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Round & Round for two D/C

Started by Kattila, Mar 16, 05:31 AM 2011

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Kattila

System for bet two dozens or for two columns.
Just play round and round  D1D2/D2D3/D3D1...again D1D2/.....
Trigger is one virtual W, stop at the first L and wait new trigger W.
Progression Leveller 1/1,  2/2,  4/4 if necesary stay on 4/4 until in plus
or hit your stop lose (around -50).

Ex:

NR/Doz

       bet virtual D1/D2

24  W  trigger,bet D2/D3      1/1
17  W  +1   bet D3/D1           1/1
33  W  +2   bet D1/D2           1/1
20  W  +3     D2/D3                1/1
22  W  +4     D3/D1                same.....
1    W  +5     D1/D2
7    W  +6     D2/D3
19  W  +7     D3/D1
9    W  +8     D1/D2
9    W  +9     D2/D3
19  W  +10   D3/D1
30  W  +11   D1/D2
24  W  +12   D2/D3
18  W  +13   D3/D1
31  W  +14   D1/D2
25  L  +12  stop, bet virtual D2/D3
32  W  trigger, bet D3/D1, bet 2/2 units
27  W  +14   D1/D2  reset to 1/1
0    L    +12   stop , bet virtual  D2/D3
22  W  trigger, bet D3/D1, bet 2/2
2    W  +14    D1/D2  reset to 1/1
36  L  +12     stop, bet virtual D2/D3
7    L                                       D3/D1
11  W  trigger, bet D1/D2, bet 2/2
16  W  +14      D2/D3  reset to 1u
33  W  +15      D3/D1
33  W  +16      D1/D2
28  L  +14       stop , bet virtual D2/D3
8    L                                          D3/D1
3    W  trigger, bet D1/D2, bet 2/2
11  W  +16      D2/D3 reset to 1u
1    L   +14       stop, bet virtual D3/D1
9    W  trigger  bet  D1/D2,bet 2/2
23  W  +16      D2/D3  reset to 1/1
17  W  +17      D3/D1
35  W  +18      D1/D2
25  L    +16     stop, bet virtual D2/D3
6    L                                         D3/D1
19  L                                         D1/D2
33  L                                         D2/D3
17  W  trigger bet D3/D1, bet 2/2
6    W  +17     D1/D2  reset to 1/1
31  L  +15      stop ,bet virtual D2/D3
7    L                                        D3/D1
16  L                                        D1/D2
9    W  trigger, bet D2/D3, bet 2/2
12  L  +11       stop, bet virt.  D3/D1
14  L                                       D1/D2
9    W  trigger, bet D2/D3, bet 4/4
9    L  +3         stop , bet virt.  D3/D1
25  W  trigger, bet D1/D2, bet 4/4
24  W  +4     D2/D3  reset to 1/1
7    L  +2       stop, bet virt. D3/D1
18  L                                    D1/D2
5    W  trigger, bet D2/D3, bet 2/2
13  W  +4     D3/D1  reset 1/1
26  W  +5     D1/D2
16  W  +6     D2/D3
19  W  +7     D3/D1
0    L  +5      stop, bet virt.  D1/D2
11  W  trigger, bet D2/D3 , bet 2/2
16  W  +7     D3/D1  reset to 1/1
5    W  +8     D1/D2
33  L  +6       stop bet virt. D2/D3
15  W  trigger bet D3/D1  bet 2/2
33  W  +8     D1/D2  reset to 1/1
15  W  +9     D2/D3
19  W  +10   D3/D1
21  L  +8       stop bet virt. D1/D2
33  L                                  D2/D3
33  W  trigger, bet D3/D1  2/2
4    W  +10      D1/D2  reset to 1/1
5    W  +11      D2/D3
1    L  +9          stop, bet virt. D3/D1
0    L                                       D1/D2
1    W  trigger , bet D2/D3, bet 2/2
36  W  +11       D3/D1  reset to 1/1
18  L  +9          stop , bet virt. D1/D2
29  L                                        D2/D3
17  W  trigger, bet D3/D1, bet 2/2
25  W  +11       D1/D2  reset to 1/1
8    W  +12       D2/D3
24  W  +13       D3/D1
23  L  +11        stop, bet virt.  D1/D2
17  W  trigger, bet D2/D3, bet  2/2
19  W  +13      D3/D1 reset to 1/1
30  W  +14      D1/D2
23  W  +15      D2/D3
35  W  +16      D3/D1
25  W  +17      D1/D2
21  W  +18      D2/D3
8    L  +16       stop ,bet virt. D3/D1
8    W  trigger, bet D1/D2, bet 2/2
11  W  +18      D2/D3 reset to 1/1
24  W  +19      D3/D1
4    W  +20      D1/D2
18  W  +21      and  so on...........


