BEYOND COMMON SENSE

[Johnlegend]

There are further refinements which can be added.


I have reviewed 30,000 live spins from the casino where I am now based and as these were played by me over the past2-3 years I trust the data and the recording and it is tested session by session - note not added seamlessly.


By analysis of these results asking key questions I look at distribution curves of data and can heuristically arrive at most efficient bet parameters in fine tuning for extra percentage points.


One way for example is that in flat staking the reverse bet I have found that the most efficient place to stop and take profit is after 3.27 consecutive wins, thus achieving an average +6 units.


In other words quit at +5


Then re-set and re-start after a pause.


Work at (eventually) higher value units to make your efforts really pay off at all levels.


R
XXVV

Beautiful thread XXVV. If only we could transplant this common sense into the minds of more players.

[XXVV]

Thanks


I really do appreciate that JL referenced my earlier comments.


I can say some months down the track that the RB bet played flat staking and aiming for a +5 strike is a conservative and efficient way to play professionally.


With other methods where I have tried to be too clever on inside betting there can be nasty adverse runs because I have tried to be too specific.


A generic bet covering a dozen outcomes is sufficiently loose and forgiving and you can achieve a more consistent and safer edge.


You can gradually build up unit values based on accumulated profits.


Modest gains and patience is a formula for beating roulette.


More detail soon - this is designed to whet the appetite for what is to come.


Bon Appetit!  XXVV

[amk]

You are a great chef XXVV

[XXVV]

Recall that the RB can be applied to both dozens and columns.


Sometimes these can cross target when say a mid dozen combines with a mid column and we target 14, 17, 20, 23.


I had a stunning game yesterday ( I was too weary to play it as well as I should have) where these central column targets also co -related with what I term A streets, ie streets 1-3, 13-15, 25-27. all in second and third dozens.


So for 20 spins there was a 'tendency toward' 14  and 26.

These numbers appeared as a hot streak (with occasional neighbour).


Such is the way with Roulette - there are times when a grouping clusters and can provide literally the opportunity to make thousands in profit when you are alert to it.

I mentioned my weary state as it had been a very long session and I was taking in a lot of data but my fitness was not as it should have been to take full advantage. After a meal and time to digest, I returned to the same table and identified 5 or 16 as potential cross hair targets. 5 came up immediately and doubled!

It is a major topic just how you manage your attention and intelligence.

Best
XXVV

[amk]

Hello XXVV!


Interesting post. I had been looking into 1 dozen and 1 column betting, called it 1D1C.


I believe it is important for players to test their "intuitive" betting, not applying specific systems. I don't think many players do, if any?? Flat betting only, maybe a progression but more risky. Its a lot of fun. I myself have not tested a lot but when I did you can get into a flow. On RNG I would click and observe the number board and place bets at certain points based on the fluctuations of R/B.


Is it then just luck?

[XXVV]

As stated,  'Luck (fortuna) favours the prepared mind!'


On that basis to be in a ready state with a growing confidence (but not over-confidence) is imperative, and to be able to read opportunities and then apply your bet attack, having understood the characteristics of your bet through exhaustive testing ( +20,000  live spins if possible), flat staking where possible - this will provide a tendency toward an edge over the house to neutralise their advantages.


Remember one great advantage we have is to stop and start at will.


Avoid the adverse passages and ideally climb on when your bet is moving into the desired zone.


Sounds easy, and that is actually the easiest bit.


The hard part is managing your own nature, and learning to self control through massive trial and error. If it takes 50,000 spins to demonstrate your bet characteristic, think how many spins it takes to learn to master your emotions, intelligence, and personality traits - some of which may yet be undeveloped and immature. Our worst immaturities may actually be invisible to us, and these 'black holes' will require the assistance of a trusted friend in order to be made visible and dealt with.


The touchy subject of ability to handle compulsive tendencies is a major one for any player in the markets or tables, where judgment calls are critical.


I will state repeatedly that it is essential to limit your exposure until you grow in strength and self knowledge and self control, in order to learn to become a successful professional.


In such work a small team, or trusted friends, used in suitable ways, can be valuable.


Hope this assists.


XXVV

[amk]

Great post XXVV, thank you.




I agree, by acknowledgeding our character traits we move to a higher level.


Ironically, this might be the only way to move to a higher level 


At least for me at the moment........

[XXVV]

Yes amk


I view Roulette as a Matrix which although simpler ( fewer variables) than the complexities of Nature, is nevertheless a microcosm of the World.


The application of self knowledge and appropriate humility are useful disciplines in approaching professional play. They represent two from a catalogue that goes for many pages....


I still believe it is one of the hardest calls to state that 'I want to be a professional in this discipline of roulette'. It operates on so very many levels. But the term 'professional', elsewhere so well defined, is totally applicable, although in this case dealing with random outcomes generated within a set of parameters that usually consist of 37 variables.


