An open letter to all members or guests that have a BetVoyager account.

[darrynf]

thats all good.

how did your chat go chris with bv

[chrisbis]

thats all good.

how did your chat go chris with bv

Not happened yet.

They (B V) are 4 hours behind me in time Zones.
Me -UK
B V- Antilles (Off the coast of Venezuela)

so timing will be the issue here.

I fell sleep (couldn't stop the matches from snapping under the eye lids) last night at 12, and I bet Nicole (the B V Rep) was only just having her evening meal!

So..................that gives members here, more time to get those all important questions down,
in the Other Topic that's next to this one.

If Players want answers.........................I need questions to ask.

I will also be offering to bring B V rep here as a full member,
and then we will have greater access to this great casino operator.

[darrynf]

i think that will be a mistake chris.

they dont care about the forum or the people here, they just want to know the most common way of playing or what they can do to stop us from winning.

i think its a mistake to bring them here. but in saying that im sure they can see anyway as a guest so it may have some benifits but dont see it.

[chrisbis]

I think U've got to re-think how we interact with casino's,

How we get access to them quicker, when problems/situations arise.

Ur version of how we treat casino's, and U see them treating us, is somewhat off the mark, with the way things are in the 21st century.

They are now professionally run, multi-million dollar companies.
Usually highly regulated, have share-holders who yes, want the fastest buck possible, but also
would not want to associated with 'EnRoN' type accounting, or 'Dodgy' performance practices.

I for one, think we will learn more by having them (or access to them ) IN-House, rather than being Out Side, and We only have THEIR front door, as a means to enquirer or ask questions.

I hope U see my----------W I D E R point.

[darrynf]

i see your viewes mate.

it goes both ways, they see what we do and what we say.

you may think it may help us and it may do but then they will see what the average is up to.

so it goes both ways.

[LeoLeo11]

I see your viewes mate.

it goes both ways, they see what we do and what we say.

you may think it may help us and it may do but then they will see what the average is up to.

so it goes both ways.

Fully agree with you Darrynf!

It's like people say: ..."to get the Wolf in the sheep-pen"

I hope to be wrong!...but to get a casino for frendship to players , it's a little bit  much for me, Sorry!

[chrisbis]

Fully agree with you Darrynf!

It's like people say: ..."to get the Wolf in the sheep-pen"

I hope to be wrong!...but to get a casino for frendship to players , it's a little  much for me, Sorry!

But chaps................forgive me for pointing the OBVIOUS.

They are here already!!

Celtic casino (Live Video feed) = [attachimg=#1]


Fairway casino (same live feed)+ [attachimg=#2]

And I'm certain there are more.

I'd rather know, than go boldly around here,
thinking I'm protected from Public viewing, by some Invisible Shield?

Sorry to show U the reality boys.

And they sometimes bring nice promotions/news to the Forum.   

[LeoLeo11]

"But chaps................forgive me for pointing the OBVIOUS.

They are here already!!"
True!!!

Who could stop them to be here!

[F_LAT_INO]

Since don't trust online casinos/except DB/and cause will be
forced to play online very soon I choose DB,regardless of their
ridiculous limits.Therefore one must have a method that wins
inside these limits.But also noticed since these casino members
arived the trafic on this forum has droped down 100%.....rarely
anybody post any ideas any longer.

[darrynf]

im not a old member but i think flat is right about this.

but like you said chris they are here anyway. you do know why they come here.

they may give promotions but theres always some catch, i dont play bonus money and to be honest i wouldnt post any systems in here if i knew casinos were her.

i could be wrong and it might not matter but it dosent feel right to me.

well im convinced to open an account with bv oneday.

but casinos are here to see how we play, they arent stupid.

[atlantis]

BV NOZERO ROULETTE

FREESPIN SOLUTION
===============

1.5 on LOW
0.5 on 19-24
1.0 on DOZ 3

=3u

RETURN=3u

Also works in AUTOMODE !



Now you can have freespins!

A.

[chrisbis]

BV NOZERO ROULETTE

1.5 on LOW
0.5 on 19-24
1.0 on DOZ 3

=3u

RETURN=3u

Also works in AUTOMODE !
Now you can have freespins!
A.

well done Atlantis.

please post up this in the questions section, so I can 'Throw' it at B V to show them how ridiculous the stopping of the Mutual Exclusive Bet was IF the players want free spins after the THREE free spins.
Here cox.

[esoito]

I share some of darrynf's concerns. Yet I also agree with Chris' reality-checks -- they're here already.

Let's face it -- regardless of whether or not a rep is invited to join anyone can sign up under an anonymous user name. Just like we all do as a security measure!!

King Canute couldn't hold back the tide -- neither can we...

[ThomasGrant]

Dear, ThomasGrant

We banned mutually exclusive bets at the same time. For example: you cannot bet on both black and red at the same time, on dozen, columns. And even players playing for "fun" the same rule applies.

I did say that they would do nothing.
And here is even more proof.

No matter how many of us complain.
No matter how many emails we send.
It looks like the changes are permanent.

Thank you for all you help.
And thanks to all of you, that have sent in emails to BetVoyager.

I think they know that many of us are not happy.
My guess is that not enough emails have been sent in.
Or that even if they get a 100 or more.
That they will still not change.

It's odd.
I can get free spins at most online Casinos.

[esoito]

THOMAS

I'm seriously wondering if they've made these changes because of the bots.

You took an awful lot of money from them a while back -- I clearly recall your regular updates on your amazing progress!   

Lots of other bots with the "right" settings (the secret to success) will also be sucking in the casino's cash.

They're not going to tolerate that sort of haemorrhaging indefinitely.

So in a classic pincer movement they've:

* cut out the free spins (bots rely on those)

* messed around with limits (makes the bots' progressions less viable)

To every attack there's a counter-attack...and they've done it in spades. And I predict more upsets to follow...