Questions arising From-An Open Letter to BetVoyager Marketing. Please fire away.

[chrisbis]

Thanks Atlantis.

I don't think, the 'Free Spin' was the target here.

I think they could see, there was a punitive advantage being made, by having the:-

'Differential Bet' ................on the Mutuals.

i.e.............bet on all three dozens, no zero to upset the progression.......the only thing that stops it,
is................................progression/table limits.

Bet on all three Columns.....................same scenario.

Not so sure about the EC's, since Marty is the work-horse here, and the Table limits will ALWAYS kill U  !!

[atlantis]

Thanks Atlantis.

I don't think, the 'Free Spin' was the target here.

I think they could see, there was a punitive advantage being made, by having the:-

'Differential Bet' ................on the Mutuals.

i.e.............bet on all three dozens, no zero to upset the progression.......the only thing that stops it,
is................................progression/table limits.

Bet on all three Columns.....................same scenario.

Not so sure about the EC's, since Marty is the work-horse here, and the Table limits will ALWAYS kill you  !!

Yes - I am inclined to agree with you ChrisBis 

A.

[chrisbis]

[felt]
1.0@L
0.5@19
1.0@D3
[/felt]

Testing only folks.

The Double street (LINE) (6 number) function, is not quite ready yet to show this bet for free spin by  Atlantis.

So the 0.5 on Line 19 shows as flat bets on one of the numbers- wrong!!

Don't bet that one for a free ride!!  

Here's the real deal (thanks to Member - Atlantis) ................- Screen shot

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[crownroyal]

Hey Chris,

That's a great list of questions for your chat with the BV Rep. Regarding their new mutually exclusive betting policy, darrynf posted a good idea on another thread. Use the .01 chips for tracking, etc. It isn't as good as the free bet but we won't lose too much betting pennies. 

[chrisbis]

That's............ Use the .01 chips for tracking, etc. ......betting pennies.  

Well, pound for pound, its not a bad idea.
But if U really think pennies are worth risking why not try this one eh?

(and its not a Mutually Exclusive bet either)

The risk.....................3 cents/pennies if U will.
Ignore the Zero, (for No-Zero Bet Voyager), the code for the felt display, is nearly done, but not quite.
Ultimately, have a felt display for all three types of wheel/Table- NoZero/ European/American

[felt]
0.01@L,B,O
[/felt]

[crownroyal]

Excellent idea Chris. I'd rather win a penny,instead of losing one.

[iggiv]

i think u guys are making mistake about  it. If u use one of your "tricky bets" with 3 units for long time on autobet u gonna lose, if u use combination u can win some or lose, but it will take your time for pennies.

Now compare what happens if u use just 1 c on red, black or other EC switching them from time to time.

[esoito]

BIG PAT ON THE BACK FOR CHRIS:

That was a superb summary of questions and points you'll take up with BV.

Well done!! 

[esoito]

@Chris

So rather than simply speculate about bots please ask them outright if the changes they are making is anything to do with bots.

You might even be told the truth... 

[chrisbis]

A summary of the questions asked so far-UPDATE SUNDAY EVENING..

1. Why has BV changed the rules on Mutually Exclusive bets?

2. Are Mutually exclusive bets available on Zero tables (European/American Style)?

3. If no Mutually Exclusive bets, can we have an ever-lasting Free Spins button- as other RNG casino's do?

4. Why have the table limits been altered, esp the Dozens/Columns bet when U have removed the possibility of betting on all Three Dozens/Columns, and therefore Double punished players? The bet is now smaller, but so is the progression possibility!

5. Specifically, why has the Maximum table limit on flat bets been lowered from 100 to 10 (No Zero), this seems at odds to me, given that on the one hand, U want to 'Reward' players for leaving their monies in the Bet Cruise account, with an Inflation top up, but want players to bet LESS on the tables?

6. Just to repeat the request-..... more free spins, as Its being asked by more than one player, and I want to 'Weight' the questions as they are asked.