I have noticed that some local casinos are slipping in a second zero amongst the Euro wheel set out in order to extract a little more edge over the punters. Their application is often at the lower value denominations and falsely rationalise their move that it is subsidising 'cheap' play. Just another trap, like showing "data" on the screens which can be easily misunderstood. All traps for the unwary.


Back to' the professional 'approach. In my other life it has taken many years of study and application to be able to synthesise and handle architecture. At this stage I have only scratched the surface but I do know the best give total dedication and passion to their quest, and that is lifelong. In fact if the truth be known, it is many lifetimes.


Thus in roulette, where we are frequently flung as many curved balls as an Ace Pitcher for the NY Yankees, how we handle challenges is the question.


Just as in Life, how do you handle your powerful emotions, or setbacks or failures.


The best motivational speakers or teachers or pastors can give us answers here and I listen to as much advice as possible. In fact increasingly so.


As they say, when the student is ready, he/ she listens......


Hope this assists,


Off to the table now....


Best XXVV

[XXVV]

Greetings


Much has unfolded in recent weeks, in response to some of the ideas and words I have recently used. Words do have such power.


One such word is 'matrix' and this subject has taken totally unexpected directions thanks to the work now being conducted with some of my close colleagues, and applied to professional roulette play.


I am unable to go into great detail at this stage but the steps we are taking are quite extraordinary and actually enable a Quantum level of observation to a bigger picture in such a way that real energy is experienced, as the term matrix implies in some ordered format.


Apply this to the relatively fixed variables  of roulette and the implications are extremely exciting.


In essence what I have been seeking, at all levels, is to find methodology/ technique/ discipline to achieve greater efficiency and effectiveness in professional play.


I will be able to go into more detail in steps in due course.


In the meantime, good hunting!


Best
XXVV

[XXVV]

Ahhh.... those fresh clear waters Beyond Common Sense!

Trying to break out of some self imposed shackles now. And will be listing some key principles with short explanations that make up my equation for success.

One of the first will be any ever greater ability to accurately 'read the game'.

Then to apply a bet but know its characteristics after massive prior real testing ( not random.org). Must be live real data.

Make and engineer an ever more efficient and effective bet.

Set the bet traps to catch your target within appropriate limits. More on this soon.

It is so exciting and the good news is that this roulette 'challenge' is really a gift and can and should be most often taken with the right attitude. It is free positive money and as such free money should be used to access it. This requires detachment. More on this soon.

Goal is a compounding daily average return of +10% per day!  Based on you risk bank exposure. Compounding.

Too ambitious?   Why no!

More soon. XXVV

[Johnlegend]

Ahhh.... those fresh clear waters Beyond Common Sense!

Trying to break out of some self imposed shackles now. And will be listing some key principles with short explanations that make up my equation for success.

One of the first will be any ever greater ability to accurately 'read the game'.

Then to apply a bet but know its characteristics after massive prior real testing ( not random.org). Must be live real data.

Make and engineer an ever more efficient and effective bet.

Set the bet traps to catch your target within appropriate limits. More on this soon.

It is so exciting and the good news is that this roulette 'challenge' is really a gift and can and should be most often taken with the right attitude. It is free positive money and as such free money should be used to access it. This requires detachment. More on this soon.

Goal is a compounding daily average return of +10% per day!  Based on you risk bank exposure. Compounding.

Too ambitious?   Why no!

More soon. XXVV

Hello XXVV, I totally agree about favouring live or at least a real RNG over random.org. There is something not right about the kind of patterns and runs it produces. One method I have been working on of late. To be called 8 on 1. Is based around what I believe is a virtual limit of random. Its inability to string together 8 gaps of 4 on a single dozen. Example below. This may be be one of the most playable virtual limits we will ever find. Most of the time random cannot even show us 4 of these before it has to develope to a longer gap of 5 or more. And I am already testing real and on the BV rng with great success.

-----DOZEN 1
-----03
-----22
-----31
-----33
-----12----FIRST 4 GAP
-----23
-----23
-----36
-----07----SECOND 4 GAP
-----00
-----21
-----27
-----11----THIRD 4 GAP
-----20
-----24
-----30
-----03----FOURTH 4 GAP
-----29
-----28
-----19
-----08----FIFTH 4 GAP--------------COMMON LIMIT
-----18
-----35
-----18
-----05----SIXTH 4 GAP
-----26
-----25
-----32
-----10----SEVENTH 4 GAP
-----15
-----33
-----24
-----01----EIGTH 4 GAP--------VIRTUAL LIMIT OF RANDOM.

Most games never go beyond the fifth consecutive 4 gap.live and at BV I have never encountered anything beyond six consecutive 4 gaps. And this is holding with uncanny consistency. I just thought I would share my latest work With you XXVV. Maybe some food for thought.

Highest regards JL...

[XXVV]

Thanks JL this is most exciting.

You know we can soon probably list a few very special methods and view them as a wonderful arsenal from which to select the best and most appropriate to use on the current opportunities presented for us in our reading of the game live spin outcomes.

