Roulette can't be beaten

[MauiSunset]

Mauisunset to illustrate how foolish your attitude is, you cry 301 years and roulettes still going strong. The last time I checked they still had blackjack in the casino too. Does that mean NO ONE EVER MAKES ANY PROFIT FROM IT. Does it mean you are lying to us about how good you supposedly are? I mean you should have beaten them so badly by now that they had to change the rules. Throw it out.

                     

Skill makes all the difference between the two games.  When I sit down at a BJ table or at the machine I always pull out my plastic coated card which has totally different tables than the ones for sale in the gift shop; 10 years of refining the game of BJ but 100% based on statistics.

Within a few hands I will be surrendering my cards instead of holding or asking for a card.  I always get a kick out of the shock at the table from the other players.  They probably have never surrendered and I surrender a lot.  I get back half my bet to a loser of a hand.  Well, within a few surrenders everyone at the table is surrendering - as they should.  I do other things that shock the players but they don't use them since it's been ingrained into them not to do it.

I can't vouch for other BJ players but I know they don't have the statistical tools I bring with me nor do they practice as I do nor do they have the skills that I have developed. My money management is unique too and that represents years of research.

In Roulette there are NO tools to help you - zip, zilch, zero; you know the published odds and that's it.

Folks who claim to have beaten Roulette must use voodoo math and science in order to arrive at a winning system; I know this is all baloney.

However, money management is for real and I pay attention to folks who acknowledge Roulette can't be beaten but money management helps them win some money at the end of the night; how much they win I don't know but I'm conducting contests and trying my hardest to find these folks.

I will gladly demo my BJ skills to anyone who has winning Roulette concepts and swap strategies and techniques; we can each become more profitable at gambling.  Just win my little Outback Steak House contest and we can talk....

[Johnlegend]

Skill makes all the difference between the two games.  When I sit down at a BJ table or at the machine I always pull out my plastic coated card which has totally different tables than the ones for sale in the gift shop; 10 years of refining the game of BJ but 100% based on statistics.

Within a few hands I will be surrendering my cards instead of holding or asking for a card.  I always get a kick out of the shock at the table from the other players.  They probably have never surrendered and I surrender a lot.  I get back half my bet to a loser of a hand.  Well, within a few surrenders everyone at the table is surrendering - as they should.  I do other things that shock the players but they don't use them since it's been ingrained into them not to do it.

I can't vouch for other BJ players but I know they don't have the statistical tools I bring with me nor do they practice as I do nor do they have the skills that I have developed. My money management is unique too and that represents years of research.

In Roulette there are NO tools to help you - zip, zilch, zero; you know the published odds and that's it.

Folks who claim to have beaten Roulette must use voodoo math and science in order to arrive at a winning system; I know this is all baloney.

However, money management is for real and I pay attention to folks who acknowledge Roulette can't be beaten but money management helps them win some money at the end of the night; how much they win I don't know but I'm conducting contests and trying my hardest to find these folks.

I will gladly demo my BJ skills to anyone who has winning Roulette concepts and swap strategies and techniques; we can each become more profitable at gambling.  Just win my little Outback Steak House contest and we can talk....

Mauisunset I knew that question would get you. And at the end of the day both games STILL EXIST IN CASINOS AND **ALWAYS WILL*

Because the people who have the neccessary Qualities to profit from them OVERALL. Will always be a very SMALL percentage. You speak of money management, of course you have to be very good with it to profit. NOBODY FLAT BETS CARD GAMES ALL NIGHT BUB.

I mean how many blackjack or poker players bet flat and make any real money? Your biggest mistake is not being able to think Away from the layout. Thats where you lose the plot.

I you stopped going on about your steak house voucher up for grabs and openned your mind for a week. I would give you a method so good. Youll be wondering why are you wasting your time PLAYING BLACKJACK.

Im serious, when you want to REALLY learn something come and talk to Johnlegend...

