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4 Sectors of the wheel

Started by Carsch, Feb 14, 11:51 PM 2011

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Carsch

The 4 sectors of the American wheel

1, 3, 5,13,15,22,24,34,36
2, 4, 6,14,16,21,23,33,35
7,9,11,17,20,26,28,30,32
8, 10, 12,18,19,25,27,29,31


Bet that the sector from last spin will repeat within the next 6 spins. If you get a hit, you bet that same sector until it stops hitting.

If no hit within the 6 spins, go the No-show sector till a hit (the sector that has not hit for the longest).

We will be betting on 8 numbers, instead of 9 numbers**

Progression (16 steps): 1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3,3ââ,¬â€2,2,2,3,4,5,6

BANKROLL: 312 units
             

Average profit: 60 units per 50 spins (this is assuming that you will bust once every 1,000 spins) . If not, your profits should be higher.

**Although there are 9 numbers per sector (zeros excluded), weââ,¬â,,¢ll only bet 8 of the 9 numbers. The number to be excluded will be the one belonging to the sleeping DOZ & COL.


Test result with the first 1,000 spins from the Zumma book  

Profit: +1,244 units
Busted once
Highest profit: +1,460

Test Result is attached

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The 4 sectors of the European wheel

32, 15,19,4,21,2, 25, 17, 34
6, 27, 13, 36,11,30,8,23,10
5, 24,16,33,1,20,14,31,9
22, 18,29,7,28,12,35,3,26


Carsch

Here is a test i did for today spins at the Casino in Germany

186 spins
Profit: +280

   Permanenzen vom Tisch T2 vom 15.02.2011
         
Spin   Number       W/L   Bal
1   34         
2   27      L   -8
3   20      L   -16
4   11      L   -24
5   32      W   4
6   28      L   
7   28      L   
8   3      L   
9   31      L   
10   29      L   -36
11   4      W   20
12   0      L   
13   15      W   40
14   6      L   
15   16      L   
16   16      L   16
17   19      W   44
18   36      L   
19   17      W   64
20   25      W   92
21   10      L   
22   22      L   
23   35      L   
24   13      L   
25   6      L   52
26   0      L   
27   10      L   20
28   27      L   -4
29   14      W   80
30   17      L   
31   8      L   
32   36      L   
33   11      L   
34   31      W   76
35   23      L   
36   35      L   
37   18      L   
38   34      L   
39   18      L   36
40   34      L   
41   19      L   4
42   4      L   
43   21      L   -44
44   11      W   12
45   22      L   
46   16      L   
47   2      L   
48   11      W   16
49   15      L   
50   30      W   36
51   11      W   64
52   1      L   
53   16      L   
54   0      L   
55   14      L   
56   28      L   24
57   0      L   
58   16      L   -8
59   0      L   
60   23      L   -56
61   27      L   
62   6      L   
63   33      L   -104
64   7      L   -128
65   20      L   -160
66   4      W   -20
67   15      W   8
68   2      W   36
69   22      L   
70   11      L   
71   12      L   
72   26      L   
73   15      W   32
74   12      L   
75   26      L   
76   31      L   
77   4      W   36
78   2      W   64
79   7      L   
80   20      L   
81   4      W   76
82   26      L   
83   27      L   
84   4      W   88
85   29      L   
86   10      L   
87   19      W   100
88   36      L   
89   3      L   
90   13      L   
91   23      L   
92   6      L   60
93   1      L   
94   1      L   28
95   23      L   4
96   35      W   88
97   34      L   
98   16      L   
99   11      L   
100   33      L   
101   17      L   48
102   12      W   104
103   30      L   
104   12      W   124
105   30      L   
106   27      L   
107   34      L   
108   34      L   
109   15      L   84
110   8      L   68
111   1      W   126
112   11      L   
113   22      L   
114   1      W   136
115   4      L   
116   3      L   
117   3      L   
118   1      W   140
119   2      L   
120   19      L   
121   18      L   
122   2      L   
123   5      W   136
124   30      L   
125   32      L   
126   35      L   
127   7      L   
128   16      W   132
129   28      L   
130   0      L   
131   16      W   144
132   10      L   
133   23      L   
134   3      L   
135   14      W   148
136   14      W   176
137   12      L   
138   17      L   
139   6      L   
140   4      L   
141   19      L   136
142   21      L   
143   36      L   104
144   36      L   
145   32      L   56
146   35      W   112
147   24      L   
148   17      L   
149   36      L   
150   3      W   116
151   27      L   
152   12      W   136
153   15      L   
154   31      L   
155   20      L   
156   23      L   
157   12      W   132
158   13      L   
159   0      L   
160   22      W   144
161   6      L   
162   9      L   
163   17      L   
164   23      L   
165   1      L   104
166   16      L   
167   14      L   72
168   17      W   156
169   23      L   
170   0      L   
171   15      W   168
172   31      L   
173   19      W   188
174   3      L   
175   34      W   208
176   35      L   
177   32      W   228
178   34      W   256
179   31      L   
180   19      W   276
181   30      L   
182   35      L   
183   20      L   
184   19      W   280
185   16      L   
186   22      L   
            


