure and loss of a bank.


When researching data we can process spins at many times faster than real live play. This can be dangerous when we go the real time live play because we have not been trained for the duration of real time sessions and the need for (sometimes extreme) patience.


On the plus side, the speed of research ( accelerated time) can allow for overviews not available to the usual patron at the wheel.


Just one such principle is the concept of 'moving average' which is an indirect way of measuring the Ecart when applied to clusters of spin data that may be games or subsets of games that can be measured.


What I have recently found is the amazing ability of such tools and such principles to cover several bets ( in my case say the D+C bets, and families of repeating numbers). They transcend and apply to lots of situations because in common the bets are all directed by the state of the Ecart.


By applying the measure of a moving average to say game duration ( say number of spins to close a game or number of 'targets' in a game that exceed the norm) or outcome it is possible to see the Ecart swing within the parameters you will have noted through your research. That is why you have to know the characteristics of your bets through massive research.


This is a real swing, and not a wish 'mirage' such as Gamblers Fallacy.


By applying this principle, and having mastery over time, yes you need to be a Time Lord just about to do this, then net profits can be multiplied through the use of patience and/or timing - that is knowing when to start and when to stop.


There will be times when some methods may remain dormant while being observed virtually, but when the signs are there and they can be eventually applied - in a sensible short cycle burst with realistic goals - then the net improvement in efficiency is stunning. Also to know when and how to let the profits run is essential for maximum efficiency.


That is why we need a catalogue of say half a dozen methods to apply when we arrive to seriously play and then it is a matter of our increasingly trained judgment when to apply what for the best results (within reason).


Food for thought.


Best XXVV

[XXVV]

There are amazing opportunities to construct consistently profitable flat staking bets right under our noses. You just have to look in the right place. Its a matter of finding a thread, a link like a detective looking for clues.


I have been quite specific in assisting genuine research and you have to be clear, logical and self honest in your appraisals and evaluations.


Over the past 12 months I have found several ways and it has been achieved through focus and concentration on key areas, one at a time.


Those idiotic scammers have wasted a lot of people's time and money but one area they did provide good advice toward was in reversals.  When a bet consistently fails, and if it can be reversed, there may be an opportunity for clusters of wins.


We have to understand that the Ecart/Equilibre forces are universal and its like the tide moving in and out with natural rhythm.


Timing our entry and exit is critical and there are some bets smarter than others.


The D+C matrix is an interesting case in point, and with care and focus, that bet can be reversed when appropriate. By selecting a smarter bet that is one that can be flat staked. Then profit is taken in short cycles.


The matrix methods have their uses for attack in short bursts.


You have to really know and understand your bets and it is through the study of live results that progress can be made.


Then you can turn your attention to the phenomenon of repeats. There are ways to trap small groups and that research is done through heuristics.


From that you can look at finales and repeats there.


Right under our noses and sometimes in the simplest forms there are gems waiting to be mined in serious and professional roulette play.


You don't need vague and long texts that drop hints that tantalise, or complex methods that add stress and require massive bankrolls for small occasional returns until the progression goes awry.


There are times to research, and there are times to dream, but there comes a phase where it is time to get real and make these ideas work.


So instead look specifically where I have suggested and do your research. That in the past 12 months I have found three areas of successful flat staked bets, suggests to me there are a lot more out there, and it requires a paradigm shift to see this.

[Skakus]

A very good post XXVV.

II LIKELIKE ITIT!

[XXVV]

Thanks my friend.


I am glad you understood what I was trying to say.


Very soon I have extended travel for the rest of the year but this has been an astonishing three months in work, research and results.


Best


XXVV

[XXVV]

Nothing offends me more than a betrayal of trust.


When trust is built up over a period of time and then without warning ( or at least perceived warning) the rug is pulled, then it hurts.


That is what happened with the people involved in the W.3. M scam.


It still astonishes me and hurts me that so much confidence was placed in the words of wisdom that came out of 'Switzerland', or cloud cuckoo-land.


Fraudsters and confidence tricksters use our wishes as their target because they know cynically that what we really want will over ride wisdom, experience and common sense. In hindsight we should have known better perhaps.


Most upsetting of all to me was the vision and goal of using a percentage of group profits to assist ventures, seed capital funds, and communities, and help one another; an idealistic and Aquarian vision of mutual caring and respect, and then dumping it. It was all a pre meditated lie. Those responsible will be caught and they will be severely punished on many many levels.


Puzzling, yet part of that pre-meditated construction of trust was some comment and advice in principle which when threaded together was quite valuable when taken further.


The fraudsters could never have achieved their claimed skill in construction of winning bets, for with that knowledge, every day would be payday and there would be no need to steal 3million GBP from the public, for that was the cold irony of that title. Evidently they always intended the target and bag to be that sum.


Very sick and very sad black comedy indeed.


However there is always a silver lining to a cloud, and this is no cliche for it is a true life principle that intended evil intent will have ultimately positive outcomes, just as light always follows darkness.


Nothing is sadder than individuals ( and I have known some) who still attempt to believe the fraudsters will reveal all, or that their hints were deeply meaningful and that somehow by piecing the jigsaw of revelations the answers will all come clear and into focus.

We can be sure that will not happen.


The hints were often old, borrowed and blue, or childish, arrogant and circular.


However in spite of their inane suggestions there were principles below the surface that did have value, and here several can be listed. In order to make these work though it is work that is needed.


The trap was that everyone wanted easy answers. There are no easy answers unless you work backwards once you have reached various goal levels and then you wonder why others could not see the links and the connections and the paths.


The money management discussion was great and the pressing of bets was fine, but it was not original thought.


