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Started by MauiSunset, Feb 24, 12:59 PM 2011

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moles40

Quote from: flukey luke on Mar 14, 01:24 PM 2011
Jack's work is certainly interesting.

I started to take a look at it last year and tried to figure it all out.
I think one of the reasons people drop it is because of how subjective the whole thing is.
This seems to be a common theme with more complex methods.
Things like GUT, signum, 4selecta, DNA of roulette and Jack's work do require a lot of thought and study but there are no concrete hard and fast rules which I think most people look for when they are searching for a winning method.

I thought at one point last year that I had a pretty good handle on how this whole positional roulette thing worked and was looking forward to trying it out at the casino. Anyhow, I was having a horror session playing something else one night and must have being down at least 100 units and decided to put my interpretation of positional roulette to work.
Not only did I get back all the losses but I also made a nice bit of profit as well. In a way, it felt very natural playing it. I seemed to be in rhythm with the wheel. On saying that, when you are winning, you could say that about most methods I suppose.

Maybe it is something I will get back to studying some more. I can recommend it going on my own experience with it. The good thing about it as well is that you are just betting 4/5 numbers per round. That alone keeps the bankroll in check when things are not working so well.  :thumbsup:

p.s. The full system is floating around this forum somewhere in a document.

What I like about this system is that you only need one hit in 9 spins to break even.It's very hard to lose your bankroll.

It does need a lot of practise to master and understand how it works.As I said in an earlier post I am getting their slowly I am now averaging 4 hits in 37 spins  so I am very close to hitting the magical 5 hits.

I admit it's not for everyone but its certainly the best and most profitable system I have played  .I will upload the pdf file for people who would like the system when I can find it!

           
Quote from: Johnlegend on Mar 14, 02:38 PM 2011
TOO COMPLEX TO UNDERSTANDÂÃ,¿?

People that's ALL about to change, TWO OF A KIND can be grasped by a 10 year old. It is THE HOLY GRAIL for that reason as well as its astonishing profit to loss/recovery ratio. It doesn't require a degree in math to understand it. I've seen it All in my 20+ years experience with this game. I've seen nothing like TWO OF A KIND. It flows with random instead of asking it to do something. You will see...


Hey nice to see you again Fender.Where have you been. I thought you were maybe playing  THE ZONE in the high rolling tables in Vegas and cleaning them out ;D

And now you say we have TWO OF A KIND  which will have all the casino's running for cover.

Any clues to tease us before the big unveiling this Friday :embarrassed:

Johnlegend

Listen the Zone was good but it wasn't a GRAIL. I could still make a profit with it now. The casual observer couldnt. This is why I had to go away work on some new ideas. Return with the Matrix concept which played Quad on a live wheel. Is invincible but not IMMEDIATE.

Always I have to remind myself even the members on these forums arent the most patient or persistent people on the planet.

They want winning by numbers LITERALLY. Now you will have it. If you don't see the greatness of TWO OF A KIND forget it. The game will never EVER be challenged by the mainstream. But I'm pretty sure the wise on here will get it.

Youll know within days how special this one is. CLUES? Lets just say you will NEVER see a mere 25pts risk work so well.

MauiSunset

Sounds interesting guys - hope to see someone be the first to get my $25 prize and title "I'm for Real".

One of the things that must go through the mind of a Roulette system developer is the fact that once you create the system you must then disguise it so folks can't figure it out.  By doing so your accuracy will decrease, winnings will decrease, and the amount of punishment it deals out will increase.

If someone can break Roulette the word would spread and the casinos would modify Roulette to negate the system or just throw Roulette out the door.  This has not been a problem for 300 years so I doubt that the casinos would react quickly.

My suggestion to folks trying to break Roulette and then demo their system is to NOT tell anyone what the system is - that would be up to folks watching the demo to figure out and up to the developer to decide if he wants to disclose it.

So disguise your system, demo it, and then give us a while to figure out what's going on.  Hopefully we can not figure it out and the developer then has a gold mine - play Roulette until your bank can't hold the money you deposit each night.

Quite frankly if we can't figure it out I have no idea why you would give it away.....

Johnlegend

Quote from: MauiSunset on Mar 14, 06:22 PM 2011
Sounds interesting guys - hope to see someone be the first to get my $25 prize and title "I'm for Real".

One of the things that must go through the mind of a Roulette system developer is the fact that once you create the system you must then disguise it so folks can't figure it out.  By doing so your accuracy will decrease, winnings will decrease, and the amount of punishment it deals out will increase.

If someone can break Roulette the word would spread and the casinos would modify Roulette to negate the system or just throw Roulette out the door.  This has not been a problem for 300 years so I doubt that the casinos would react quickly.

My suggestion to folks trying to break Roulette and then demo their system is to NOT tell anyone what the system is - that would be up to folks watching the demo to figure out and up to the developer to decide if he wants to disclose it.

So disguise your system, demo it, and then give us a while to figure out what's going on.  Hopefully we can not figure it out and the developer then has a gold mine - play Roulette until your bank can't hold the money you deposit each night.

Quite frankly if we can't figure it out I have no idea why you would give it away.....
Mauisunset enough of your $25 gift voucher already, if it were $250 I wouldnt be interested I make a lot more every week playing the game you think can't be beaten.

