Put me out of my misery!

[chrisbis]

@ Wood101 .....and @ Kattila

No sign of Misery yet!!!!


Well it doesn't crash as such, but there is a cut off point of 7 numbers,
after which, U have to increase the stake on each number on the felt/table by more than 1 unit per bet/number.

I just did some testing, bout 4 hours worth, and with care and attention, it is winning me money.  

This morning I added +1000 units (10 Euros), so that's quite good for penny play!  

He's the Profit/Loss table for this system play. (0.01 unit value- pennies!!)

[table=,]
Level,Amount bet on each number,Bet,Net Loss,Win Pay,Net Gain,+/- overall
1,0.01 on 5  numbers=,0.05,0.05,0.36,0.31,+0.31
2,0.02 on 6  numbers=,0.12,0.17,0.72,0.60,+0.55
3,0.03 on 7  numbers=,0.21,0.38,1.08,0.87,+0.70
4,0.04 on 8  numbers=,0.32,0.70,1.44,1.12,+0.74
5,0.05 on 9  numbers=,0.45,1.15,1.80,1.35,+0.65
6,0.06 on 10 numbers=,0.60,1.75,2.16,1.56,+0.41
7,0.07 on 11 numbers=,0.77,2.52,2.52,1.75,0 even

8,0.08 on 12 numbers=,0.96,3.48,2.88,1.92,-0.60 loss
[/table]

I really like this system Mr Wood. Nice Swann. 

I will test some more, maybe add a few tweaks of my own, and then look to raising the bet level to 0.10 unit per number, and see it go...................hopefully!!  

[woods101]

@ Chris.

Wow! Nice one! I'm guessing the drawdown is pretty hefty tho? Great news if you can prog thru the losing streaks. I originally looked at this as a hit and run. You do get occassional runs of bad luck (not many repeats) that can last a while though not always, hence the original 504 BR along with 170ish stop/loss. Glad you're tweaking it further. Looking forward to hearing about your tweaks further down the line. Keep us posted, but be warned, big drawdowns can come (in my experience) so watch out.

Thanks again man.
Woods

[woods101]

P.s. lovin' the 'Henry'- you can't beat 'em!

[woods101]

@ Katilla.

Sorry katilla I was slightly wrong with a previous post- regarding flat betting the six- I have not been waiting for a new lot of six numbers after a repeat in this situation. Just constantly betting the selected numbers and if a repeat happened within those six then I would just place another chip on the repeated number (2 chips) and cover just 5 numbers (or 4 etc) for that short period until they dropped out and were replaced again. Hope this makes sense.

[woods101]

Hi guys

Was wondering if anyone had any more joy with any of the above ideas? Would e nice to know how ya got along...

Thanks
Woods

[chrisbis]

Yes its a very good system Mt Woods.


Very good indeed. 

More people should take a look at it.

esp if the play at bv.

I have passed it on to a few of my friends for.....................examination!

Several tweaks available on it-- I'll see about posting some of them up over the weekend.

[woods101]

Hi Chris,

Great news. Thanks for the feedback. I'd love to hear about your tweaks. Is BV live or RNG?
Look forward to hearing from you. PM  if ya want.

All the best.
Woods

[woods101]

Hey guys,

Any joy with this - Ausy Jase, Superman, katilla...?
Hey Chrisbis- what's the coup? What prog have you come up with..?

To all the above and anyone else- no news isn't good news. If any of the ideas above didn't work for you then it's valuable to know this also, so please send any feedback back this way.

(your silence makes me nervous!)

Thanks
Woods

[chrisbis]

Don't be nervous Mr Woods.

No need.

We are working on a possible bot for Ur system.

Meanwhile, carefully review Ur progression steps, and set out alternative progression rates for the event AFTER the equalising point- which is 7 chips on 11 individual numbers.

As U know from Ur calcs, and the Progression table I posted up, the 7 chips on 11 numbers, only equates to getting the Core stake money back in one's BR, and not making any profit whatsoever.

I have had given me an idea- that maybe U could take the level upto 12 numbers max, and then reset.

Myself, I like to go all the way, and get that first-pay-back hit, but I have my own progression rates that might not suit everyone else.
So, I want U (the Originator) to think about it, and come up with something. PLS!!