The reversal of a losing bet was a practical idea when it could be applied and illustrated some lateral thinking, but again it was not original.


Analysis of results was excellent advice but who would know that it would require at least 100,000 spins of live data to be robust. Who would be prepared to commit to such study?


Flat staking is first class professional advice but could they do it?  Maybe in very small short cycles.
The so called PPPC Bet which is so simplistic ( as published here through one kind professional who was spat at by some Forum posters here - you know who you are - for his trouble ) enables small gains , but it is a grind. that's all they had.


The vaguest hint of all, noting something that should happen more often but did not, was about short cycle deviations, the swing of the Ecart, that differed from long term results.


The good news is that there are lots of bets that can be made to work - it just needs the effort , the focus, the will and the help of our subconscious minds, and more.


There has been much great work done on "Quantum Interaction" and "fuzzy logic". "Much of our thinking operates on a largely unconscious level where thought follows a less restrictive logic and forms lose associations between concepts."- refer New Scientist September 2011 - Your Quantum Mind. By pulling together these  concepts mentioned above and trying them in various areas, progress will be made and I have specifically referred elsewhere to several that are worthy of further attention.


Quantum Physics and Hilbert Mathematics give insights into a reality at a certain scale that is very different to classical physics, classical logic, and tidy probablity theory expectations.


Over millions of years yes, but what of this year. What about a modest 1 in 10,000 year earthquake that completely transforms a landscape, or a city. Our civilisation is so young, even the explosions of a few thousands ago are clouded in myth yet on today's wired planet we would be in very big trouble.


Quantum thinking looks at context, looks at state vector, has its own logic and can provide answers where we previously had been told there were none.


I like the word 'transformation' and when data/ spin data is transformed  ( just changed to another level of order or organisation) and we can talk about bets within bets, or layers of bets, then we are getting somewhere.


A moving average is one such overlay transformation and it can be applied in many ways to measure change, after being adapted from financial markets and trading.


Those fools in cuckoo land did not have that technical knowledge or any conscience, or anything that was really of any worth in isolation, and we need to leave them well behind, finally, in the dust.


Best


XXVV

[XXVV]

Moving on, past the nonsense of 12 months ago it has all turned very differently from the scammer's attempts to bring a group of like minded individuals to play professional quality roulette. Then to move to other levels in an idealistic model which in his case will turn into a personal nightmare, but which is entirely achievable for those with clear intentions.


Because of that fraud it fired my attention to a 12 month quest for methodologies that work and also to work with other individuals who have a shared passion for roulette. How else could you become a professional? The time and energy and costs involved are so considerable.


That quest has now reached a very interesting stage and there are certainly several 'families' of bets that have been raked over and in several instances genuine worthwhile bets have been developed and in some cases are still being developed.


Always grateful to this Forum for maintaining a high level of quality and control, and with gratitude to its many participants, I would like to offer a worthy bet which is a part of one of the above mentioned families.


On this and other threads I have spoken of Finales and thanks to some participants for providing links to one of my friends to answer the question of definition of that French word in its plural form.


As we have found whenever you research a bet, you have to test results to observe the behaviour of the bet in a broad sample which is at least a statistically significant sample.  At minimum you will need several thousand spins to sample test.


A robust sample would be +10,000 spins. You have to know and understand your bet.


This bet is very simple in appearance but can be tricky. However the parameters are known and I recommend that it be played with a progression and a suitable stop-loss for the extreme events.


Object is to have a finale appear for a third time in a session, and the play to trap that outcome is triggered by a second appearance of that finale. Before the eventual third appearance though there may be other finale groups ( e.g. if the target is 1, there may be other groups such as 7 or 0).


Testing has shown that in 50% of all winning outcomes,  two finales may appear ( yes that's all!).


In fact in about 30% of outcomes only one finale appears before the win, given a suitable sample size.


In 75% of all winning outcomes three finales appear.


In 90% of all winning outcomes four finales appear.


Of the ten finales, the frequency of eight finales appearing before a win, seems to be 1 in 50 by heuristics.


So the scene is set for a series of short progressions and with a stop-loss suggested at say the appearance of (say)the sixth finale, then a steady accumulation of profit should be probable with the occasional correction as a kind of tax.


By trial and error you could set up an experiment, and even with tight parameters, say the appearance of a fourth or fifth finale, you could flat stake to reduce risk exposure.


The bet is simple, fast, and results in lengthy winning streaks of finales outcomes of less than five varieties.


If you are interested this will require great care and of course it's not quite as simple or easy as it appears but it is well worth the effort. The world of Finales is fascinating.


Good Hunting
XXVV

[catalyst]

Dear XXVV
Couple of months before I was playing finales and I agree to you it is very fascinating. I was adding and dropping finales on my way one by one with the spinning. Adding and dropping means carrying finale upto next four spins to be hit and if not hit by then, then dropping it at the end of its length. A slow progression was used and each of the progression level was further subdivided nine times and the whole progression was carried out from finale to finale until a hit and then, only then was reset. I was pocketing casino consistently.

Your current research is fascinating and my eyes are glued to it for the improvement of my method. 
thanks
Catalyst

[Lady K]

I too... find Finales fascinating. I'm very interested.   

[XXVV]

The Finales are a remarkable set of opportunities. There are several ways of attacking them and they appear simple but caution is needed.
At this stage wrt the last bet suggestion I am taking care with large sample testing to assess the 'true' parameters. This is easier said than done of course (lol) because we really need about 10,000 spins worth! And as always our first samples tend to be optimistic ( more lol).
Will update soon. Thanks for the interest shown in this.
XXVV