MATRIX VERTICAL *30 LIVE ATTACK*

[Post]

I was testing this yesterday went bust on spin 170 i was up 9 then i saw this only mind
the (1) this time
211
221
111 trigger (1)
313
312 -2 (1)
312
131
233
122
113
123 -6 (1)
221
202
221
221
330 -18 (1)
330
113
313
311 -54 (1)

End session

[ZigZag]

I was testing this yesterday went bust on spin 170 I was up 9 then I saw this only mind
the (1) this time
211
221
111 Trigger Doz 1
313
312 Loss Step 1 (1st doz)
312 Loss Step 2 (3rd Doz)
131 Win step 3 (2nd Doz)
233
122
113
123 Trigger
221 Win Step 1(3rd doz)
202
221 Trigger
221
330 Win Step 1 (2nd doz)
330
113
313
311 Trigger   Win Step 1 (3rd doz

End session                    

Orignial matrix 30 version 

[ZigZag]

The way I understand Altlantis version. You had 1 doz and 3 doz in play.

Triggers 111  222  333

I was testing this yesterday went bust on spin 170 I was up 9 then I saw this only mind
the (1) this time
211
221
111 Trigger 1 Doz
313
312 Loss 1 doz
312 Trigger 3 doz
131
233
122  Win 3 doz
113
123  Loss 1 doz
221  
202
221  Trigger 2 doz
221
330  Win 2 doz Loss 1 doz
330
113
313
311 Loss 1 doz

End session

Maybe Atlantis can check which is correct with his way of play

[atlantis]

Hi Post; ZigZag,

Post - That really was an unwelcome result as it produced the first recorded loser...
I am willing to concede that the original matrix30 rules may perform better than my tweak. In fact I even said as much in an earlier post when I mentioned that there may not be a better or more successful way to play it other than the original way devised by Scooby and JohnL.
It's possible my tweak, whilst producing more betting opportunities, may affect the long term safety provided by the original way.
After such an experience, I will therefore perfectly understand should you decide to now resume testing back under the original rules.
What I am saying is - the system may be as perfect as it is possible to get as it already stands. You cannot improve on perfection. To attempt to do so may disrupt the harmony/mechanics of the perfection thus resulting in weakness or flaw... so I state again that my revision, whilst made with the very best intentions to improve, may possibly be detrimentally affecting some element which is already an integral part of the core success of the method.

A.

[atlantis]

The way I understand Altlantis version. You had 1 doz and 3 doz in play.

Triggers 111  222  333

Maybe Atlantis can check which is correct with his way of play

Yes that is right ZigZag - however it still does not prevent the inevitable 4-Step Loss - whereas as you showed this would not have happened under the original matrix30 rules.

A. 

[ZigZag]

Hi Atlantis. On the original Matrix 30 there was 1 occastion where it took me to 4th step as the third step was loss due to zero. So now I always cover zero if i'm on 3rd or 4th step just to break even.

I do like your version in fact I like all the different versions of the matrix. I was doing my own High/Low version the other day like this

HLLHL
HL     If the first 2 were a match I would bet 3 times for a miss then reset

HHLHL
LL     If the first 2 were a miss I would bet 3 times for a match then reset on a win

HHHHH or LLLLL = NO BET

haven't tested this much was just playing around.

I was using both a 5 matrix and 7 matrix side by side for more triggers

A 7 Matrix would be first 4 that match or misses then bet 3 times

HHHLHLL
HHHL      Bet 3 times for Miss

LHLLHLH
HLHH      Bet 3 times for Match

I have only played this for VERY short time so no idea if its any good.

[chrisbis]

How about betting against a 'shape' forming in the Matrix?

Like this
[table=,]
1,2,3,4,5,6
H,L,L,L,L,H
H,L,L,L,L,H
H,L,L,L,L,H
H,H,H,H,H,H
H,L,L,L,L,H
H,L,L,L,L,H
H,L,L,L,L,H
[/table]

I making the letter 'H' here to illustrate the idea.

Ur going to bet AGAINST  this unique shape from forming, within this size of Matrix.

Its an illusion as we all know, but if U can find shape/matrix's that are SO unlikely to form,
the U may have found something.

Width progression will need to be formulated carefully, to carry U to journeys end.

Cheers.

[Johnlegend]

Yes that is right ZigZag - however it still does not prevent the inevitable 4-Step Loss - whereas as you showed this would not have happened under the original matrix30 rules.

A. 

Ive noticed that sometimes a dozen can overperform and when it moves over the 40% strike rate per 100 spins what happenned there can occur, whereas not favouring any dozen means overall a better win to loss percentage. No harm in experimenting ive often thought about the vertical columns that DONT repeat, they can go to double figures before theres a repeat. had a column of 11 today while playing.

So there are many ways to approach the MATRIX VERTICAL CONCEPT.

[Post]

the matirx is verry intertesting i am trying out all sorts of triggers in the matrix betting against unique forms in the matrix is the way to go

[Johnlegend]

Hi Atlantis. On the original Matrix 30 there was 1 occastion where it took me to 4th step as the third step was loss due to zero. So now I always cover zero if i'm on 3rd or 4th step just to break even.

I do like your version in fact I like all the different versions of the matrix. I was doing my own High/Low version the other day like this

HLLHL
HL     If the first 2 were a match I would bet 3 times for a miss then reset

HHLHL
LL     If the first 2 were a miss I would bet 3 times for a match then reset on a win

HHHHH or LLLLL = NO BET

haven't tested this much was just playing around.

uUI was using both a 5 matrix and 7 matrix side by side for more triggers

A 7 Matrix would be first 4 that match or misses then bet 3 times

HHHLHLL
HHHL      Bet 3 times for Miss

LHLLHLH
HLHH      Bet 3 times for Match

I have only played this for VERY short time so no idea if its any good.

Zig Zag thats a great idea about covering the ZERO. Ive just completed my 260th game got my second loss today full update later.

[ZigZag]

The Iron '+':

1-2-3
2-2-2
3-2-1

The Iron 'X':

1-2-1
3-1-2
1-3-1

The Iron 'T':

2-2-2
1-2-3
3-2-1

The Iron '.':

1-3-3
3-2-1
1-3-1

Okay, maybe not the last one!

Hi Chrisbis i have been looking betting against shapes forming. GLC posted some interesting shapes on 3 line matrix. The iron x is my favorate   

[Post]

anyone already testing the iron x?
i am going to test it tomorrow

[ZigZag]

Anyone already testing the iron x?
I am going to test it tomorrow

Hi Post not tested any of the shapes yet. Maybe you could alternate between the shapes each session to make maybe more random?

[ZigZag]

Zig Zag that's a great idea about covering the ZERO. I've just completed my 260th game got my second loss today full update later.

Is that 2nd loss using just a 3 step progression? 2 loss out of 260 is still really good going. Are you having any look with your Mirror 6 idea?

[Johnlegend]

Is that 2nd loss using just a 3 step progression? 2 loss out of 260 is still really good going. Are you having any look with your Mirror 6 idea?

Yes zig zag will give the breakdown after my lunch. I think its good too. Im hoping for 60--1 longterm. Working on MIRROR 6 still these are exciting times...