MATRIX VERTICAL *30 LIVE ATTACK*

[Post]

but do you also wait for another trigger after a loss ?

[atlantis]

Hi Post,

Yes. When you get say,

3
3
3

Next time you see the next vertical double 3, and that doublet of threes is not be formed from the numbers composing any previous identified triple, like 3-3-3 above e.g.:

3
3

You bet against the dozen 3 completing the triple !

Win or lose you must then wait for a 3-3-3 vertical triplet to happen again before you can bet on a subsequent matching double 3-3 not completing a triple...

Hope you get it.

A.

[Post]

I get it al the way but do you still use the progression ?

[Johnlegend]

Hi Twister. Good to see your interest. Hope to see some more results from you soon  

Hi Post I got to last stage of progression once. Slingshot roulette Betting the columns

Update: I have stopped playing columns now.  taking me to second step too many times, third step twice and 4th once. Dozens seem more steady. No dozen has taken me past the second step as yet.

Playing on real wheel now with dealer.  

Hi ZIG Zag, today got my first 4 trip, it came on the 173rd game. Have played a total of 180 games now. I played 174--180 at double stakes (52pts). So I've pulled back 14 points of the 26 POINT LOSS. Here is an update of my first 180 games.

STEP 1=109 WINS
STEP 2=64 WINS
STEP 3=6 WINS---1 LOSS

POINTS WON 186
POINTS LOST 26
BALANCE=160

Still very pleased was hoping to make it to 200 wins. But every method has to lose sometimes. Will try to recoup 12 points tomorrow.

And nice to see Twister is still here.

[atlantis]

I get it al the way but do you still use the progression ?

I only played it flatbetting so far.
I think might need 3 separate banks (one for each triple) for loss recovery - or you could accept the loss and play on until in profit (extend the matrix downwards)

I'm really undecided on best way forward with a progression just now...?

Thanks,
A.

[Post]

I think i ust use the 1-1 3-3 9-9 progression seperate on each dozen and always wait for a trigger after a loss or win. but doesnt that takes to long ?

[ZigZag]

Altlantis i just double checked sorry. Your way of playing the matrix30 is a different way to mine. Looks really good idea to play like that. Dose it do well flatbetting?  

[atlantis]

Altlantis I just double checked sorry. Your way of playing the matrix30 is a different way to mine. Looks really good idea to play like that. Dose it do well flatbetting?  

Hey Zigzag,
Yes it is slightly different and a little more strict - but you can get more bets this way.
As to your question, I do not know as I have only really come up with this slight variation on MATRIX30 today so not done much testing as of yet.
It is still simple to understand and play and I expect similar results hit/rate to the original so maybe can do good flatbetting?

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[ZigZag]

Hi ZIG Zag, today got my first 4 trip, it came on the 173rd game. Have played a total of 180 games now. I played 174--180 at double stakes (52pts). So I've pulled back 14 points of the 26 POINT LOSS. Here is an update of my first 180 games.

STEP 1=109 WINS
STEP 2=64 WINS
STEP 3=6 WINS---1 LOSS

POINTS WON 186
POINTS LOST 26
BALANCE=160

Still very pleased was hoping to make it to 200 wins. But every method has to lose sometimes. Will try to recoup 12 points tomorrow.

Hi John. I'm sure you will easy recoup that in a few sessions. I was thinging of appying  just a 2 step progression 1-1, 3-3 and then on a loss use a  full 4 step progression as recovery. Would recover 3 wins per sesson in 3 short sessions. What you think?

[ZigZag]

I will definatly do some testing tonight after watching the footy. Aim for maybe +3 each session maybe

Hi Post. With the matrix numbers Atlantis posted can you show how you would usualy play this?

[Johnlegend]

Hi John. I'm sure you will easy recoup that in a few sessions. I was thinging of appying  just a 2 step progression 1-1, 3-3 and then on a loss use a  full 4 step progression as recovery. Would recover 3 wins per sesson in 3 short sessions. What you think?

Thats an idea as even 3 TRIPS don't happen too often. Hey 172/1 isn't bad. Now want to see how long I go before the next 4 Or more trip. It will take 1,000s of games ZIG ZAG to get an idea of the strike rate. But ive never had a method with a 172 wins before loss. I think 26pts is about right ZIG ZAG. I'm really liking this method. I will update every 40 games I. Play.  

[Post]

ZigZag I just played wait for a triple and bet any couple after that against it becoming a triple and progression 1-1 3-3 9-9 standard. just like that

[ZigZag]

Hey 172/1 isn't bad.

I think i could just about sleep at night with that result 

ZigZag I just played wait for a triple and bet any couple after that against it becoming a triple and progression 1-1 3-3 9-9 standard. just like that

Yep thats fine. 

[Johnlegend]

Another easy way to try is to bet only after a vertical trigger triple:

TRIGGERS
========
1
1
1

2
2
2

or

3
3
3

I like it because it is simple and not too different to the original MATRIX30

Unlike MATRIX30 which waits for ANY doublet after ANY one of the three triple triggers; instead only play that a MATCHING doublet will not form another triple...
For example if you get a vertical trigger 2-2-2 then next time you get vertical 2-2 (matching doublet) play against the treble forming.
WIN or LOSE you must wait for the next vertical triple 2-2-2 to form before you can again bet on 2-2 not forming a triple.

Example using some previous numbers:

232
132
121
123--Trigger 1-1-1
211
313
132--W1@1-1-3  [RESET TRIGGER 1's]
333
231
322
331
311--Trigger 3-3-3
321--Trigger 1-1-1
323
123--W1@3-3-1 [RESET TRIGGER 3's] ; Trigger 2-2-2
122
223--W1@1-1-2 [RESET TRIGGER 1's]
131--W1@2-2-3 [RESET TRIGGER 2's]
122
232
123
223
323--Trigger 3-3-3
323--Trigger 2-2-2
332--W1@3-3-2 [RESET TRIGGER 3's]
333--Trigger 3-3-3
113--W1@3-3-1 [RESET TRIGGER 3's]
222

+6u
All 6 bets won on first step.

A.

Thats a clever tweak Atlantis, what are your numbers so far games played points won bet etc?

[atlantis]

that's a clever tweak Atlantis, what are your numbers so far games played points won bet etc?

No stats so far, JL. I only thought of this tweak today and haven't had much time to test but I will do some tonight.
Just want to clarify: in my example there were no losers and all six bets won on the first spin - but if there was a losing bet e.g.: you had a trigger 1-1-1 and next time 1-1 occurred you bet against dozen 1 and lost - then I meant to say that the next unique 1-1 vertical double DOES qualify to be bet. In other words you do not need wait for another 1-1-1 triple to occur... Only on a win should you reset and wait for another such trigger to occur. I think I gave out the wrong message in my previous reply to member 'Post'.

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