MATRIX VERTICAL *30 LIVE ATTACK*

[Johnlegend]

Here's one tested on BV nozero r.n.g

212
313
212--Trigger#1 (pos2)
331
312
211--Trigger cancelled (pos1)
333
211
331
232
323
332
112
223
332
211
112
231
322
131
321
312
213
331
131
313
213
312--Trigger#1 (pos2)
322
313--Trigger#2 (pos1) ; W1u (pos3)

Long wait for triggers - but no probs using autospin (fastspin)
Again a win on the first bet.
+1 in 90 spins.

A.

Old Chinese proverb say, better to wait for success than rush to FAILURE,

[Johnlegend]

I have now played 120 games of Scoobies excellent MATRIX 3. All wins and not a single one has pressed me to the fourth step yet here is the breakdown.

TOTAL WINS 120
TOTAL POINTS 240
LOSSES ZERO

STEP1----93
STEP2----24
STEP3----3
STEP4----0

On a live wheel its a whole different ball game literally. You are playing random. Not a generated predator. And the results are very consistent as a result. I just love the vastly improved pace and turnover of MATRIX 3. It works and its fast enough to play 5---10 sessions a day on a live wheel. Very well done Scooby. If this generates a strikerate anywhere near what I hope for longterm (over the next 6 months) It will become my main method. I would encourage every single person on this forum to at least have a go.

You will love the pace and winning consistency for live wheels and slingshot wheels. The testing goes on. 

[atlantis]

I have now played 120 games of Scoobies excellent MATRIX 3. All wins and not a single one has pressed me to the fourth step yet here is the breakdown.

TOTAL WINS 120
TOTAL POINTS 240
LOSSES ZERO

STEP1----93
STEP2----24
STEP3----3
STEP4----0

On a live wheel its a whole different ball game literally. You are playing random. Not a generated predator. And the results are very consistent as a result. I just love the vastly improved pace and turnover of MATRIX 3. It works and its fast enough to play 5---10 sessions a day on a live wheel. Very well done Scooby. If this generates a strikerate anywhere near what I hope for longterm (over the next 6 months) It will become my main method. I would encourage every single person on this forum to at least have a go.

You will love the pace and winning consistency for live wheels and slingshot wheels. The testing goes on. 

Great news  - it's looking strong so far. Thanks for your report.

A.

[ZigZag]

Very empressive results John. I been busy playing with the Matrix Turbo but need to test this baby soooon 

[Johnlegend]

Very empressive results John. I been busy playing with the Matrix Turbo but need to test this baby soooon 

Its fantastic Zig Zag, I'm a purist although ive always wanted to find an RNG killer (and I think matrix vertical is) My heart and roots lay with TRUE RANDOM. And that will always be a real wheel.

Matrix VERTICAL in its 7x7 format is too slow for live wheels. Quads too, don't form as often on a live wheel. Scooby realized this and addressed it perfectly with the 3 wide matrix concentrating on trips instead of quads.

And I'll tell you that is a masterstroke. As trips don't even form TOO OFTEN ON A REAL WHEEL.

Have played 7 sessions already today and only one of them was a double trip. Requiring me to go to step 2 of the progression for a win...

[atlantis]

Played 4 sessions on BV nozero r.n.g (playing with 2 consecutive triggers on rng)

4 wins:

+1 in 58 spins - 1st bet
+1 in 46 spins - 1st bet
+1 in 47 spins - 1st bet
+1 in 34 spins - 1st bet



Restarted the software after each win.

A.

[Johnlegend]

Played 4 sessions on BV nozero r.n.g (playing with 2 consecutive triggers on rng)

4 wins:

+1 in 58 spins - 1st bet
+1 in 46 spins - 1st bet
+1 in 47 spins - 1st bet
+1 in 34 spins - 1st bet



Restarted the software after each win.

A.

Nice work Atlantis, and on an RNG...Have played all my MATRIX 3 sessions for the day, I will update total performance twice a week. But I am loving this MATRIX.

[GLC]

Guys,

I have nothing negative to say about this bet selection method.  I will say that sometimes, and I've done it a lot, we create twists and turns in our paths that make us think we are escaping the bad guys, but they know that if they go down below the fenced-in area, we will eventually have to go right past them and they can pick us off one by one.  In other words, it's possible that all roads lead to Rome.

I just looked through about 15,000 live spins, not consecutive spins, but around 300 spins sessions, and I found about 40 times that 2 doubles turned to trips 5 times before one didn't (this includes trips that were formed by a zero hitting).  I think that represents this method.  If this is a normal ratio, it appears that we could flat bet and win with this method, so I may have a favorable series of spins.

I'm just not too sure that creating the matrix changes things in the long run.  I don't think it hurts anything, it just may be a lot of tracking for nothing.  I think having doubles form trips 5 times without a double not forming a trip in between is a pretty rare event to start with.  How long would you have to play it to see if it really is a long term winner.  It looks like playing without the matrix, I had 100 wins for each 80 unit loss which would leave me +20 units.

I agree that if we can improve that to say 200 wins for every loss, it's a contender for the championship.  And, it would definitely make the tracking worthwhile.  As I write and think, I may be talking myself into disagreeing with myself about the matrix.

Okay, so this post is for information only.  Use it if you can, chuck it if you can't. 

Believe me, I have the utmost respect for everyone working on this system and am not trying to derail it in any way.  We all know that we have to consider every possibility with a system.  They are so fickle.  This was going to be my 2 cents worth, but now I've cut it back to 1 cent worth.

cheers,

George

[Johnlegend]

Guys,

I have nothing negative to say about this bet selection method.  I will say that sometimes, and I've done it a lot, we create twists and turns in our paths that make us think we are escaping the bad guys, but they know that if they go down below the fenced-in area, we will eventually have to go right past them and they can pick us off one by one.  In other words, it's possible that all roads lead to Rome.

