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MATRIX VERTICAL *30 LIVE ATTACK*

Started by Johnlegend, Feb 16, 02:01 PM 2011

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Twisteruk

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 24, 07:16 AM 2011
OK. Thanks. I suppose it inevitable that a win will happen on the 4th step.
(I suspect the method could be made "tighter" by waiting for 2 back to back triggers of the same type - or even by resetting ALL triggers after a win)A.


so at the moment after a win you continue ?
Its Set In Stone =)

atlantis

Quote from: Twisteruk on Feb 24, 08:45 AM 2011
so at the moment after a win you continue ?

Well you can stop any time when you've made some units - but at the moment I am playing it so that when you get a win betting against a triple forming you must wait for that same triple to form fully (trigger) before your next bet against that triple.

For example if I get a vertical 1-1-1 trigger - that would be trigger 1.
Next time I see vertical double 1-1 that is signal to bet against it becoming 1-1-1. If I win I must wait for 1-1-1 to reform (trigger 1) before awaiting vertical doublet 1-1 (signal to bet against vertical triple 1)...
If there are any other triggers outstanding e.g.. trigger 2 or trigger 3 I can play on if I wish and wait for vert. dbls 2-2 and 3-3... It is only trigger 1 that is reset because of my win...

Twister, I was only thinking it could be an idea to reset all 3 triggers (1-1-1;2-2-2;3-3-3) on any kind of WIN that is, if it helps at all...

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

atlantis

Quote from: marivo on Feb 24, 08:23 AM 2011
BV no zero. 144 spins, played dozens and columns under "atlantis" rules, +14 units, highest progression step 2. Attached numbers, dozens and columns sheets.

Hi Marivo - good results.
Here I show your dozens.txt - how I would have played:

1   1   1
1   3   1
2   3   2
2   1   2
2   2   3--trigger 2 (col1)
2   3   3
1   2   3--trigger 3 (col3)
3   2   2
1   3   2--won+1@2-2-3 (col2) - reset trigger 2
3   3   3
2   1   2--won+1@3-3-1 (col2) - reset trigger 3
2   3   1
1   3   2
3   3   3--trigger 3 (col2)
3   2   2
2   3   1--won+1@3-3-2 (col1) - reset trigger 3
2   1   1
2   3   3--trigger 2 (col1)
1   3   1
2   1   2
3   1   3
3   3   3
1   1   2
1   3   1
2   1   1
1   3   3
1   3   3
3   2   1
1   2   3
2   3   1--won+1@2-2-3 (col2) - reset trigger 2
2   1   3
1   2   3
2   1   3--trigger 3 (col3)
3   2   1
2   1   2
3   2   1
1   3   3
3   1   3
3   1   1--won+1@3-3-1 (col3) - reset trigger 3
3   3   1--trigger 3 (col1)
2   2   2
2   3   1
1   2   3
2   3   1
1   2   2
2   3   3
2   1   3
1   3   1--won+1@3-3-1 (col3) - reset trigger 3

+6 in 144 spins.
All 6 bets won on 1st step.

Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Johnlegend

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 24, 10:31 AM 2011
Well you can stop any time when you've made some units - but at the moment I am playing it so that when you get a win betting against a triple forming you must wait for that same triple to form fully (trigger) before your next bet against that triple.

For example if I get a vertical 1-1-1 trigger - that would be trigger 1.
Next time I see vertical double 1-1 that is signal to bet against it becoming 1-1-1. If I win I must wait for 1-1-1 to reform (trigger 1) before awaiting vertical doublet 1-1 (signal to bet against vertical triple 1)...
If there are any other triggers outstanding e.g.. trigger 2 or trigger 3 I can play on if I wish and wait for vert. dbls 2-2 and 3-3... It is only trigger 1 that is reset because of my win...

Twister, I was only thinking it could be an idea to reset all 3 triggers (1-1-1;2-2-2;3-3-3) on any kind of WIN that is, if it helps at all...

A.
That trigger is priceless guys, its your signal for go but also 25% of what you are betting against. I'm working on a method that is more immediate within the 3 by 10 .grid. Remember the idea for betting against the formation of a cross of the same dozen?? Well its highly profittable and instant inside that Matrix 3 grid. It could possibly surpass the MATRIX 3 for strikerate and a new game can start every six spins. I Testing this as I PLAY MATRIX 30. And in the time it took me to win 1 point MATRIX CROSS won 7...

Post

atlantis did you saw my results posted in my last reply witch i almost had a lost on a singel dozen ?

atlantis

Quote from: Post on Feb 24, 11:46 AM 2011
Atlantis did you saw my results posted in my last reply witch I almost had a lost on a single dozen ?

