*TWO OF A KIND* (Rapid Fire)

[ScoobyDoo]

Hi Eluka,

Since I never saw what "Relaxed Roulette" looked like, I have no idea if it is similar or not.

As long as it is working for you, what does it matter?

Scooby Doo

[GLC]

I have been testing this rapid fire system with a pluscoup on the double dozens and it's been working just fine.

Actually, John started it with his 1-1; 3-3 then 2-2; 6-6.  All  you do is continue with the progression until you are at a new high water mark.  So if you lose at 1-1 & 3-3, you play 2-2 & 6-6 until you reach a new high in your bank or lose a 2 bet at this level.  Then you move to 3-3 & 9-9 and stay at this level until you recover completely or lose a 2-bet series.  Then you move to 4-4 & 12-12 etc...  Just like Oscar's grind on Even Chances, only for 2 dozens.

If this is too much of a grind for you, you can skip a level and move up at a faster pace. 1-1 & 3-3 then skip 2-2 & 6-6 and go to 3-3 & 9-9, then go to 6-6 & 18-18 etc...

You must set a stop loss just in case the streak from you know where jumps on the exact machine you decided to play at the exact time you decided to play it.

When that happens, we just have to have a parachute with us or it's "Katie bar the door."

George

[Johnlegend]

I have been testing this rapid fire system with a pluscoup on the double dozens and it's been working just fine.

Actually, John started it with his 1-1; 3-3 then 2-2; 6-6.  All  you do is continue with the progression until you are at a new high water mark.  So if you lose at 1-1 & 3-3, you play 2-2 & 6-6 until you reach a new high in your bank or lose a 2 bet at this level.  Then you move to 3-3 & 9-9 and stay at this level until you recover completely or lose a 2-bet series.  Then you move to 4-4 & 12-12 etc...  Just like Oscar's grind on Even Chances, only for 2 dozens.

If this is too much of a grind for you, you can skip a level and move up at a faster pace. 1-1 & 3-3 then skip 2-2 & 6-6 and go to 3-3 & 9-9, then go to 6-6 & 18-18 etc...

You must set a stop-loss just in case the streak from you know where jumps on the exact machine you decided to play at the exact time you decided to play it.

When that happens, we just have to have a parachute with us or it's "Katie bar the door."

George

I recommend you play in 100 spin blocks. stop after five straight wins and wait for a loss. Restart for one game at level 2 stakes. Then stop and wait for another loss, until you have 5-10 units plus.

The upside to playing this way, you avoid losses nearly all the time until you get a double loss. Plus you get to study this methods win loss patterns inside a set frame.

The downside, you could be at the start of a  lengthy winning streak. But I believe in profit preservation aswell as creation. And a loss avoided is a recovery saved.

[ScoobyDoo]

In case anyone is wondering why I haven't added anything in this thread even though John credits me with the creation, is because John verbalizes everything so eloquently that it doesn't leave any room to add much of anything....which is Ok for me.

I do have one thing to add here however.

For some forum members, this method is way too slow and so will probably not play it for real money but my words of advice are these:

Everything that moves forward from a stopped position, has to do so by building up momentum, little by little until the desired speed is attained..

This being said, look at the units you win as the momentum and the ever increasing size of units you play as your speed in getting where you want to go.

When you look at it that way, the wait time to build up unit size doesn't seem so long.

No worthwhile goal is achieved in one day and winning a good sum of money each day is the goal.

I would much rather play for a short time each day to win my unit goal (Using Bigger Units) than be forced to play lot longer and riskier because my unit size is so small.

Food for thought...Fatten your mind

Scooby Doo

[Johnlegend]

In case anyone is wondering why I haven't added anything in this thread even though John credits me with the creation, is because John verbalizes everything so eloquently that it doesn't leave any room to add much of anything....which is Ok for me.

I do have one thing to add here however.

For some forum members, this method is way too slow and so will probably not play it for real money but my words of advice are these:

Everything that moves forward from a stopped position, has to do so by building up momentum, little by little until the desired speed is attained..

This being said, look at the units you win as the momentum and the ever increasing size of units you play as your speed in getting where you want to go.

When you look at it that way, the wait time to build up unit size doesn't seem so long.

No worthwhile goal is achieved in one day and winning a good sum of money each day is the goal.

I would much rather play for a short time each day to win my unit goal (Using Bigger Units) than be forced to play lot longer and riskier because my unit size is so small.