Carsch

Another test from today's spins at the Germany's casino

Tisch:                       T3
Datum:               2011-02-15

********* Gewinnzahlen ********


358 SPINS
PROFIT +960


7
31L-8
12W+20
4L+12
32L+4
8L-4
1L-12
36L-20
4L-36

18L-52
7L-76
12L-100
12L-116
14W-60
32L-68
13L-76
0L-84
32L-92
19L-100
17L-116

0L-132
0L-156
9L-180
30L-196
0L-216
3W-156
20L-164
9L-172
6L-180
7W-152
19L-160
22W-132
31L-140
31L-148
20L-156
30L-164
21L-172
31L-188

36W-132
32L-140
21L-148
13W-120
8W-92
29L-100
16L
35L
34L
16L
1L-148

10L-164
12W-80
4L
20L
2L
25L
15L-120
35W-64
31L
5L
3W-52
25L
12W-32
26W-4
1L
33L
35W+8
36L
5L
12W+20
0L
22W+40
31L
23L
4L
0L
13L+0
17L-16

33W+40
31W+68
9W+96
11L
15L
30L
10L
0L+56
13L+40

7W+96
18W+124
17L
3W+144
2L
35W+164
25L
28W+184
13L
0L
17L
32L
29W+180
21L
21L
34L
3W+184
15L
13L
15L
14L
31L+144
10L

24L+112
0L
14L+64
27L
28L
20L+16
15W+100
31L
12L
34W+112
19W+140
21W+168
32W+196
36L
22L
0L
3L
24L+156
14L

3L+124
10W+208
30W+236
35L
2L
9L
6W+240
24L
29L
24L
2L
8W+236
11W+264
11W+292
16L
22L
30W+304
0L
15L
36W+316
11W+344
7L
7L
17L
1L
29L+304
23W+360
23W+388
0L
24L
3L
4L
28L+348
24L

33L+316
25W+400
14L
1L
36L
12L
4W+396
18L
2W+416
25W+444
0L
27L
27L
29L
17W+440
27L
32W+460
18L
10L
33L
2W+464
15W+492
25W+520
27L
18L
13L
12L
0L+480
18L

4L+448
36L
35L+400
24W+456
11L
14W+476
30L
35L
9W+488
34L
17L
15L
26L
18L+448
12L

16L+416
8W+500
6W+528
6W+556
13W+584
14L
36W+608
33L
17L
19L
27W+612
16L
22L
27W+624
4L
1L
13W+636
8W+664
19L
5L
29L
17L
9L+624
8W+680
24L
11W+700
8W+728
23W+756
28L
9L
18L
0L
29L+716
35L