Its a very good system.

And its win rate, is not just confined to winning at a Certain Forum Favourite Casino either, it wins at lots of places!!!

Cheers

[woods101]

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the update. Bot is pure flattery, though this seems to be more credit to you than to me. I notice my original post at the top of this topic has now gone blank, but I didn't entirely get your results until now and the penny just dropped! It seems like your method is more in line with what Katilla and I were chatting about than the original method I posted.
please correct me if I'm wrong but you're playing 5 numbers 1 unit, 6 numbers 2 units, 7 numbers 3 units and so on up until a cutoff point of 7 units and 12 numbers, is this correct?
And is this the method that you've been getting good results with? If so then wicked stuff! I like what you've done with the place- it looks great!
What happens if you bust pass the 7 unit stage- is it get up and go home/ put the kettle on and retire, or is there a further, more reckless next stage?
How much testing/how many sessions/numbers have you run so far?
What's your unit profit (if you don't mind me asking!) and if there is further progression (no stop/loss point) then what is your greatest drawdown?

Thanks again for your time on this one Chris.

Woods

[chrisbis]

I'll post more on this Tonight- UK time.

Just one correction for U.

It WOULD be 7 units/chips on 11 numbers not 12.

But that would be silly.

Results- quick one for U- Fairway Casino- on-line Live wheel.
since Monday.
Start balance ÂÃ,£7.25- current balance ÂÃ,£24. 65  (that's plus 340% in 3 days)
I just played- but lost- dealer change,
and I think the Repeater Wheel Gods went for coffee too!! (so I was at ÂÃ,£33.65)

I play ONE session.

Yes take the progression higher than 7 on 11.
I made my own.

I'd like U (for the sake of others watching/reading) to have a look at the whole progression list, and say where U would stop.

I have a stop-loss yes.

But, I tend to be adamant enough- to play for that one win per day, then turn off.
(but only if there are more than ONE repeats, already on the Marquee.

Otherwise, I don't play.
The Wheel Gods have to be with u, and as has been said so many times- there's always another day.


See ya later.

[Tomla021]

Geez I was gonna try this at brick and mortar casino and the explanation for the system disappeared ??

[chrisbis]

Tonights play at Fairway, Just few minutes ago.

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On-wards and upwards eh!!

[woods101]

@ Tomla.

Hi mate. Welcome aboard. There's basically a few ideas being tossed around here but there's what seems to be a couple of solid ideas.
Firstly..
My original one is like this:
step 1-Play last five unique numbers 1unit each.
step 2-Spin.
step 3-Play last six numbers (ie add last spin) 1 unit each.
step 4-Spin.
step 5-Play last 7 numbers 1 unit each.
step 6-Spin.
If no win then repeat step 1 but increase by one unit.
If win*AT ANY POINT*  then * RESET IF IN PROFIT * --or---repeat step 1 and decrease by 1 unit if not in profit.
A BR of 504 units will cover you for 21 spins with no repeat of past seven numbers before you bust. You're playing for repeats basically.

This will crash but so far testing against live wheel (Smart live and DB(play) and B&M(real)) about 33 sessions (don't have exact details to hand - moving house!) I have had about 7 losses. win/loss ratio seems to be about 5-1 I have profit stop point as 170/200 units then walk away but if session starts to grind then take a much lower profit. 200 unit step off means - 3 wins and you've doubled your stake. Have lots of stakes (20ish?) This could work over time as a long slow haul. Change wheels after a win.
This is not enough sessions for a clear picture and it could balance out 50/50 for win/loss sessions in the long run. ( I could have been lucky). I haven't seen more than two losses in a row but it will happen. test first- see what you think.

[woods101]

The second idea is much more down to Chrisbis I feel (Nice one Chris )!

Check Chris' reply no.15.
He is playing:
1 unit each first 5 nos.
2 units each first 6 nos.
3 units each first 7 nos. etc. Hope you get the idea.
I think he plays up to 11 nos- 7 units each no.
Stop loss is bust after 11 numbers not hitting and start a new sesh.
...or reset when in profit.

Again you're playing for repeats- check Bayes repeat stats as mentioned above that gave the original inspiration.

Good luck Tomla.

Woods