An open letter to all members or guests that have a BetVoyager account.

[ThomasGrant]

Dear Sir, Madam...
Hi, my name is Thomas R. Grant
I am a active forum member.
And I have a request.

If you have a account with BetVoyager.
Please send them an email and complain to them about their new policy for
mutually exclusive bets

link:://rouletteforum.cc/tom%27s-place/betvoyager-casino-a-review-by-thomas-r-grant/

Members and guest that have a BetVoyager may notice this message when placing a bet on Red and Black to get a free spin.

Please send as many complaints as possible to BetVoyager.
And keep on sending them.

They may end up reverting back to what they had before.

[chrisbis]

Thomas.

I too have tried to be proactive in this matter, and have some news for U, and the Forum.


After forwarding a letter to BV support,
I have been contacted by BV with regard to setting up a Partnership with the.

Here's their reps email to me.
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And this was my open invitation, to BV, asking if (like other Casino's have done before),
they would like an membership here at The Forum, and be able to answer question, bring promotions, and generally chat about the game of Roulette.

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Hopefully, I will have a good initial discussion with them, and invite this Representative, to come along here, apply form a membership, and join Us.

Cheers Tom.

[ThomasGrant]

Thanks Chris.
Sure hope they come here.
Keep me and the others informed.

[LeoLeo11]

Awesome Chris!... Bravo!

Now, nothing but I would ask the moderators to delete all posts where it's mentioned about bots and especially running on BV!

If the NEW BV member read them, they could change their platform as all that we wouldn't know it any more!

...maybe the minimum will be raised from 0,01 to 1.00

[ThomasGrant]

Awesome Chris!... Bravo!

Now, nothing but I would ask the moderators to delete all posts where it's mentioned about bots and especially running on BV!

If the NEW BV member read them, they could change their platform as all that we wouldn't know it any more!

...maybe the minimum will be raised from 0,01 to 1.00

Pffttt.
Na...
Not going to do that.
No way.
I only use bots on casinos.
Have done so for many years.

[LeoLeo11]

OK,...will see that Tom!

[chrisbis]

Bots are not a problem for the casino's.

All Bots lose at some point.

What is at stake here, is the sudden change to the Rules, The table limits and the Formulation of this Mutually Exclusive Bet for No-where!!

We want answers, and we want then now.

I am chatting the the BV rep on Skype later this evening, after she has picked finished work.

I'm hoping for a frank and lively debate/discussion all a range of subjects, so........

This is to ALL Forum Members......

IF U HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS U WOULD LIKE ANSWERING, PLEASE LIST THEM UP.

I'll open a sister topic.thread to this one, and see if any questions/comments arise for BV rep to answer.

Be bold, be daring, but above all..............be honest.

(BTW, they already knew about, and have visited the Forum on previous occasions, as a Guest, so deleting stuff now, would be Futile.)

[LeoLeo11]

Sorry Chris, I had no intention to offend...anyone!

I can see your honest efforts to help at this situation!

...but I always try to see the other side of the medal

I'm not fully agree that the casinos not afraid of the bots.

If a bot  begins with the minimum and with a decent system with the right money management/progression...with all the right settings and runs all day..., it may do a stable income even with that minimum wager!

...and if this bot runs with 2-3 well set systems at the same time, it may earn even very good income!
I don't think that the casino owners are idiots! ...now when the mutual bets are not possible the bots couldn't run!

Maybe they do that because of bots,...maybe, Who knows?

I would touch the other topic here... Tiago has enormous number of custom bot orders at the moment!

I know that because I'm on their waiting list for a bot, too!

There are custom bots that outmatch RBotPro(Sorry Tom) a hundred times, I don't know about Super Roulette!

...for example: (virtual losses, many and defferent kinds of progressions, switch over from one progress. to other at some stage of the game, many kinds of stops, stop after LL or LLL, many other functions and specifications etc., etc. etc.)
I afford myself to write this because of these members who are interested of bots.

Anyway, maybe the future are on bots, but this is another topic!

[crownroyal]

Hey Guys,

I also thought it was strange for BV to come up with a policy that prohibits mutually exclusive bets (red/ black etc.). They still allow completely free spins without placing a bet. The free spin's are obviously more advantageous than the mutually exclusive (red/black) bet, because the players are not vulnerable to the zero. Their new policy doesn’t make sense.

[esoito]

"Their new policy doesn’t make sense. "

LOL...it sure does to BV !!

[darrynf]

Hey Guys,

I also thought it was strange for BV to come up with a policy that prohibits mutually exclusive bets (red/ black etc.). They still allow completely free spins without placing a bet. The free spin's are obviously more advantageous than the mutually exclusive (red/black) bet, because the players are not vulnerable to the zero. Their new policy doesn’t make sense.

do they allow free spins without betting ?

if so then why is every one challenging it ?

[ThomasGrant]

do they allow free spins without betting ?

if so then why is every one challenging it ?

You only get 4 free spins.

[darrynf]

i see.

4 isnt enough for me. but i can play 0.01 cent bets ?

[ThomasGrant]

I see.

4 isnt enough for me. but I can play 0.01 cent bets ?

Yes

[chrisbis]

You only get 4 free spins.

Its only 3 free spins on the No Zero Roulette.

On the third and final spin, a warning pop-up, alerts U to the fact that this is Ur last Empty Spin.

U then have to place at least 1 bet before getting a further Three free spins (Empty Spin)

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