cheers

jon86

Hi Katt.

Nice and easy:)

I will test today.

Jon

atlantis

Very nice, Katt!

One question - what happens if you lose to the ZERO?
Play the same as previous bet - or count as a loser?

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Kattila

Hi Atlantis.
count  as a loser , stop ,take the lose and bet virtual next D/D

...see part from my example from above:
.
.
.
.
32  W  trigger, bet D3/D1, bet 2/2 units
27  W  +14   D1/D2  reset to 1/1
0    L    +12   stop , bet virtual  D2/D3
22  W  trigger, bet D3/D1, bet 2/2
2    W  +14    D1/D2  reset to 1/1
.
.
.........

atlantis

Thanks,

Seems I missed the 0 recorded in your example  :sad2:

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Hermes

I have a huge experience with this tactic but little bit tweaked. It could be very successful:
Mark all 3 columns (I don't mean D/C). 1/2 - 2/3 - 3/1 and bet those 2 where is X missing. Example:
#   1/2 2/3 3/1
7    X          X     bet next spin 2/3
3    X          X     lost, bet next 2/3
32        X    X     won, bet next1/2
13  X    X           won, bet next 1/3
23  X    X           lost, bet next 1/3
22  X    X           lost, wait after 2 L for change of D or C!
22  X    X
1    X          X     trigger, bet next spin 2/3
27        X    X     won, bet next spin 1/2
17  X    X           won, bet next spin 1/3 and so on.

You can reverse the system to bet opposite combination. Bet those where are X.
Example:
#   1/2 2/3 3/1
4    X          X      bet next spin 1/3
34        X    X      won, bet next spin 2/3
14  X    X            won, bet next spin 1/2
14  X    X            won. bet next spin 1/2
25        X    X      lost, bet next spin  2/3
17  X    X            won, bet next spin 1/2
8    X          X      won, bet next spin 1/3 and so on....

The second version is more successful but you can combine them into one system as we did but I let you wizards do it! After 2 losses bet virtually till the column hit. I recommend Leveller progression but you can think other one.
Have a fun because this can be very successful strategy.
Call it "Madar System" as memory on my Hungarian gambling wizard partner we created the system 30 years ago.
Sorry kattila that I jumped into your creation naked.
Hermes



GLC

I have found what I think is a good bet progression for any double dozen system.  It requires a maximum of 404 units, but you will never lose 404 units unless you lose 12 times straight on a double dozen bet.

This is based on the idea I have in my post titled "Threes Please" in the money management section.

This is based on the idea of winning a certain number of bets at a level resulting in a overall hight bank and being able to reset back to 1 unit on both dozens.

We are going to base this progression on winning 4 bets at a level betting 2 dozens.  Here is the bet line:  1-1  2-2  2-2  3-3  5-5  7-7  11-11  16-16  24-24  30-30  45-45  68-68.

I know that looks like a horrendous bet line, but is only represents 404 units and as you'll see, there are some safety brakes we can use to decrease our odds of losing at the 68-68 bet level.