7. Connection speeds and problems.
   Several players(incl. myself) quite often see the wheel spinning endlessly, and not  delivering a result.
Are these connection issues our (player)-end issues with our server(s), or real time problems with Satellite connections Ur end?

8. Some other RNG Roulette casino, have a quick spin option- is that a possibility, that the SHA-256 10 number fall-out output, could be 'dumped' onto the table as a single spin button?

8a. Or a quick spin option to just produce faster results.
most players at other casino RNG's, turn off the animation of the 'Pretend wheel' when they play............so could BV do that too?

9. Again- just giving weight to the Q.- Why does the wheel appear to get stuck, and endlessly spin. (connection issues I guess?)

10. If free spins are a real issue for the whole formate of B V game on Roulette, could U put in a 'Spin every Minute' option, as is the case at most AIRBALL/SLINGSHOT wheels?
then the player, would still get the SHA-256 random results, but a nice steady controlled pace, and any bets would be on the 'Traffic-Light' control situation, and a player would Know how long they have to bet.

11. Could U warn players when BV, Bet Cruise, is about to perform downtime/maintenance?
BV must know (or they software engineers/coders/programmers must know), when U are going to do this maintenance in advance, since they must have to inform the management that the casino will be down for business.
It is at the moment, an arrogant action on the part of BV, to not warn players, since Ur members are from ALL times zones throughout the world, and some players could be only part way through there session, and MAY be, in a recovery position, if they have lost (in a losing position), at the time BV decides to stop/halt the game for maintenance.
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I suggest a half hour warning to players currently in a game, with a half hour or less warning countdown, to new players who about to enter the casino (which ever game that is).
Its the fairest way to be honest and up-front with players, and gives them plenty of time to exit their game in a controlled pace, and also to move their money back into the Bet Cruise portal, instead of being left on a game.

12. In other RNG casino game G.U.I. the hovering of the mouse/hand over a table/felt number, usually shows how many chips are down on an individual number (or bet zone).
With B V casino window being quite small, (I know we have the option to make Full Size), its very difficult to know what that value is.
Could we have such a helpful indicator showing total chip value, either at the chip position, or on the indicator board at the top of the gaming window?

13. When a bet has been placed, and the spin wheel has been clicked, the amount (total) placed on the table, is then not viewable- ANYWHERE on the table, in any formate!
B V, are the ONLY casino that I know of, that at this precise moment in the game, (and esp when the wheel spins for what seems like three weeks), a player can not see what their last bet is!!
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Why does B V have to remove the game window indicator, with the bet value on it, when players know (and the physics of the game don't allow any other outcome), that we can not add any more bets to the table?
The spin button disappears anyway- so why not show how much a player has 'spent' in the current bet that is spinning?
Just change the indicator window at the top, to reflect- 'LAST WON' and 'CURRENT BET'

14. An out-right question to B V, as to whether it was the Use of 'Bots' (robot computer aid devices I think we mean here) that have been used and detected at their casino?
Is that the reason for the New rules/alterations?

15..........(more questions please ladies and gents)
especially like to see question arising from player experiences with B V Support, and any other services U have encountered.
I have questions, but I will 'Collate' them together!
Sometimes, B V support does not exist at all!

[ThomasGrant]

Thanks Chris.
Sure hope they will answer then.

Perhaps you could ask why they don't give satisfactory answers to questions.

[F_LAT_INO]

Cause they exist of winnings and not of losing,
and any players attempt to change it,they just
change the rules.After all don't you all think they
don't read these posts of ours.I wonder how our friend
James/is that his name???/feels now after introducing
his 3 doz. bet with 30 step progression openly on forum.

[chrisbis]

Bet he is gutted.

Unless he was from the................................?

[chrisbis]

Nicole Sims, from B V has finally been in Touch.

The questions have been sent!

Some answer Tomorrow Hopefully.

I will keep U The Forum informed.

chris