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MATRIX VERTICAL *30 LIVE ATTACK*

Started by Johnlegend, Feb 16, 02:01 PM 2011

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Johnlegend

Okay after 260 completed games, I've suffered two losses on step 3 of the progression. Matrix vertical 3 is still performing very well. Here are the numbers after 260 games.

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 260
TOTAL GAMES WON 258
TOTAL GAMES LOST 2
CURRENT BALANCE 240 POINTS PROFIT
CURRENT STRIKERATE 129/1

STEP 1 WINS 169
STEP 2 WINS 74
STEP 3 WINS 15--LOSSES--2

Still very pleased with the performance, way too early to tell what the average strikerate might be. Next update Thursday after the 300th game.... ???



Post

i just did  400 spins was +12 this happend

222
123
122  trigger
021 -2
313
221
213
202 -6
111
131
121 -18 -54 BUST -80

vundarosa

Quote from: Post on Mar 03, 04:28 AM 2011
I just did  400 spins was +12 this happend

222
123
122  trigger
021 -2
313
221
213
202 -6
111
131
121 -18 -54 BUST -80


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Post this was live or RNG? I've seen this happen on RNG but not yet on live gaming

Vundarosa

Post

live man spielbank wiesbaden first 400 testing spins

Johnlegend

Okay ive now completed 300 games with still just two losses. I have now also started testing on betting from a double to a quad using the same 26pt progression i use on the normal way.

For two reasons A,waiting for a treble trigger can take more than 80 spins and B, there arent many vertical formations in excess of 4 compared to how many doubles,trebles and quads that form. Okay here are the numbers for the 300 games played...

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 300
TOTAL GAMES WON 298
TOTAL GAMES LOST 2
CURRENT BALANCE 280
CURRENT STRIKERATE 149/1

STEP 1 WINS 190
STEP 2 WINS 84
STEP 3 WINS 24--LOSSES 2

Im happy the strikerate has remained over 100/1 just a little frustrated at the wait for triggers. I think ultimately betting against trebles, quads and quintets forming will prove just as lucrative but far less time consuming I will start posting my results over the weekend...

v




Johnlegend

Quote from: Post on Mar 03, 04:28 AM 2011
I just did  400 spins was +12 this happend

222
U123
122  trigger
021 -2
313
221
213
202 -6
111
131
121 -18 -54 BUST -80

It would have been better for you to adopt the 3 step progression. Pulling back 26 points is easier than 80. My second loss was a five trip too. What im now testing is the strikerate between doubles, trips and quads and those that go beyond them if the strike rates even 40/1 its a go for me...



Post

I was just playing the matrix when I saw this

321
321
321
331

2 quads and a triple next to each other
live spins I thought it would be interesting to show you guys !

Johnlegend

Quote from: Post on Mar 04, 01:38 PM 2011
I was just playing the matrix when I saw this

321
321
321
331

2 quads and a triple next to each other
live spins I thought it would be interesting to show you guys !
Ive seen that many times Post, ive also seen 4 consecutive quads followed by 11 doubles, thats why im now testing to find out if the best way to play the MATRIX VERTICAL concept is to wait for a double then bet against it becoming a quintet using the classic 1,1--3,3--9,9 progression early results show this has alot of potential. Ive played over 40 games in a row several times without seeing anything worse than a quad...


ZigZag

Maybe i been lucky so far but have yet to hit the wheel during a 4 loss. maybe i'm not at the wheel long enough for it to catch me  :lol:

Quote from: Johnlegend on Mar 04, 02:12 PM 2011
I've seen that many times Post, I've also seen 4 consecutive quads followed by 11 doubles, that's why I'm now testing to find out if the best way to play the MATRIX VERTICAL concept is to wait for a double then bet against it becoming a quintet using the classic 1,1--3,3--9,9 progression early results show this has a lot of potential. I've played over 40 games in a row several times without seeing anything worse than a quad...