The way we play this bet level is, we start by betting 1-1 on our 2 dozens.  As long as we win, we continue to bet 1-1.  When we lose at 1-1 we move to the 1st 2-2.  If we win 2 times at 2-2, we will be up 2 units and can start over. (If you want, you can start over after winning 1 times at 2-2 because this will put you even).  If you lose before winning, then you immediately move to the 2nd 2-2 bet.  This bet must win 3 times to be even or 4 times to be up 2 units.  You decide. 

If you win 2 times and then lose at any level, do not move to the next higher level.  You will be even for that level and can play again.  You may have a winning streak and not need to go to the next level.  As long as you win 2 before a loss, you can remain that the same level.

If you win 1 time at a level and then lose, you should go ahead and move to the next level.

Anytime you win 4 times at a level, you will be at a high water mark and can reset to 1-1.

If you win and then lose the next bet at a couple of levels, you may find yourself at a new high water mark after only 3 wins at a level.

Safety brake time.  You should shoot for the 4 wins at the levels 2-2  3-3  5-5  7-7.  Remember that we only need to win twice at the 1st level 2-2.

If you find yourself betting at level 11-11 or higher, you should move back to the left after only 2 wins.  After 2 wins calculate at what level you would need to go back to in order for a 4 time win at that level to wipe out your deficit.

Example:  You are at 16-16 and have won 2 times in a row and are down 27 units.  Divide 27 by 4 and you get 7.  Go back to level 7-7 and begin playing to win 4 times at that level which will wipe out your 27 unit deficit +1 units.

The trade-off is that if you had won 2 more times at 16-16 you would recover but since you moved back to 7-7, you must win 4 more times to recover.  On the other hand if you went into another series of losses starting at 16-16 you would run the risk of hitting your maximum bet limit.  At 7-7, you have a 2 level additional cushion.

Example:

-1-1       =  -2
-2-2       =  -6
+2+2     =  -4
-2-2       =  -8
-3-3       =  -14
-5-5       =  -24
-7-7       =  -38
+11+11  =  -27
-11-11   =   -49
+16+16 =  -33
+16+16 =  -17
At this point I divide 17 by 4 and get 5 so I go back to 5-5 because 4 wins puts me up +3.
-5-5      =   -27
-7-7      =   -41
-11-11  =   -63
+16+16=   -47
+16+16=   -31
At this point I divide 31 by 4 and get 8 so I go back to 8-8 even though 8-8 isn't on our progression line, we can make adjustments when needed.
+8+8    =   -23
+8+8    =   -15
+8+8    =   -7
+8+8    =   +1    Reset to 1-1.

The above series is a real series I had in my last session.  Had I not dropped back to 5-5 after winning 16-16 twice, I would have lost 3 bets putting me at betting 45-45 which is almost maxed out and is too risky for my blood.

As it turned out, had I stayed with 16-16 the second time, I would have recovered completely in 2 more spins rather than 4.

To get 4 wins in a row with a decent double dozen system is a common occurrence.

Can you lose with this bet method?  Of course.  Will you lose often?  No!

Is this a valid bet method?  You be the judge.

Enjoy,

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

chrisbis

21 levels of progression at BV on Dozens George.

In other words, a dozen sleeps, and did not even turn over to pull the covers up,
for 21 straight spins........
and yes I was betting on it!!

Wiped my BR out, and I was through those virtual casino double doors, without so much as a-

"Thank You For Playing"...........

I was gutted for the rest of the day.

back to the Roulette drawing board eh George!

GLC

Quote from: chrisbis on Mar 19, 04:21 AM 2011
21 levels of progression at BV on Dozens George.

In other words, a dozen sleeps, and did not even turn over to pull the covers up,
for 21 straight spins........
and yes I was betting on it!!

Wiped my BR out, and I was through those virtual casino double doors, without so much as a-

"Thank You For Playing"...........

I was gutted for the rest of the day.

back to the Roulette drawing board eh George!