Lets include the best of your works, and this latest method; then we have the remarkable D+C ( and I play it in its reversed form- the Reverse Bet); Mr Flatino's latest work which I am advised has wonderful results; and then an array of my own favourites - some of which I have to maintain secrecy upon because it is a colleague's special insight; and some that use finales clusters or table street patterns or wheel section patterns ( all short term opportunities).

The choice of which method to use will also be influenced by available resources, time, and the goal that we seek in return profit.

The general advice fron Kanzen, and others, to get in and out as quickly as possible, is very valuable. I call it accrual from mini-sessions.

Also to remember the big overall aim. You are running your own banking operation. Why do anything to undermine the massive and worthy goal of compounding interest.

A certain detachment is thus essential.

See the big picture and compound daily. Acknowledge there will be occasional small setbacks but generally the way forward is clear and the compounding operation can achieve what I believe to be +10% of your risk bank daily ( average gain), by playing say no more than 3 mini sessions per day.

Set the bar high! Why not and create, then re-distribute free positive money. But is has to be free and postive to begin with. It cannot be money that should be used for other priorities. Thus a lot of planning, preparing and management will be required to get the seed capital free positive money fund underway.

That is what I am doing now.

[Johnlegend]

Thanks JL this is most exciting.

You know we can soon probably list a few very special methods and view them as a wonderful arsenal from which to select the best and most appropriate to use on the current opportunities presented for us in our reading of the game live spin outcomes.

Lets include the best of your works, and this latest method; then we have the remarkable D+C ( and I play it in its reversed form- the Reverse Bet); Mr F_LAT_INO's latest work which I am advised has wonderful results; and then an array of my own favourites - some of which I have to maintain secrecy upon because it is a colleague's special insight; and some that use finales clusters or table street patterns or wheel section patterns ( all short term opportunities).

The choice of which method to use will also be influenced by available resources, time, and the goal that we seek in return profit.

The general advice fron Kanzen, and others, to get in and out as quickly as possible, is very valuable. I call it accrual from mini-sessions.

Also to remember the big overall aim. You are running your own banking operation. Why do anything to undermine the massive and worthy goal of compounding interest.

A certain detachment is thus essential.

See the big picture and compound daily. Acknowledge there will be occasional small setbacks but generally the way forward is clear and the compounding operation can achieve what I believe to be +10% of your risk bank daily ( average gain), by playing say no more than 3 mini sessions per day.

Set the bar high! Why not and create, then re-distribute free positive money. But is has to be free and postive to begin with. It cannot be money that should be used for other priorities. Thus a lot of planning, preparing and management will be required to get the seed capital free positive money fund underway.

That is what I am doing now.

What I have aimed for over the last few years is 5---10% increase on Bankroll. Compounded with growth per week. Or 1% per session.This doesn't seem like much. But once your BR grows to a substantial amount. 1% could be more than most people earn in a day. And as you say all players must be prepared for minor setbacks. But overall continued growth is achieveable with the right method/s and mindset.

Short sessions are always favourable. I could play more and longer. But the passage of time has shown me to never leave the door open on randoms ebb and flow too long. This attitude has never failed me. Many will say if you know you can win, why not play for much longer and reap greater daily rewards??. The anwser will be, that's why I know I can win. I am not there the vast majority of the time when random is showing what I don't want to see. That is the golden rule.

[XXVV]

Fair enough and sound advice JL. Thanks for your contributions. Golden Rules are a very good and truthful expression.

[XXVV]

On another thread I recently commented that profit draw-downs from casinos, particularly B+M casinos, should not exceed $10,000.


This is a really subjective statement and actually varies according to context.


Recent casino developments in Macao, Melbourne, and now Auckland ( all closer to home for me) have demonstrated the massive growth in tourist dollars and high rolling imported customers from China. These arrive by the planeload and are a by product of the 7% plus annual growth, and massive growth in wealth in China.


Main game for these 'whales' is baccarat, but roulette does feature.


I am advised that the average hand in baccarat at these private tables which may actually be at say level 27 or 39, in high roller suites within the hotel complex associated with the casino ( eg Crowne in Melbourne), is a bold $150,000.


In such context the casino will be happy to pay out 'big', but only on the basis they will get quite a tidy sum back. Of course in baccarat they merely 'host ' and take a cut, like poker.


So my suggestion is that if in such a regular travelling party, and the baccarat technique is sound, the occasional foray into big roulette can be very profitable with wins plus 10 x my previous statement being quite acceptable. But I still believe it needs to be very carefully managed and put into proportion of the context of 'churn' amounts.


I have a special colleague who has a brilliant strategy to combine baccarat and roulette, Ratio is 80/20 funnily enough and he always bets Player. Short bursts at successful roulette fuel this engine of 'perpetual motion'. More on that at a later date.


A fascinating and pleasing study when dealing with such big sums.


A few days in that context could supply a year's income. Just like the top 50 in World Golf ratings.
Its all an aspect of professional studies.


Soon I want to do some roulette writing on methods that fly out of the ordinary, and are certainly beyond common sense.


XXVV