16L+684
4W+768
22L
19W+788
14L
11L
20L
7L
31L+748
33L+732

8W+788
7L
1L
9L
10W+792
30W+820
36W+848
35L
5L
30W+860
6W+888
33L
11W+908
23W+936
31L
23W+956
7L
35L
4L
8W+960
5L
25L
34L
18L
35L+920
2L

15L+888
7L
10L+840
14W+896
28L
17L
35L
15L
19L+856
8L

7W+896
0L
3W+916
13L
29W+936
13L
2L
3W+948
18W+976
14L
22W+996
28W+1,024
35W+1,052
36L
14L
13L
34L
9L+1012
5L

34L+980
28L
12L+932
20L
4L+900
13W+956
0L
17L
12L
34L
11W+952
17L
22L
35L
12L
33L+912
24L

3L+880
22L
19W+940
28L
20L
25W+952
25W+980
27L
4W+1,000
11L
31L
33L
11L
5L+960
13L

20L+912
18W+996
36L
29W+1,016
4L
33L
30L
21L
15L+976
32L

28L
23L
17L+896
11L
1W+936
18L
5W+956
15L
21L
35L
9W+960
15L

albalaha

Dear Carsch,
            Thanks for this nice post. You really worked hard on testing its effectiveness. During my last casino trip, I encountered a sleeper quarter of the wheel (9 consecutive numbers on an euro wheel) for more than 55 times. I have only one piece of advise here. Get benefit of temporary bias and do not let it sweep you. Yur method is very good but we can go other way round also.

foreverBOB

You think it will work on automated airball spins?

darrynf

this is a interesting concept as i have made a very similar system in another forum except i bet on the sectors that hit the most.

sectors from the wheel so if A hit then i bet on A to hit again and the testing was good and showed promised.

best way to counter sleepers was to not place any bets if there were no doubles, i think this system is similar and should be used to find bias wheels.

my system uses flat betting and still profits.

darrynf

Quote from: foreverBOB link=topic=3992. msg38006#msg38006 date=1297877997
You think it will work on automated airball spins?

if it works on random then it will proberly work on airballs, i saw one of these machines working the other day and made a couple of bets and won with my own system.

its not on any forum but that would work on the air balls.

Carsch

Quote from: albalaha on Feb 16, 04:31 AM 2011
Dear Carsch,
            Thanks for this nice post. You really worked hard on testing its effectiveness. During my last casino trip, I encountered a sleeper quarter of the wheel (9 consecutive numbers on an euro wheel) for more than 55 times. I have only one piece of advise here. Get benefit of temporary bias and do not let it sweep you. Yur method is very good but we can go other way round also.


You're right about the sleeper, Albalah. However, since it doesn't always happen, i would think that with this system, it would be ok to lose one session out of a couple sessions. Well, there are other ways one could also play this system, of course. One just have to try different things.

Carsch

Quote from: foreverBOB on Feb 16, 12:39 PM 2011
You think it will work on automated airball spins?

Why not! One could give it a try. If u have past spins, i'll test them.

Carsch

Quote from: darrynf on Feb 17, 12:00 AM 2011
This is a interesting concept as I have made a very similar system in another forum except I bet on the sectors that hit the most.

I did try that, but wasn't working for me. But then when i go to the online live casinos, i see that the sectors that hit most often would be a way to go.......cause that is usually what i see taking place.

Quotemy system uses flat betting and still profits.

How many numbers do you bet on?

darrynf

9 numbers and the system is based on live wheels, kind of looking for bias wheels but its still new, so needs more testing.

i could put it in here if you like, but i think playing the sectors that hit the most is the way to go.
you already have seen it, i have tested it so i know it works

Carsch

Yes, please post it. I guess i need to do more tests with the sectors that hit most.

Anyway, as for flat betting, i just checked the last two tests i put up here. Had i just played flat bets, this is what i'd get:

For the test with 186 spins
44 wins:+1,232
139 losses: -1,2112
Net profit: +120

For the test with 358 spins
99 wins: +2,772
257 losses: -2,056
Net profit: +716

Wow, not bad at all just flat betting.

darrynf

is it ok if i put it in this thread as i dont want it to be scrutisnise.