Sorry to hear about your bad luck, my friend.  I hope it wasn't money you couldn't afford to lose.  And, I hope it doesn't cause you to give up the good fight.

One good thing about my Ultimate matrix system is if a dozen sleeps, I should be winning every bet, because I'm playing for most recent hits to repeat.  Granted, if I were playing with the 2 opposing bets, a sleeping dozen would kill me, that's why I've decided to only play the 2 dozen bet.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

ADulay

I just happened to catch the tail end of this thread with the "sleeping dozens" killing one of the members here.

For those of you who play the dozens, have you worked this previously mentioned plan but wagering on the last two dozens that hit?   It completely avoids the "sleeping column" nemisis.  In fact, you WANT sleepers to show up!!  The more sleepers, the better!

I've toyed with this one from time to time on small stakes machines and tables while waiting for the wife and it's produced a nice small profit.

Obviously a 1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3 type of run is the downfall, but stop betting for a bit after the first 1,2,3!


Just food for thought for those who regularly must play the dozens.

AD

F_LAT_INO

Quote from: chrisbis on Mar 19, 04:21 AM 2011
21 levels of progression at BV on Dozens George.

In other words, a dozen sleeps, and did not even turn over to pull the covers up,
for 21 straight spins........
and yes I was betting on it!!

Wiped my BR out, and I was through those virtual casino double doors, without so much as a-

"Thank You For Playing"...........

I was gutted for the rest of the day.

back to the Roulette drawing board eh George!
Sorry to hear that mate,but as I said many times
nobody stands a chance with these virtual online casinos.They watch
at your cards and serving you as they wish.No drawing board nor any
tool can beat these beasts.
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

GLC

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Mar 19, 11:52 AM 2011
Sorry to hear that mate,but as I said many times
nobody stands a chance with these virtual online casinos.They watch
at your cards and serving you as they wish.No drawing board nor any
tool can beat these beasts.


Flat my friend,

I live at the drawing board.

My wife's threatening to burn my drawing board.

Geesh.  She has no sense of humor.

Cheers,

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Kattila

Quote from: Hermes on Mar 19, 12:09 AM 2011
I have a huge experience with this tactic but little bit tweaked. It could be very successful:
Mark all 3 columns (I don't mean D/C). 1/2 - 2/3 - 3/1 and bet those 2 where is X missing. Example:
#   1/2 2/3 3/1
7    X          X     bet next spin 2/3
3    X          X     lost, bet next 2/3
32        X    X     won, bet next1/2
13  X    X           won, bet next 1/3
23  X    X           lost, bet next 1/3
22  X    X           lost, wait after 2 L for change of D or C!
22  X    X
1    X          X     trigger, bet next spin 2/3
27        X    X     won, bet next spin 1/2
17  X    X           won, bet next spin 1/3 and so on.

You can reverse the system to bet opposite combination. Bet those where are X.
Example:
#   1/2 2/3 3/1
4    X          X      bet next spin 1/3
34        X    X      won, bet next spin 2/3
14  X    X            won, bet next spin 1/2
14  X    X            won. bet next spin 1/2
25        X    X      lost, bet next spin  2/3
17  X    X            won, bet next spin 1/2
8    X          X      won, bet next spin 1/3 and so on....

The second version is more successful but you can combine them into one system as we did but I let you wizards do it! After 2 losses bet virtually till the column hit. I recommend Leveller progression but you can think other one.
Have a fun because this can be very successful strategy.
Call it "Madar System" as memory on my Hungarian gambling wizard partner we created the system 30 years ago.
Sorry kattila that I jumped into your creation naked.
Hermes




Thanks Hermes for the tweak(s) and you can jump whenever you whant
but not naked..... :P
Btw....Madar(hungarian) = Bird    ( guess why i know that....)

GLC

Quote from: GLC on Mar 19, 01:29 AM 2011
I have found what I think is a good bet progression for any double dozen system.  It requires a maximum of 404 units, but you will never lose 404 units unless you lose 12 times straight on a double dozen bet.