The reason ROULETTE will always be in casinos is because there will always be plenty of people who think like you. The only people who will be a little concerned will be the casino spies. But then theyll sigh a breath of relief and say something like "wait a minute, what are we worrying for? There will always be too many lazy greedy people who think like Mauisunset" Bust open the bubbly,and it will  be bright lights, dancing girls, spinning wheels and cards dealt as usual. THE HUMAN FACTOR.

malcop

Quote from: Johnlegend on Mar 14, 07:31 PM 2011
Mauisunset enough of your $25 gift voucher already, if it were $250 I wouldnt be interested I make a lot more every week playing the game you think can't be beaten.

The reason ROULETTE will always be in casinos is because there will always be plenty of people who think like you. The only people who will be a little concerned will be the casino spies. But then theyll sigh a breath of relief and say something like "wait a minute, what are we worrying for? There will always be too many lazy greedy people who think like Mauisunset" Bust open the bubbly,and it will  be bright lights, dancing girls, spinning wheels and cards dealt as usual. THE HUMAN FACTOR.
Johnlegend Well Said  :thumbsup:

MauiSunset

Quote from: Johnlegend on Mar 14, 07:31 PM 2011
Mauisunset enough of your $25 gift voucher already, if it were $250 I wouldnt be interested I make a lot more every week playing the game you think can't be beaten.

The reason ROULETTE will always be in casinos is because there will always be plenty of people who think like you. The only people who will be a little concerned will be the casino spies. But then theyll sigh a breath of relief and say something like "wait a minute, what are we worrying for? There will always be too many lazy greedy people who think like Mauisunset" Bust open the bubbly,and it will  be bright lights, dancing girls, spinning wheels and cards dealt as usual. THE HUMAN FACTOR.

Well who else is offering money to demo a Roulette system?  I am willing to pay to watch a winning Roulette system in action.

$25 is just the beginning, if I can't figure out what someone is demonstrating then I'll gladly pay for the knowledge.

I don't expect something for nothing - what, everyone else does?

Mike

Quote from: Johnlegend link=topic=4212. msg42073#msg42073 date=1300145463
THE HUMAN FACTOR. 

The human factor can only contribute so much.   It can prevent you from losing your shirt, but it cannot, by itself, give you an edge. 

It simply isn't enough on its own.   Take away the human factor and you have a system which loses at the expected rate.   Programming a computer to play your system will prove it.   

But maybe I don't understand; what IS the HUMAN FACTOR, exactly?

Please give me your definition, and how it contributes to a winning system. 

Thanks johnlegend. 

hamsup_sotong

some call it skill.... others call it luck :P


cheers
hamsup

moles40

Remember that guy that won a million or so at Monte Carlo that promised he would unvail his system and he did the answer-"I got lucky" :D :D

darrynf

i keep hearing about this two of a kind, but see nothing.

how do i explain this, i think roulette needs skill and theres alot of good systems on here, like flats cwb, i dont understand it so i dont use it but it has a lot of hits and is regarded as very good, must be.

anyway i have never understood johnlegend and have given up on his threads, the zone, dosent work so i have read, i dont think i would play like that but still it look good.

i think john can put anysystem on here and there will be people that will fail, a system is half of it and money management, skill i guess in away has an affect, its proberly more commin sence then anything.
i wont be using this two of a kind system and i dout it will be reverlutionary as john put its. he has a habbit of getting excited, it might be good but if its simple it will be a dud, no system is simple, i am interested in what it is but i have douts.

i have my own system and will keep using it as it works just fine, but hey you can never have to many systems (as long as they win).

anyway it might work well for you john but it might not work for someone else.

Johnlegend

Quote from: Mike on Mar 15, 05:42 AM 2011
The human factor can only contribute so much.   It can prevent you from losing your shirt, but it cannot, by itself, give you an edge.  

It simply isn't enough on its own.   Take away the human factor and you have a system which loses at the expected rate.   Programming a computer to play your system will prove it.  

But maybe I don't understand; what IS the HUMAN FACTOR, exactly?

Please give me your definition, and how it contributes to a winning system.  

Thanks johnlegend.  
Mike I think you have your wires crossed I referred to the HUMAN FACTOR as the reason even a HOLY GRAIL Gift wrapped and sent to every person on the planet wouldnt spell the end of roulette in casinos. PEOPLE in general are Lazy, impatient and jaded. When anyone dares mention this game is beatable.

They will play the lottery, bingo like sheep in hope of winning an instant fortune, but putting the effort into learning and running a method that would absolutely generate profit. Would be too much like hard work.

Where the human factor CAN be linked to success with this game is, DISCIPLINED MINDSET. To run a method and stick to its rules PROPERLY. How many people can REALLY DO IT. Not many I can assure you.

darrynf

i agree with you john on that.

people want something easey and expect to make a fortune, dosent work like that!

Johnlegend

Quote from: darrynf on Mar 15, 06:47 PM 2011
I agree with you john on that.

people want something easey and expect to make a fortune, dosent work like that!
EXACTLY, That is why im humbled that we will now have a method so simple yet effective. Winning no longer looks like a class in advanced math to the casual observer. They will have simplicity and a very immediate profit generator.

darrynf

john what is your method based on, e/c or inside bets?

i also remeber you saying it was another persons method, whos idea was it mate?

Johnlegend

Quote from: darrynf on Mar 15, 07:29 PM 2011
John what is your method based on, e/c or inside bets?

i also remeber you saying it was another persons method, whos idea was it mate?
Hey nice try Darrynf Friday all will be revealed. Youll see..

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