Carsch

Quote from: darrynf on Feb 17, 01:43 AM 2011
Is it ok if I put it in this thread as I don't want it to be scrutisnise.

Sure, it's fine with me.

darrynf

heres my new system:

there are 4 sectors to watch (B sector is optional)

A) 0,32,15,19,4,21,2,25,17

B) 34,6,27,13,36,11,30,8,23,10 (This sector is optional)

C) 5,24,16,33,1,20,14,31,9

D) 22,18,29,7,28,12,35,3,26

you spin 30 or more (optional) times, look at what sectors hit the most (A, B, C or D), depending if you are playing RNG or live wheels:

live wheels, you bet on the sectors that hit the most with doubles in the first 30 spins (this is crucial, if no doubles then leave and go to a different table.

RNG, you bet on what has the less hits out of the sector, in theory with RNG it ment to evenly distrubute it self out over time, so you can play  long sessions (as long as the first 30 spins are done for every 100 spins and there is doubles in that 30 spins).

THIS IS ONLY FLAT BETTING.
IF YOU HAVE A LOW B. R THEN START WITH LOWER CHIPS.
ALWAYS BETTING NUMBERS, 9 NUMBERS IS THE MAXIMUN UNLESS YOU ARE PLAYING SECTOR B.
THIS SYSTEM CAN BE MODIFIED FOR AMERICAN WHEELS (PLACE 00 IN FRONT OF 0, A SECTOR BECOMES 10 NUMBERS. )


example of real numbers:

Session 1 RNG
1   C
14   C
4   A
26   D
36   B   
1   C   
1   C   
32   A   
20   C
30   B
0   A
11   B
3   D   
25   A   
31   C   
35   D   
14   C
10   B
24   C
35   D
8   B
36   B
36   B   
9   C   
22   D
27   B
3   D
31   C
13   B
34   B   end of the 30 spin cycle
A) 04 hits   B) 10 hits   C) 10 hits   D) 06 hits
Now I will bet either B or C for doubles.  (I will bet for C)(more than likely A and D will come through.
For testing results Iââ,¬â,,¢m going play C

9   C   bet C
30   B   loss -9
31   C   bet C
17   A   loss -9
15   A   
23   B   
26   D
17   A
7   D
28   D
4   A
12   D
2   A   
15   A   
10   B
25   A
24   C   bet C
26   D   loss -9
12   D
9   C    bet C
36   B   loss -9   
5   C   bet C
24   C   win +27, bet C
24   C   win +27, bet C
12   D   loss-9
20   C   bet C
10   B   loss -9
1   C   bet C
1   C    win +27, bet C
13   D    loss -9   
29   B
8   B
14   C   bet C
24   C   win +29, bet C
8   B   loss -9
20   C   bet C
15   A   loss -9
11   B   
31   C   bet C
16   C   win +27, bet C
6   B   loss -9
10   B   
2   A   
4   A
1   C   bet C
0   A   loss -9
2   A
1   C   bet C
33   C   win +27
6   B
35   D
8   B
8   B   
7   D   
34   B
17   A
21   A
30   B   
25   A   
28   D   
2   A
3   D   
35   D   
36   B   
25   A   
26   D
12   D
7   D   
11   B   
27   B
1   C   bet C
13   B   loss-9
12   D
0   A

104 spins
6 wins 27x6= $162
12 loses 12x9=$108
$54 profit
This was all flat betting.

If I had played sector D:
8 loses
5 wins = profit $63
Even D makes profit with flat betting.
A:
6 loses
5 wins   even A makes $81 profit.
B:
12 loses
4 wins

UPDATE: B is wrong, its not -16, it 0.

for 1 win and 4 losses you break even

0 profit, so B was the worst case scenario.


as you can see A and D hit alot but I wanted to show a bad result but the results in this session were good overal.

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