This is based on the idea I have in my post titled "Threes Please" in the money management section.

This is based on the idea of winning a certain number of bets at a level resulting in a overall hight bank and being able to reset back to 1 unit on both dozens.

We are going to base this progression on winning 4 bets at a level betting 2 dozens.  Here is the bet line:  1-1  2-2  2-2  3-3  5-5  7-7  11-11  16-16  24-24  30-30  45-45  68-68.

I know that looks like a horrendous bet line, but is only represents 404 units and as you'll see, there are some safety brakes we can use to decrease our odds of losing at the 68-68 bet level.

The way we play this bet level is, we start by betting 1-1 on our 2 dozens.  As long as we win, we continue to bet 1-1.  When we lose at 1-1 we move to the 1st 2-2.  If we win 2 times at 2-2, we will be up 2 units and can start over. (If you want, you can start over after winning 1 times at 2-2 because this will put you even).  If you lose before winning, then you immediately move to the 2nd 2-2 bet.  This bet must win 3 times to be even or 4 times to be up 2 units.  You decide. 

If you win 2 times and then lose at any level, do not move to the next higher level.  You will be even for that level and can play again.  You may have a winning streak and not need to go to the next level.  As long as you win 2 before a loss, you can remain that the same level.

If you win 1 time at a level and then lose, you should go ahead and move to the next level.

Anytime you win 4 times at a level, you will be at a high water mark and can reset to 1-1.

If you win and then lose the next bet at a couple of levels, you may find yourself at a new high water mark after only 3 wins at a level.

Safety brake time.  You should shoot for the 4 wins at the levels 2-2  3-3  5-5  7-7.  Remember that we only need to win twice at the 1st level 2-2.

If you find yourself betting at level 11-11 or higher, you should move back to the left after only 2 wins.  After 2 wins calculate at what level you would need to go back to in order for a 4 time win at that level to wipe out your deficit.

Example:  You are at 16-16 and have won 2 times in a row and are down 27 units.  Divide 27 by 4 and you get 7.  Go back to level 7-7 and begin playing to win 4 times at that level which will wipe out your 27 unit deficit +1 units.

The trade-off is that if you had won 2 more times at 16-16 you would recover but since you moved back to 7-7, you must win 4 more times to recover.  On the other hand if you went into another series of losses starting at 16-16 you would run the risk of hitting your maximum bet limit.  At 7-7, you have a 2 level additional cushion.

Example:

-1-1       =  -2
-2-2       =  -6
+2+2     =  -4
-2-2       =  -8
-3-3       =  -14
-5-5       =  -24
-7-7       =  -38
+11+11  =  -27
-11-11   =   -49
+16+16 =  -33
+16+16 =  -17
At this point I divide 17 by 4 and get 5 so I go back to 5-5 because 4 wins puts me up +3.
-5-5      =   -27
-7-7      =   -41
-11-11  =   -63
+16+16=   -47
+16+16=   -31
At this point I divide 31 by 4 and get 8 so I go back to 8-8 even though 8-8 isn't on our progression line, we can make adjustments when needed.
+8+8    =   -23
+8+8    =   -15
+8+8    =   -7
+8+8    =   +1    Reset to 1-1.

The above series is a real series I had in my last session.  Had I not dropped back to 5-5 after winning 16-16 twice, I would have lost 3 bets putting me at betting 45-45 which is almost maxed out and is too risky for my blood.

As it turned out, had I stayed with 16-16 the second time, I would have recovered completely in 2 more spins rather than 4.

To get 4 wins in a row with a decent double dozen system is a common occurrence.

Can you lose with this bet method?  Of course.  Will you lose often?  No!

Is this a valid bet method?  You be the judge.

Enjoy,

George

The following is Kattila's posted session with my bet method shown in conjunction with his.