[MauiSunset]

Mauisunset I knew that question would get you. And at the end of the day both games STILL EXIST IN CASINOS AND **ALWAYS WILL*

Because the people who have the necessary Qualities to profit from them OVERALL. Will always be a very SMALL percentage. You speak of money management, of course you have to be very good with it to profit. NOBODY FLAT BETS CARD GAMES ALL NIGHT BUB.

I mean how many blackjack or poker players bet flat and make any real money? Your biggest mistake is not being able to think Away from the layout. that's where you lose the plot.

I you stopped going on about your steak house voucher up for grabs and openned your mind for a week. I would give you a method so good. Youll be wondering why are you wasting your time PLAYING BLACKJACK.

I'm serious, when you want to REALLY learn something come and talk to Johnlegend...

Of course players are not limited to just flat bets - I never said they are.

What I said is that I, me, flat bet until I have more in my BR than what I brought in and I then up my bets with casino money, not my money.  If you don't have a profit you have no business betting more than table minimums (or your minimums) since you are a loser.

Losers must bet table minimums until they prove they have someone else's money to risk.

As to assuming that many/most folks here are blowing smoke in my face - I play enough poker to know bluffs when they huff and puff in my face....

[darrynf]

im pretty tired of you maui, you come on a roulette forum and tell every one it cant be beaten then you brag about beating blackjack, in my viewe both games require skill, i cant beat black jack cause i have no interest in it nor do i care but if i took the time to understand it then i could and you will proberly agree with me.

but i tried to understand roulette and sure there a lot of things that mean shit really, gamblers fallacy and law of the third, its true you cant forcast numbers just like blackjack but you can have an idea what is in the deck if you are card counting and thats a big advantage for sure, just like roulette you can have an idea what might hit and most people arnt successful nor do many systems beat roulette but there are some that are good.

you are right and its free to say what ever you want but i think you are going about it the wrong way and lets be honest maui, you have care for roulette, you havent put time in to it and you are mocking everyone cause of some voodoo shit you read, theres many ways of playing roulette and some more successful then others but just because you have never herd of someone beating roulette dosent its not true, even if someone took your challenge and won you will proberly just say its luck.

winning roulette isnt easey and if its a good system it will be hard to understand as a good system need to be complicated, there is some good systems that are easey to follow just need alot of money for bankroll but i think money management is the biggest key with any system.
the right money management can take you far, i use flat bets and progression and i do fine but i think the big successe of my system is due to money management. so stop saying shit about voodoo and ufo'f cause not every one thinks like that, its just how we play it.

you have your game and we have ours, you can either except that we are telling the truth and believe us as we believe what you are saying to be true or go away.

[esoito]

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And on that note I'd say this thread is pretty well played out because we're simply getting repetitions and circular arguments.

Perhaps now is the time to put the thread down as an act of kindness!

That is unless anyone posts valid reason(s) for keeping it going...

[darrynf]

go for it, its just the same rubbish on here, no one will miss it, maui will show up else where lol.

[albalaha]

Being realistic with any type of gambling is called awareness but daily giving so pessimistic remarks regarding roulette in a roulette forum is quite in bad taste. Such things should have no room here.
          Those who say, this game is unbeatable should stay away from it.Gambling is not a very noble and essential part of our lives. By the way, for such guys I have solid proofs of daily winnings here..link:://rouletteforum.cc/albalaha%27s-exclusive/winning-daily-with-betvoyager/

[MauiSunset]

Being realistic with any type of gambling is called awareness but daily giving so pessimistic remarks regarding roulette in a roulette forum is quite in bad taste. Such things should have no room here.
          Those who say, this game is unbeatable should stay away from it.Gambling is not a very noble and essential part of our lives. By the way, for such guys I have solid proofs of daily winnings here..link:://rouletteforum.cc/albalaha%27s-exclusive/winning-daily-with-betvoyager/

I know of no math or science that can beat Roulette.  The ONLY thing left is Money Management and that's what I'm focused on and doing experiments on for the past 3 weeks.  I'm using plain ol' statistics and math and I don't know if I will get anywhere but that's my focus.