I just looked through about 15,000 live spins, not consecutive spins, but around 300 spins sessions, and I found about 40 times that 2 doubles turned to trips 5 times before one didn't (this includes trips that were formed by a zero hitting).  I think that represents this method.  If this is a normal ratio, it appears that we could flat bet and win with this method, so I may have a favorable series of spins.

I'm just not too sure that creating the matrix changes things in the long run.  I don't think it hurts anything, it just may be a lot of tracking for nothing.  I think having doubles form trips 5 times without a double not forming a trip in between is a pretty rare event to start with.  How long would you have to play it to see if it really is a long term winner.  It looks like playing without the matrix, I had 100 wins for each 80 unit loss which would leave me +20 units.

I agree that if we can improve that to say 200 wins for every loss, it's a contender for the championship.  And, it would definitely make the tracking worthwhile.  As I write and think, I may be talking myself into disagreeing with myself about the matrix.

Okay, so this post is for information only.  Use it if you can, chuck it if you can't.  

Believe me, I have the utmost respect for everyone working on this system and am not trying to derail it in any way.  We all know that we have to consider every possibility with a system.  They are so fickle.  This was going to be my 2 cents worth, but now I've cut it back to 1 cent worth.

cheers,

George

GLC, what I think is this, having that set format to analyze the behaviour of random or RNG helps you to focus a lot more. Than simply writing down spins and results. Plus the real worth is the law of averages behaves beautifully within the matrixes. Let me give you an illustration of this from two results I had for MATRIX 3 today.

1/3/2
2/3/3
1/3/3---TRIGGER COLUMN 2
1/3/1---WINNER COLUMN 3--STEP1
2/3/2
3/2/2
1/3/1
1/2/2
1/2/3---TRIGGER COLUMN 1
2/1/2---WINNER COLUMN 2--STEP1---SESSION COMPLETE

13 MATCHES--17 NON-MATCHES--Poor performance for non-matches with matches gaining almost 50 percent of the pie. now look what the law of averages does in the very next session of 30.

3/0/2
2/1/2
3/1/3
2/1/2---TRIGGER COLUMN 2
1/3/3
1/2/2
3/3/1---WINNER COLUMN 1--STEP1
3/2/2
2/2/1
1/1/1---SESSION COMPLETE

7 MATCHES--22 NON-MATCHES--1 ZERO. You can see how things often re-balance especially ON A REAL WHEEL. Where there is no monkey business going on.

[atlantis]

How long would you have to play it to see if it really is a long term winner.  It looks like playing without the matrix, I had 100 wins for each 80 unit loss which would leave me +20 units.

Hi George,
Your thoughts and concerns are valid.
I think it is the matrix 3 which underpins this. Would your result have been DIFFERENT OR BETTER if playing using the MATRIX? (and remember using 1 or 2 triggers first?)
Would be great if we had a tracker to test this too.

A.

[Johnlegend]

Hi George,
Your thoughts and concerns are valid.
I think it is the matrix 3 which underpins this. Would your result have been DIFFERENT OR BETTER if playing using the MATRIX? (and remember using 1 or 2 triggers first?)
Would be great if we had a tracker to test this too.

A.

I can see 150--200/1 easily on a real wheel people. I am playing without step 4 of the progression now too. So I am more open to losing. My thinking is recovering 52 points is a lot easier than 160. And what I will do when I eventually see 4 trips is immediately double my stakes for the very next 10 games ONLY. That will pull back most of the loss. So long as I don't meet two close losses LoL.


I have decided to tweak the progression because so many of my hits are being attained on the first two steps of the progression. Plus for the time you put into playing. You want the fastest route to recovery possible.

[Post]

he guys al that testing what would you recommend the one triple trigger or the double triple trigger?

because i thought it would take to long to wait for a double trigger
and a single gave me some good results on live spins.

and should i use the last step of the progression 27-27 or just leave it and take the lose of 26 just asking

[ZigZag]

He guys al that testing what would you recommend the one triple trigger or the double triple trigger?

because I thought it would take to long to wait for a double trigger
and a single gave me some good results on live spins.

and should I use the last step of the progression 27-27 or just leave it and take the lose of 26 just asking

Hi Post. You could wait all day for a double trigger on a live wheel.

I'm still winning with this. I keep it to short sessions i.e i never go beyond 10 DEEP of the matrix unless i'm already in play. Not going beyond 10 deep playing both dozens and coloms usually only gives me 2 triggers/2 wins per short session on average.

I like to give the wheel as little window as possible to hit me with a 5 in a row

At moment i'm testing with a 4 stage progression just to see how far i can go, but for safety i would say Johns way is probably better with just a three stage, and double your chips for 10 bets for recovery.

How many sessions so far have you done and whats your highest bet so far?
I only done 30 sessions so far. Only once as it hit 3rd. In fact this would make a great flatbet as the hit rate is quite remarkable.

[Post]

so we wait for 1 trigger triple and then bet doubles not to become a triple ?

[ZigZag]

I wait for 1 triple as a trigger.

324
231
233
211  -------Triple 2nd doz vertical. Your tracker will show this as a W
321
223
323  ---------Lose Tracker will show this as a W
211  ---------Win on second step of progresstion. Tracker shows this as a L

I track both dozens and columns BUT I DONT bet on both at same time

Only thing to kill me is
W
W
W
W
W

on the tracker for each doz line or column

Maybe others do this differently. Atlantis only bets on dozens