I just had to google what a quintet means  :-[

I dont know John i have always kept my eye out looking for quads and i'm sure i have seen a 5 in a row. I could suggest wait for a tripple and bet against a 6 verticaly BUT that would defeat the object your trying to get with having more triggers  ???

Johnlegend

Quote from: ZigZag on Mar 04, 05:45 PM 2011
Maybe I been lucky so far but have yet to hit the wheel during a 4 loss. maybe i'm not at the wheel long enough for it to catch me  :LoL:

I just had to google what a quintet means  :-[

I don't know John I have always kept my eye out looking for quads and i'm sure I have seen a 5 in a row. I could suggest wait for a tripple and bet against a 6 verticaly BUT that would defeat the object your trying to get with having more triggers  ???
Its timing ZIG ZAG, youve entered the cycle at the right time. Mathematicians will argue a method has no merit if it cant stand up to 10s of 1,000s of continuos spins. But that is neither realistic or wholey true.

We all know that random can produce freak runs that can defeat ANY METHOD with a decent betting frequency, as I said before it is the human beings lack of PATIENCE that makes them lose, if for example you had the patience to wait for two QUADS on a live wheel and bet that there wouldnt be 7, you would probably grow old and die before you lose even ONCE.

The gambling world doesnt prospur because their games cannot be beaten, they prospur because very few human beings have the PATIENCE to do it. What we are trying to do here is develope methods that strike a balance between regular turnover and invincibility. The Matrix concept takes us into that realm...

Johnlegend

Good evening having now completed 342 games for MATRIX VERTICAL 3 I have suffered my third loss on the 340th game annoyingly. I played the extra two games to keep the strikerate breakdown to whole numbers, so here is the latest report.

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 342
TOTAL GAMES WON 339
TOTAL GAMES LOST 3
CURRENT BALANCE 297 POINTS+
CURRENT STRIKERATE 113/1

STEP 1 WINS 203
STEP 2 WINS 105
STEP 3 WINS 31--LOSSES 3

Still very happy with MATRIX THREES performance, still a long way to go but its looking very solid....




vundarosa

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 342
TOTAL GAMES WON 339
TOTAL GAMES LOST 3
CURRENT BALANCE 297 POINTS+
CURRENT STRIKERATE 113/1

STEP 1 WINS 203
STEP 2 WINS 105
STEP 3 WINS 31--LOSSES 3

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this is indeed looking very good. I had, while playing the same system on RNG, two consecutive losses  playing a 4 step progression. Your touch of having a 3 step progression is what is making this system a winner. If you'd be going to 4th step progression, 3 losses (how many of your losses went to 5 triplets?!) would put you at about +50 points in about 390 sections.

I somehow still believe this can also do a good job on a RNG. With a 3 step progression, and similar strike rate, one should still be able to make decent profit....<speculation>....

Vundarosa

ZigZag

I Haven't wrote down all my results that John and Vundarosa have done, but i started with just the one bankroll and now have 3 x that  :xd:

I started on slingshot roulette but was losing to the 3rd step too many times for my liking so was using a 4 step. Seems to produce lot more repeaters.

Now on live dealer and its much more steady. Can be frustrating waiting for a double to become a treble with live dealer and there are many times i'm tempted to just flat bet the doubles. Today 14 doubles in a row that didn't form a treble that i could have flat betted.

My advice. Wait for trigger, then hit, hit and out! SAS Style 8)


ScoobyDoo

Why not do just like ZigZag is doing and flat bet doubles while waiting for a triple to show it's face. That way, you should be making some profit along the way.

I don't see a way that you could get into too much trouble doing that. Maybe make your unit  size smaller on the flat betting and when you find a triple go to your usual unit size.

Just a thought...

Scooby Doo

Johnlegend

Hi Vundarosa my second loss was a 5 trip. Yes 26 points is alot easier to recover and acceptable in relation to the time spent playing. ANYTHING can happen on RNG its not true random especially in REAL MONEY PLAY.

If you cover numbers 1--35 three times in a row and the ball lands on number 36 three times you know something isnt right..




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