Call it whatever......

[MrJ]

I suck with subject lines. Well, I've been messing with another form of trend betting. I posted something similar in the past but I have it nailed down darn good.

Lets say 45 spins per hour (live or airball). 7 hours per day max., 315 total spins. I am looking for a lousy +3 units on the even bets. Yep, +3 and go home. I bet $200 per spin, so that's +$600 net, go home. My BR.....$5,600. It is a lot, I admit that but $200 per, I need it to be high. I can't walk in with 1K.

Like I posted in the past, I start off with either red or black. Betting on the LAST to show. Hoping to catch a nice streak. If it gets choppy (open to interpretation), I switch to odd/even. If that gets choppy, back to red/black. I really don't mess with high/low, just my preference.


Think about it, +3 in 315 spins, that's it. I believe in the higher bets as opposed to a goal of $600 BUT using $25 units, screw that. I have played over 23 times and have NEVER lost. Worse case so far? Down $3,800. My best? A few times I have won on the FIRST 3 spins, went home. Show me where you can't get to +3 in 315 spins.

Ken

[GLC]

I suck with subject lines. Well, I've been messing with another form of trend betting. I posted something similar in the past but I have it nailed down darn good.

Lets say 45 spins per hour (live or airball). 7 hours per day max., 315 total spins. I am looking for a lousy +3 units on the even bets. Yep, +3 and go home. I bet $200 per spin, so that's +$600 net, go home. My BR.....$5,600. It is a lot, I admit that but $200 per, I need it to be high. I can't walk in with 1K.

Like I posted in the past, I start off with either red or black. Betting on the LAST to show. Hoping to catch a nice streak. If it gets choppy (open to interpretation), I switch to odd/even. If that gets choppy, back to red/black. I really don't mess with high/low, just my preference.


Think about it, +3 in 315 spins, that's it. I believe in the higher bets as opposed to a goal of $600 BUT using $25 units, screw that. I have played over 23 times and have NEVER lost. Worse case so far? Down $3,800. My best? A few times I have won on the FIRST 3 spins, went home. Show me where you can't get to +3 in 315 spins.

Ken

Way to go Ken.  This is in my arsenal of systems that usually wins me a few units.  I have had to quit down a few times, but am ahead overall.  I won't tell my unit size out of embarrassment, but like Flat says, it buys bread and smokes.

I usually shoot for up 20 units.  I use all three even chances, but maybe I'll try focusing on just 2 of them until I get it nailed down a little better.

Thanks again for the system.

George

[catalyst]

hi GlC
YOU and mr J, both has got something immortal with the bet selection. could you please elaborate your bet selection and money management.
wish you both happy hunting.
thanks
catalyst

[MrJ]

I thought about this a little more, I can meet some halfway, thats the best I can do. I would agree, lets say my method was based on betting on an EC for 500 spins per visit to the casino.

I would pick any EC and at the END of the 500 spins, the goal would be +3 units. All 500 spins must be met REGARDLESS if I hit +3 early on. I agree 100%, I would pick wrong more times than correct.

But thats NOT the method. Its +3 (quit). So where is the line drawn? Meaning, lets say my goal was +1 FOR THE DAY, then quit? To make it tougher, the units are not $200, they are $5 units.

Soooo, +$5 we'll say for 9 hours of play. Cant be done? I did not even touch on the subject of betting on the TREND, I left that out of the post.


Ken

[GLC]

I thought about this a little more, I can meet some halfway, that's the best I can do. I would agree, lets say my method was based on betting on an EC for 500 spins per visit to the casino.

I would pick any EC and at the END of the 500 spins, the goal would be +3 units. All 500 spins must be met REGARDLESS if I hit +3 early on. I agree 100%, I would pick wrong more times than correct.

But that's NOT the method. Its +3 (quit). So where is the line drawn? Meaning, lets say my goal was +1 FOR THE DAY, then quit? To make it tougher, the units are not $200, they are $5 units.

Soooo, +$5 we'll say for 9 hours of play. can't be done? I did not even touch on the subject of betting on the TREND, I left that out of the post.


Ken

The other thing that you didn't mention is value of time. 

I know you have talked about it in your other posts, but I think it really comes into play with this system. 

I experience it all the time when I'm playing at my quarter machine.  The systems that require a large progression for a small dollar amount win, are just too difficult to hang with if it takes hours to net something that amounts to less than minimum wage.

We have to understand the phychological aspects of the game and well as the mechanical.

[MrJ]

I agree 100%, this is hypothetical though. I'm asking the guys who say that +3 is impossible......well what about +2 or +1?

Ken

[catalyst]

hi GLC and Mr J
you are both talking over my head which i could not figure out. i just ask you people how do you play--your bet selection with money mgt--thats all.
wish you both happy hunting.
thanks
catalyst

[GLC]

Catalyst,  I have tried my best to put some solid rules to how to play this system.  If you will go to the following link and use the bet method oulined in the opening post coupled with the bet selection method in reply +6, I think you will have as close to a winning system as you can get short of being able to make decisions based on your subjective opinion while you are playing the game.

link:://rouletteforum.cc/money-management/ratio-betting/

Good luck,

George

[albalaha]

I suck with subject lines

Indeed Ken,
        naming a system can be a real trouble at times. However, it can be named to identify its fundamental features. For example, I named one of my best method as "18 on the marquee" and another as "Even Chances Super Shuffle" because they recall the basics of the system. If you have paucity of names, you can number them as Ken's I, etc.  Just kidding.

[Wally Gator]

I think you can put any number in here.  The question is not the number of units.  The question is do you have the discipline to walk away at that number each and every time? 

What is the one thing we have over math, statistics, random, etc .... ?  If you said we are humans and have a brain, you'd be correct.

[MrJ]

 "The question is do you have the discipline to walk away at that number each and every time?" >>> For this method, +3 units on the EC's, $200 per bet, leave with $600. I have done it as quick as 20 minutes, out the door.


Ken

[Wally Gator]

I especially like the idea of moving to the EC that may be streaking.  I'll give this a shot this coming weekend.  Thanks for sharing.  As for the chops, I always follow for 4 and then switch to chop.  Works exceptionally well in Baccarat.  Switch back after another loss of 4 in a row.

[Kav]

Hello Mr.J
You know I'm not a "denier" of profit at roulette, but this is too obviously not working.

(As you say I leave outside the issue of pursuing the trend. There you may indeed have a point. Maybe we should discuss it separately)

But, in simple terms, you claim that every time you play a few hundred spins on Even Chances, both EC will come ahead (over 50% zero included) AT SOME POINT, by 3 outcomes.

Simply this is not true. This is a disaster. And I'm absolutely sure about it from experience.

BUT, I'm open to discussion about the possibility that following the trend, makes a difference.
In that case however I'd bet consistently the even chance that has more wins.

[MrJ]

'Everytime' so far, yes. You DID leave out SWITCHING the EC (when needed). Kelly also left that out during his testing.


Ken

[Kav]

You DID leave out SWITCHING the EC (when needed).

Yep, because you didn't define when is it needed 

If it gets choppy (open to interpretation), I switch to odd/even.

Please interpret for us