NR/Doz

24  W  trigger,bet D2/D3     
17  W  +1   bet D3/D1           1/1     +1
33  W  +2   bet D1/D2           1/1     +2
20  W  +3     D2/D3                1/1    +3   
22  W  +4     D3/D1                etc...
1    W  +5     D1/D2
7    W  +6     D2/D3
19  W  +7     D3/D1
9    W  +8     D1/D2
9    W  +9     D2/D3
19  W  +10   D3/D1
30  W  +11   D1/D2
24  W  +12   D2/D3
18  W  +13   D3/D1
31  W  +14   D1/D2                                                         +14
25  L  +12  stop, bet virtual D2/D3         -1-1    -2
32  W  trigger, bet D3/D1, bet 2/2 units  +2+2   0
27  W  +14   D1/D2  reset to 1/1             +1+1   +1         +15
0    L    +12   stop , bet virtual  D2/D3     -1-1    -2
22  W  trigger, bet D3/D1, bet 2/2            +2+2   0
2    W  +14    D1/D2  reset to 1/1             +1+1   +1        +16
36  L  +12     stop, bet virtual D2/D3        -1-1    -2
7    L                                       D3/D1        -2-2    -6
11  W  trigger, bet D1/D2, bet 2/2             +2+2  -4
16  W  +14      D2/D3  reset to 1u              +2+2  -2
33  W  +15      D3/D1                                 +2+2   0
33  W  +16      D1/D2                                 +1+1   +1      +17
28  L  +14       stop , bet virtual D2/D3      -1-1     -2
8    L                                          D3/D1      -2-2     -6
3    W  trigger, bet D1/D2, bet 2/2              +2+2   -4
11  W  +16      D2/D3 reset to 1u                +2+2   -2
1    L   +14       stop, bet virtual D3/D1       -2-2     -6
9    W  trigger  bet  D1/D2,bet 2/2              +3+3    -3
23  W  +16      D2/D3  reset to 1/1              +3+3    0  Obviously you could start over here.
17  W  +17      D3/D1                                  +3+3    +3      +20
35  W  +18      D1/D2                                  +1+1    +1      +21
25  L    +16     stop, bet virtual D2/D3        -1-1      -2
6    L                                         D3/D1        -2-2      -6
19  L                                         D1/D2        -2-2      -10
33  L                                         D2/D3        -3-3      -16
17  W  trigger bet D3/D1, bet 2/2               +5+5    -11
6    W  +17     D1/D2  reset to 1/1               +5+5    -6
31  L  +15      stop ,bet virtual D2/D3         -5-5      -16  I didn't increase  to 7-7 because I won 2 times at this level before I lost which leaves me at even for the 5-5 level
7    L                                        D3/D1          -7-7      -30
16  L                                        D1/D2          -11-11   -52
9    W  trigger, bet D2/D3, bet 2/2               +16+16  -36
12  L  +11       stop, bet virt.  D3/D1           -16-16    -68
14  L                                       D1/D2           -24-24   -116
9    W  trigger, bet D2/D3, bet 4/4               +30+30  -86  At this point we could consider dropping back to 24-24 as a safety brake.  I will stay with the progression instead.
9    L  +3         stop , bet virt.  D3/D1           -30-30    -146
25  W  trigger, bet D1/D2, bet 4/4                +45+45  -101
24  W  +4     D2/D3  reset to 1/1                  +68+68   -32   Right here I would divide 32 by 4 and get 8.  I would drop down to betting 8-8 as a safety brake.
7    L  +2       stop, bet virt. D3/D1                -8-8        -48
18  L                                    D1/D2                -11-11    -70
5    W  trigger, bet D2/D3, bet 2/2                 +16+16  -54
13  W  +4     D3/D1  reset 1/1                        +16+16  -38  38 divided by 4 = 9-9
26  W  +5     D1/D2                                       +8+8       -30
16  W  +6     D2/D3                                       +8+8       -22
19  W  +7     D3/D1                                       +8+8       -14
0    L  +5      stop, bet virt.  D1/D2                -8-8         -30
11  W  trigger, bet D2/D3 , bet 2/2                +8+8       -22
16  W  +7     D3/D1  reset to 1/1                   +8+8       -14
5    W  +8     D1/D2                                       +8+8       -6
33  L  +6       stop bet virt. D2/D3                 -8-8         -22