300 years of Roulette standing up to hundreds of thousands of attempts to break it is a sober benchmark that has me very doubtful whether I can find something to make Roulette profitable.

But 2011 is my year to investigate Roulette and I will spend the entire year searching....

[MauiSunset]

I'm pretty tired of you maui, you come on a roulette forum and tell every one it can't be beaten then you brag about beating blackjack, in my viewe both games require skill, I can't beat black jack cause I have no interest in it nor do I care but if I took the time to understand it then I could and you will proberly agree with me.

but I tried to understand roulette and sure there a lot of things that mean thing really, gamblers fallacy and law of the third, its true you can't forcast numbers just like blackjack but you can have an idea what is in the deck if you are card counting and that's a big advantage for sure, just like roulette you can have an idea what might hit and most people arnt successful nor do many systems beat roulette but there are some that are good.

you are right and its free to say what ever you want but I think you are going about it the wrong way and lets be honest maui, you have care for roulette, you haven't put time in to it and you are mocking everyone cause of some voodoo thing you read, theres many ways of playing roulette and some more successful then others but just because you have never herd of someone beating roulette dosent its not true, even if someone took your challenge and won you will proberly just say its luck.

winning roulette isnt easey and if its a good system it will be hard to understand as a good system need to be complicated, there is some good systems that are easey to follow just need a lot of money for bankroll but I think money management is the biggest key with any system.
the right money management can take you far, I use flat bets and progression and I do fine but I think the big successe of my system is due to money management. so stop saying thing about voodoo and ufo'f cause not every one thinks like that, its just how we play it.

you have your game and we have ours, you can either except that we are telling the truth and believe us as we believe what you are saying to be true or go away.

Give me a break!

BJ was "broken"  by card counting and the casinos caught on and installed 6-deck shoes and actively scan for card counters.

For 300 years casinos have played Roulette the same exact way - no changes have been made.  

This tells me that no one has broken Roulette - it's just that simple.

The problem you guys have is that you listen to insane ideas and actually start to believe them - they don't work.

I have full faith and trust that if someone actually breaks Roulette the casinos will change the game in a heartbeat or just throw the wheels into the street and install slot machines.

My purpose here is to find an idea, rooted in reality, and work with it for the rest of the year and see where I get.  More than likely I will fail - I know this.

You guys, on the other hand, assume everyone is beating Roulette and you have no luck with the crazy scheme you cooked up and believe another kook can help you.

I've only found one little tidbit that I feel might have some promise - I will work hard to perfect it and try it out; if I succeed to some extent I will demo if for you guys.  If you guys can figure it out so can the casino and it will be nullified in a heart beat.

If someone can point out where skill means anything in Roulette I would soften my outlook at Roulette; I just can't find where skill means beans at this game; without skill that means that spinning the wheel 10,000 will not improve your skill at the game, statistics will take over in the long run and that's why Roulette is in casinos - the odds favor the house.

Guys, what you are attempting to do is very very hard and 99.99% of you are wrong - that's what 300 years of casinos running Roulette means - all losers in the long run...

[albalaha]

You know one thing maui, you are quite a frustrated person. Roulette cant be beaten with any kind of mathematics and we cant predict the next outcome in any manner---These two are universal facts, but by applying certain type of progression, bet selection and shuffling, you can temporarily get benefit fom it. I agree over one thing of urs..there is no single magical formula.Indeed, roulette is all about staking smartly and exit at proper time be in profit or loss. The purpose of this forum is to bring all roulette system players together. You should invest a little time of yours in reading other parts of this forum than keeping yourself busy in the debate of who came first....egg or hen.

[MauiSunset]

You know one thing maui, you are quite a frustrated person. Roulette can't be beaten with any kind of mathematics and we can't predict the next outcome in any manner---These two are universal facts, but by applying certain type of progression, bet selection and shuffling, you can temporarily get benefit fom it. I agree over one thing of urs..there is no single magical formula.Indeed, roulette is all about staking smartly and exit at proper time be in profit or loss. The purpose of this forum is to bring all roulette system players together. You should invest a little time of yours in reading other parts of this forum than keeping yourself busy in the debate of who came first....egg or hen.

