MATRIX VERTICAL *30 LIVE ATTACK*

[Johnlegend]

I Haven't wrote down all my results that John and Vundarosa have done, but I started with just the one bankroll and now have 3 x that 

I started on slingshot roulette but was losing to the 3rd step too many times for my liking so was using a 4 step. Seems to produce lot more repeaters.

Now on live dealer and its much more steady. Can be frustrating waiting for a double to become a treble with live dealer and there are many times i'm tempted to just flat bet the doubles. Today 14 doubles in a row that didn't form a treble that I could have flat betted.

My advice. Wait for trigger, then hit, hit and out! SAS Style

ZIG ZAG im testing tbose doubles right now, ive had 11 in between trips, I think there is a way to profit from them and increase profit turnover...

[Johnlegend]

Why not do just like ZigZag is doing and flat bet doubles while waiting for a triple to show it's face. That way, you should be making some profit along the way.

I don't see a way that you could get into too much trouble doing that. Maybe make your unit  size smaller on the flat betting and when you find a triple go to your usual unit size.

Just a thought...

Scooby Doo

Hi Scooby im testing that out right now you can get 11 doubles followed by 4 or more trips...

[eluka]

@ Johnlegend
With the winrates you have been having and the distance between losing sessions, could you or would you consider compounding your winnings?

e.g.: is it possible to alter the progression and parlay your winning bets? Are there enough of them in a row to take advantage of?

E

[esoito]

For a newcomer to the forum who find this thread and scratches their head in bewilderment,  where should they go to catch-up on the background to this method?

(There's a confusing plethora of matrix threads on the forum, you see...)

[Johnlegend]

For a newcomer to the forum who find this thread and scratches their head in bewilderment,  where should they go to catch-up on the background to this method?

(There's a confusing plethora of matrix threads on the forum, you see...)

The rules for this matrix are here on the thread or they can ask myself, Scooby or Atlantis. The MATRIX VERTICAL concept is quite simple we bet for or against vertical formations of the SAME DOZEN. Instead of left to right. There is a definate advantage in doing so. What we are forcing random to do is continually land a dozen in the same spot. There are common limits to how often its able to do this. five consecutive for trebles and quads, has been identified as a significant marker. From this knowledge we have created two main methods. MATRIX VERTICAL and MATRIX VERTICAL 3. The first is played on a seven wide grid and is  more suitable on RNGS as it needs a fast pace. Its enemy is the formation of 5 consecutive vertical quads of a dozen. We wait for one of these to form then using a four step progression bet against any treble becoming a quad for a maximum of 4 attempts using an 80 point risk 1,3,9,27x2

MATRIX VERTICAL 3 is a superb super tweak by Scooby Doo to play on live wheels using a 3 wide grid and betting aganst the formation of 4 or 5 vertical trebles. AGAIN WE WAIT FOR a trigger of one vertical treble before we commence and bet against a double becoming a treble for three or four attempts max using the same classic progression 1,3,9x2. We stop after three steps win or lose.

[Droganson]

Hi, Johnlegend. Thank you for explaining the system. Could you provide a small example of how it needs to be played? I am new with matrices but this thread has captured my attention. Sadly I have no idea how to form the matrices with the numbers I spin?

[Johnlegend]

@ Johnlegend
With the winrates you have been having and the distance between losing sessions, could you or would you consider compounding your winnings?

e.g.: is it possible to alter the progression and parlay your winning bets? Are there enough of them in a row to take advantage of?

E

Hi Eluka, at the moment anything seems possible I've never had a loss within 30 games of the previous one and my first winning streak was a wopping 172 in a row.

Nevertheless these are early days ELUKA, I have almost completed 380 games on a LIVE WHEEL. It will take several thousand before we get an idea of the average strike rate, thus far its holding over 100/1 i expect it to come down over time 60/1 and ill still be very happy.
How you stake this method is optional I'm using the classic 1,3,9x2 26pt total risk.

I always say this don't GET GREEDY. Its one of the biggest reasons the myth still exists that roulette longterm can't be beaten. YOUR BANKROLL is your powerbase. It must be many times your risk for you to succeed ideally. The gambler who comes with 100 units thinking he can win 100 units is the TRUE
GAMBLERS FALLACY. They will nearly always go bust. You must take it one step at a time. Once you have won a few thousand units, then you might set aside a percentage of that for wagering experimentation. Until then give a lot of respect to random, for it can turn on you at anytime. And if your fortress is weak youll be in trouble.