Hi Post,
Yes I saw it. I checked it and you're right. It went all the way to a 4-step win. This is gonna happen. It will happen with all the current matrix ideas whether you stay waiting for a particular doublet to form (in your case 2-2) or even if you bet on a different doublet as a result of trigger 2-2-2 it could still happen (as in the original way)... Depend what numbers get thrown out into the matrix... I agree the ZERO was the main enemy here (hit twice during betting)
Your overall testing result was still very positive and that is v. encouraging :)


A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Post

ok atlantis i will test some more  tomorrow and still 22 profit over 400 spins is nice it is more average then the original witch was like a profit every 25 spins your methode is like a profit every 18 spins  ;)

GLC

Quote from: Johnlegend on Feb 24, 11:12 AM 2011
That trigger is priceless guys, its your signal for go but also 25% of what you are betting against. I'm working on a method that is more immediate within the 3 by 10 .grid. Remember the idea for betting against the formation of a cross of the same dozen?? Well its highly profittable and instant inside that Matrix 3 grid. It could possibly surpass the MATRIX 3 for strikerate and a new game can start every six spins. I Testing this as I PLAY MATRIX 30. And in the time it took me to win 1 point MATRIX CROSS won 7...

The Iron '+':

1-2-3
2-2-2
3-2-1

The Iron 'X':

1-2-1
3-1-2
1-3-1

The Iron 'T':

2-2-2
1-2-3
3-2-1

The Iron '.':

1-3-3 ???
3-2-1
1-3-1

Okay, maybe not the last one! :thumbsup:
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Johnlegend

Good evening good people. I haved been spending all day playing Matrix 3. I am now up to my 220th game. Still only the one loss on the 173rd game. I recouped most of that over the next 10 games. Then reduced back down to my 26 point progression. And the last 47 games since the loss have been winners. With only 1 test at the door of defeat. Here is the latest breakdown.

TOTAL GAMES PLAYED 220
TOTAL GAMES WON 219
TOTAL GAMES LOST 1
TOTAL POINTS WON=243
TOTAL POINTS LOST=26
BALANCE=217
STEP1=139 WINS
STEP2=73 WINS
STEP3=7 WINS---1 LOSS

CURRENT STRIKERATE=219/1 :ooh:

Okay another 40 games to play before the next update.

atlantis

My latest results (using 3 trigger way)

session 1 = +3
All 3 bets won on 1st bet

session 2 = +4
3 won on 1st bet
1 won on 4th bet (zero occurred)

session 3 = +4
3 won on 1st bet
1 won on 2nd bet

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Post

Atlantis i think its somtimes hard to keep track of the different triggers and in witch stage of the progression you are for the individual dozen. do you also had this problem ?

ZigZag

Not had time to play Matrix 30 much this weekend.  Done 6 sessions

Sometimes takes a life time for triggers with live dealer

8 wins 1st step

1 win 2nd step 

+ 9  :thumbsup:

atlantis

Quote from: Post on Feb 26, 11:44 AM 2011
Atlantis I think its somtimes hard to keep track of the different triggers and in witch stage of the progression you are for the individual dozen. do you also had this problem ?

Hi Post,
Personally I don't have a big problem with keeping track of the triggers and the various levels of bet. After all there are only THREE triggers to deal with. I always record on paper the current state of the triggers and what the next bet units should be for each one next time there is a qualifying signal. I have to agree it requires more concentration and alertness to prevent error or mistake - but that is price to pay for having more options available.

Cheers,
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Johnlegend

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Quote from: ZigZag on Feb 27, 08:29 AM 2011
Not had time to play Matrix 30 much this weekend.  Done 6 sessions I

Sometimes takes a life time for triggers with live dealer

8 wins 1st step

1 win 2nd step 

+ 9  :thumbsup:
ZIGZAG old Chinese proverb say, better to wait for SUCCESS than rush to FAILURE. One way I often speed things up is to backtrack the history bar online.

Get the last 20 odd spins and often theres a ready made trigger in there. Another thing you want to do is as your bankroll grows increase the value of a point. This has value in more ways than one. (1) You spend less time playing to make your profit. (2) You expose your risk less closing the window of potential defeat faster. Whats better 1 game to win 5 units or 5 games to win 5 units?











ZigZag

Quote from: Johnlegend on Feb 27, 09:10 AM 2011
NZIGZAG old Chinese proverb say, better to wait for SUCCESS than rush to FAILURE. One way I often speed things up is to backtrack the history bar online.

Get the last 20 odd spins and often theres a ready made trigger in there. Another thing you want to do is as your bankroll grows increase the value of a point. This has value in more ways than one. (1) You spend less time playing to make your profit. (2) You expose your risk less closing the window of potential defeat faster. what's better 1 game to win 5 units or 5 games to win 5 units?

Hi John. Yes that's what I want to do and increase my start bet and do less sessions. I'm not at that stage yet as I started this with very small bankroll. I have already withdrawn my inital depost so now usings casino money :lol:

I was typing in the last 10 spins on marquee but will do 20 from now on to get a trigger faster.


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