Sounds like UFO technology to me, but I'm just one gambler trying to see if Roulette players are beating Roulette with any kind of success.

I've said it before, there are natural born gamblers, like artists, who probably do win at Roulette but they don't need any kind of system because they won't follow it anyway.

Sadly, I don't posses those gambling gifts and must hunt for a system - more than likely I will fail but I will spend a lot of time, money, and effort in this search for 2011.  In 2012 I will be gone from here and you will find me in another chat room with probably the same reaction.

Hang in there guys, just 9 more months and normalcy will return....

[darrynf]

ok maui, you are proberly right about 99%

but dont give me bull shit about ufo's, i amit my sysytem hasnt done many sessions but i really do believe it will hold in the long run, i do have a base on how i chose my numbers and money management is a big key.
not everyone will get the same results cause it changes, some people seem to think pick any random numbers and you will get the same results, who knows maybe. but i have my way, maybe thats not important at all maybe its how i manage my money.

say if you are picking 18 numbers then its a 49/49 for your number to come up and maybe with the money management i do then maybe it will give me the same results. but i dont play it like that cause i play it different and so far it works.

dosent matter what i say to you or how i do things you will be negative to roulette no matter what happens, cause you think its unbeatable, in 99% proberly. i dont know who on here is for real or lieing.
dont care really either, i know what i know and thats all that matters.

i think this thread should be shut down and you gone.

[MauiSunset]

Ok maui, you are proberly right about 99%

but don't give me bull thing about ufo's, I amit my sysytem hasn't done many sessions but I really do believe it will hold in the long run, I do have a base on how I chose my numbers and money management is a big key.
not everyone will get the same results cause it changes, some people seem to think pick any random numbers and you will get the same results, who knows maybe. but I have my way, maybe that's not important at all maybe its how I manage my money.

say if you are picking 18 numbers then its a 49/49 for your number to come up and maybe with the money management I do then maybe it will give me the same results. but I don't play it like that cause I play it different and so far it works.

dosent matter what I say to you or how I do things you will be negative to roulette no matter what happens, cause you think its unbeatable, in 99% proberly. I don't know who on here is for real or lieing.
don't care really either, I know what I know and that's all that matters.

i think this thread should be shut down and you gone.

It took me 20 years to find a stock trading system and I'm only 66% accurate with it - 20 years of very hard work and 6 figures blown.  But I do just fine with it.

I'm only going to spend 1 year with Roulette because I just don't see any way to beat it -  if I ever do I will spend much more time on it.

I'm just one gambler with my own opinion - you might want to silence me but someone has to be asking the hard questions......

[darrynf]

the thing is maui you arnt just giving your opinions you are antaganising everyone.

its fine to give your opinion but you arent really debating in my opinion and you will be right, there will be people here who think they win but lose and for all you know i could be one but the way you say things isnt going to get you any where.

its not easey work mate, stock markets cant be forcast either, not that i can see and it took you hard work to get where you are, roulette cant be forcast either.

i think how ever you play it, its only half of it, the money management is a big thing.

[MauiSunset]

The thing is maui you arnt just giving your opinions you are antaganising everyone.

its fine to give your opinion but you arent really debating in my opinion and you will be right, there will be people here who think they win but lose and for all you know I could be one but the way you say things isnt going to get you any where.

its not easey work mate, stock markets can't be forcast either, not that I can see and it took you hard work to get where you are, roulette can't be forcast either.

i think how ever you play it, its only half of it, the money management is a big thing.

Money management is the only thing left once you stop using voodoo math and science.  The random number output from a wheel or RNG can not be predicted; that's what existing science and math tell us.  I also see nothing with ballistic nonsense - it can't help you with your next bet.

So I agree if Roulette can be beaten it will be by money management.  What are the odds of this after 300 years?  1 in 1,000 probably.

That's just my opinion, others have theirs but in this debate the real, true answer is easy to learn - just play Roulette in real time with a real live wheel.

The truth is so easy to spot....