So always keep that in mind, the gambler trying to win 20 units per day with a 1,000 unit BR is in a far better place than one who is trying to win 20 units a day with a 100 unit BR.

[Johnlegend]

Hi, Johnlegend. Thank you for explaining the system. Could you provide a small example of how it needs to be played? I am new with matrices but this thread has captured my attention. Sadly I have no idea how to form the matrices with the numbers I spin?

Hi Droganson here is an example of how you record dozens and play MATRIX VERTICAL 3
321
322
212
012--TRIGGER
331--WIN column 2 step 1 DOZ 1

As it did not become a vertical treble after your trigger in column 3. that's how you record the dozens in rows of 3.

[Droganson]

Thank you for the explanation, JohnLegend! Makes perfect sense. I will begin practicing it now. Looks like it will work well with my RNG! 

[Johnlegend]

Thank you for the explanation, JohnLegend! Makes perfect sense. I will begin practicing it now. Looks like it will work well with my RNG! 

Rngs are not true random Droganson, you would be better with the quad version on an RNG. It can produce five trips more frequently than a LIVE WHEEL especially in real money mode lol. So remember that  Matrix 3 is perfect for LIVE WHEEL PLAY, the original Matrix vertical Quad version is EXCELLENT ON RNGS...

[Droganson]

I see Vertical Quad...now I'm confused again. Lol. Okay. So you said treble for the Matrix 3 so the vertical quad must be...okay I have no clue. Dang it! 

[Johnlegend]

I see Vertical Quad...now I'm confused again. LoL. Okay. So you said treble for the Matrix 3 so the vertical quad must be...okay I have no clue. Dang it!  

Here is an example of MATRIX VERTICAL QUAD, Droganson the two main diferences are we record spins in rows of seven instead of three and our enemy is five consecutive vertical QUADS instead of TRIPS,

EXAMPLE...
1112301
2133322
3312311
2311321--TRIGGER column 5, DOZ 3
0222311
3132122--WIN column 7, DOZ 1

You see Droganson, same play method just a seven wide grid and betting against quads instead of trips. This version holds up a lot better on an RNG but is too slow for LIVE WHEELS...

[maestro]

john i play rng for a bit of fun and what i do is use that ophis tracker for matrix concept so i start to input say 13-14 spins just to get picture of how matrix forms what i look for is  say in your example of matrix in your last post where you have number 3 you can see forms 4-5 in a row this is what i bet seems rng loving it...so put numbers and start flicking tracker to show me each matrix 3,4,5,6,7, for dozen and colums when i see 3 ,4,5 in a row i bet them to continue the same and always back up zero seems to me whnever i play on rng matrix push the zero a lot...try it with small bets you might like it

[vundarosa]

john i play rng for a bit of fun and what i do is use that ophis tracker for matrix concept so i start to input say 13-14 spins just to get picture of how matrix forms what i look for is  say in your example of matrix in your last post where you have number 3 you can see forms 4-5 in a row this is what i bet seems rng loving it...so put numbers and start flicking tracker to show me each matrix 3,4,5,6,7, for dozen and columns when i see 3 ,4,5 in a row i bet them to continue the same and always back up zero seems to me whnever i play on rng matrix push the zero a lot...try it with small bets you might like it

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Maestro, where can one get hold of the tracker? Last I tried downloading it the link was down (I guess due to forum updates...)


I am playing 3 ,5 and 7 matrix simultaneously (which takes a lot of time doing it on paper), betting against trips and with 5 step progression. The profits are a smaller (but consistent) and the BR needes to be higher, but I am yet to soil my pants on this! I am testing this with $0.10u, so maybe i won't soil them that much anyways but if it holds long term, i am increasing my unit value.

vundarosa

[alfgard]

Hi guys.  .  .  new here and this thread caught my eye.    I've read the whole thing.    Could one of you tell me if I am understanding this correctly?

Write down the dozen hit beginning left to right on a 3x10 matrix.    The trigger is the first dozen to vertically hit three consecutive times.    After the trigger bet against the next double to become a triple.   

Couple questions.  .  .  If hit on the first do you reset matrix or play out all 30 spins?  What is the max number of loss before starting again?

Also what wheel is this on euro or american?