*TWO OF A KIND* (Rapid Fire)

[jon86]

Hi Jon

23   Now we bet 1+3 dozen
21 Result 2 doz (red)we lose. So we bet again 1+3 doz level 1 @ 3-3 stakes Result 1 doz. We win

Super ZIGZAG

I understand now

[Johnlegend]

Ok.

So if I lose the first I bet on it one more time and stopp and wait for new trigger 2 different dozen and I bet again only next level of progression?

Jon

Yes, Jon. But for a few days now I've been contemplating a tweak that turns this method into a whole different animal. THE REAL POWER OF THIS METHOD ISNT ITS POTENTIAL LONG WINNING STREAKS.

ITS *TRUE POWER* Is its short losing streaks. What I'm saying here is instead of playing blindly until we hit a losing game and then having to GRIND OUT A RECOVERY. We turn OUR ENEMY into OUR TRIGGER.

Remember it takes *8* wins to recover one loss at LEVEL 1 STAKES. Why put ourselves through that? When yesterday for example I Played 220 spins (98 GAMES). In That span there were 10 losing games. Among those only one DOULBE LOSS.

I  believe tweaking this method to make a LOSING GAME our trigger, Turns it into a much better METHOD. Its got a fast enough turnover to make the wait more than WORTHWHILE. I will later today post an example from my real results to illustrate this.

[jon86]

Jon mate,

Yes, I think you are getting it.  When you have 2 different dozens such as

33
13  Right here you have 2 different dozens so bet against the 1 dozen or bet 1-1 on doz 2 & 3.
21  We win our 1-1 bet because doz 2 hit.  Since we won, we don't have to bet again.  We also have two different dozens so another bet against doz 2 so we bet doz 1 & 3 next.
21  We lost our 1-1 bet because a 2 spun so we must bet our 3-3 bet which wins because 1 doz hit.  We also have another trigger with two different dozens showing.  Since 3-3 won, we go back to betting 1-1 against dozen 2.
22  Uh oh.  We lost our 1-1 and our 3-3 bet because doz 2 hit twice.  Now we have to go to the next level of 2-2 and 6-6.
23  We lost our 2-2 bet also.  That makes us down 12 units in the last 3 bets.  This is also where some of the guys are recommending skipping a slot and moving the 2 to the 2nd position and the 3 to the 1st position on the next line.  Or we can just bet 6-6 which will win.  We also have a new trigger so we bet 2-2 again on dozens 1 & 3.
12  We win our 2-2 bet.

The way I understand it is that we continue to bet 2-2 & 6-6 until we recover our losses then we go back to 1-1 & 3-3 until we have 2 losses in a row.

An option is if we lose 1-1 & 3-3 and we lose 2-2 and 6-6, we can bet 1 time 8-8 &  24-24 as a means of recovering losses in 1 bet.

That's the basics as I understand them, my friend.

LoL,

George

Thanks George. Very good explained 

Jon

[jon86]

Hi Jon

23   Now we bet 1+3 dozen
21 Result 2 doz (red)we lose. So we bet again 1+3 doz level 1 @ 3-3 stakes Result 1 doz. We win

What progression is the best to use.

And how many times after a level loss do we stay on the next level progression?

Jon

[ZigZag]

Hi Jon

After a LL

I move up to level 2

I stay at level 2 for 3 wins then drop back to level 1

I do this for all the levels. Move up after LL drop back each level after 3 wins

[jon86]

Hi Jon

After a LL

I move up to level 2

I stay at level 2 for 3 wins then drop back to level 1

I do this for all the levels. Move up after LL drop back each level after 3 wins

Thanks. So only progression 11.33.22.66?

Jon

[ZigZag]

Thanks. So only progression 11.33.22.66?

Jon

I was using a 3rd level of 3-3 9-9 also which if need be gives me room to use a 4th level, but i think most on here are using 8-8 24-24 at level 3 for one or 2 spins.

[jon86]

I was using a 3rd level of 3-3 9-9 also which if need be gives me room to use a 4th level, but I think most on here are using 8-8 24-24 at level 3 for one or 2 spins.

Thanks

[ZigZag]

Johnlegend

Have you ever seen LLLLL before? I only ever see LL and then its broken up with at least 1 W like this LLwLL

Surely we can take advantage of this with zero coverd later in progression, or dose your data suggest otherwise  

[atlantis]

I  believe tweaking this method to make a LOSING GAME our trigger, Turns it into a much better METHOD. Its got a fast enough turnover to make the wait more than WORTHWHILE. I will later today post an example from my real results to illustrate this.

Hi JohnLegend,

That's interesting John...

I've been trying something along similar lines.

A.

[Twisteruk]

Hi JohnLegend,

That's interesting John...

I've been trying something along similar lines.

A.

I liked ure proposal A

Needs testin maybe 

[Proofreaders2000]

I'd like to add a mod for 2ofK

CC
AB<only bet left when above is the same (in this case bet a)

BB
BC<bet b

AA
cb<bet c
-----------------------------------------------
may slow it down some, but still fairly quick

[theway2go]

Could someone please tell  me want I'm doing wrong
Test live wheel

13
21    W    B 11 +1
02    L L  B 11  33  -7
33
33
21
22  L L  B  22  66  -23
21
11  W   B  88         -15
12
22  W   B 22         -13
13
13 L W   B22  66     -11
32 W     B 22          -9
33 L L    B 22  66    -25
11
32
12 W     B 22             -23
13 L W  B22          -21
11  L L  B 22 66   -37
21
32 W    B22          -35
21 W    B22         -33
32 W    B22        -31
33 L L   B22 66    -47

I may be using  the wrong live casino because everyone seems to be winning.

Doesnt look like you went past progession of 2? most if not all of your losses would have been avoided if you just doubbled up again or am i not reading this right?

[ROB22]

I was using the 1,1  3,3  first game
and 2,2  6,6 2nd game and when I lost two games
in a row 8,8  24,24 only once then back down to 2,2

[moles40]

Been thinking of a different staking plan.A sort of  dlembert.

If you lose you move up a point and stay at that level for 2 wins in a row before moving down a level.

1 lose  -2
2 win  0
2 lose  -4
3 win   -1
3 win  +2
2 win   +4
1 win  +5