15  W  trigger bet D3/D1  bet 2/2                 +8+8        -14
33  W  +8     D1/D2  reset to 1/1                   +8+8       -6
15  W  +9     D2/D3                                       +8+8       +2         +23     
19  W  +10   D3/D1                                       +1+1       +1         +24
21  L  +8       stop bet virt. D1/D2                 -1-1          -2
33  L                                  D2/D3                 -2-2          -6
33  W  trigger, bet D3/D1  2/2                      +2+2         -4
4    W  +10      D1/D2  reset to 1/1               +2+2         -2               
5    W  +11      D2/D3                                   +2+2          0
1    L  +9          stop, bet virt. D3/D1            -1-1            -2
0    L                                       D1/D              -2-2           -6
1    W  trigger , bet D2/D3, bet 2/2               +2+2          -4
36  W  +11       D3/D1  reset to 1/1               +2+2          -2
18  L  +9          stop , bet virt. D1/D2            -2-2            -6 I didn't go to 3-3 because I had won twice at this level before losing.  Therefore I was even for the 2nd 2-2 level.
29  L                                        D2/D3            -2-2           -10   
17  W  trigger, bet D3/D1, bet 2/2                  +3+3         -7
25  W  +11       D1/D2  reset to 1/1                 +3+3         -4
8    W  +12       D2/D3                                     +3+3         -1
24  W  +13       D3/D1                                     +3+3         +2      +26
23  L  +11        stop, bet virt.  D1/D2               -1-1          -2 
17  W  trigger, bet D2/D3, bet  2/2                  +2+2           0
19  W  +13      D3/D1 reset to 1/1                   +1+1           +1     +27
30  W  +14      D1/D2                                      +1+1          +1     +28
23  W  +15      D2/D3                                      +1+1          +1     +29
35  W  +16      D3/D1                                      +1+1          +1     +30
25  W  +17      D1/D2                                      +1+1          +1     +31
21  W  +18      D2/D3                                      +1+1          +1     +32
8    L  +16       stop ,bet virt. D3/D1                -1-1            -2
8    W  trigger, bet D1/D2, bet 2/2                 +2+2           0         
11  W  +18      D2/D3 reset to 1/1                  +1+1         +1     +33
24  W  +19      D3/D1                                     +1+1        +1      +34
4    W  +20      D1/D2                                    +1+1         +1      +35
18  W  +21      and  so on...........                    +1+1        +1       +36

This is a good session to show the strengths and the weaknesses of this betting system.  I would say that the above sequence is one of the bad sequences to be encountered for my bet method.  Not that there won't be some this bad and even some worse.  That's why we must be flexible with our safety brake.  Sometimes we may have to use it after only 1 win at the higher levels.

The difficult section had a run with 12 losses vs 6 wins.  Normal is 12 wins vs 6 losses, so you can see that is very skewed.

Playing my system next to kattila's, which is also a very good bet method, it indicates that if I were to incorporate the same bet/don't bet triggers it would be an even better system.

I'm not sure that it is as good as kattila's now that I put them both next to each other.

In all fairness I must tip my hat to Kattila and recommend that he publish this bet method under the money management section as I think it is an excellent double dozen bet method.

Cheers,

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Kattila

George,
thanks for all your efforts, progressions,  MM ideas ....
always welcome budy...
This method (and many others two doz/col methods) has
to be tested with different progressions , MMs...etc...
Let s find the best ones, and also the best bet selections,
and find something that kill random, something that random
cannot  do....

cheers


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