Food for thought...Fatten your mind

Scooby Doo

Well said Scooby but slow this method never is in relation to the Matrix or Zone where you could wait 50 spins to start this is an express profit maker.

[ROB22]

Hello

First test on two of a kind

+12  in 33 spins great

2nd test not so good but maybe a way to improve it
This  is my 2nd test on a live wheel  Fairway casino

11
13
13  L W  +1
31    W   +2
33  L  L   -6
13
12  L W  -4  up to  22  66
12 L  W  -2
31 W     EVEN  3 wins back down to 11 33
32 L W   +1
31    W  +2
33   L L  -6
11
11
21
23 L W   up to 22 66  -4
12 W  -2
21 W even

This is my idea to improve a losing run

Same spins

When we get 3 of the same dozen in the first line
1
1
1

We change the order of play

11
13
13 next spin put in 2nd row
  3
13
31 W +1
31 L W +2
21 W  +3
23 LW +4
13  W  +5
23  W  +6
13  W  +7
31  W  +8
11  W  +9
12
12  LW +10

three of the same dozen in first row change order of play

  3
12
21 W +11
Hope sameone can let me now want they think and also
Does it make a difference what live wheel  we use because
I was really disappointed with my 2nd try with the original rules

[chrisbis]

Nice to see some testing at a Live wheel That we are most familiar with.

Cheers ROB22  



@JohnLegend

Can I ask U why don't U play for the double, and play both number in the 2 Dozen sequence?

It would seem to work just as well as playing for the inside number (left hand).

It unique as a Dozen (it has to be to satisfy the condition set on Ur First Rule).

Is the some 'Special Case' for only targeting the Left hand Dozen, since at the end of the Day(I Know- it goes dark!)................this is another example of an Player Illuzion bet?

When laid out in a flat line of results, this 'Play Marker Bet' is something that can be Notated by double comma's:-

My first play-
3 , 1....trigger
3 , 2....trigger
2 , 3....trigger
2 , 1....trigger
2 , 3....trigger


Which could also be Noted thus:-

3,1,,T,,3,2,,T,,2,3,,T,,2,1,,T,,2,3,,T,,

so from any standing start, anything (after two dozens) u have not got a repeating Dozen results- its a trigger.
But why only target the First Unique Dozen Result, why not aim(with good MM) both unique Dozens, and suspend betting, when the repeats arrive in town?

Cheers Chris

[Twisteruk]

HEY THE TWISTERS in the neighbourhood. Never lost three my friend but can win 36 in a row. You gotta thank Scooby Doo, as well, this is his baby. Although I think he isnt 100% happy with it.

PROGRESSION 1,1-33 LEVEL 1
2,2-6,6 LEVEL 2

8,8-24,24 LEVEL 3 AFTER DBL LOSS 1 GAME.

Hey Hey !

Yes ure correct John

Thanx to Scoob too 

Scoob, john said ure not happy with this ? What would you change ?


Okkkkk testin laters 

[ScoobyDoo]

Hi Twisteruk,

Well, just call me a perfectionist. There are always things that can be fine-tuned to get better performance....

I don't like to do the fine-tuning AFTER we present it to the forum. It makes it look like we don't have all aspects thought out thoroughly in my opinion...But hey! What do I know?..hahahaha!

Scooby Doo

[ScoobyDoo]

Hi Chrisbis,

The preponderance of wins occur on the first bet. If you skip the second bet and go to the next trigger, you're giving yourself a new set of dozens to bet on each time which should give you a better opportunity to snag a win before your betting series runs out.

Scooby Doo 

[ROB22]

Could someone please tell  me want I'm doing wrong
Test live wheel

13
21    W    B 11 +1
02    L L  B 11  33  -7
33
33
21
22  L L  B  22  66  -23
21
11  W   B  88         -15
12
22  W   B 22         -13
13
13 L W   B22  66     -11
32 W     B 22          -9
33 L L    B 22  66    -25
11
32
12 W     B 22             -23
13 L W  B22          -21
11  L L  B 22 66   -37
21
32 W    B22          -35
21 W    B22         -33
32 W    B22        -31
33 L L   B22 66    -47

I may be using  the wrong live casino because everyone seems to be winning.

[ZigZag]

I did 7 sessions last night on slingshot roulette.

I stopped each session at + 5

210 spins in total

One of the sessions was a real grinder after i hit LL at the start, then another LL just as i recoverd the first

50 @ W   
5   @ LW
5   @ LL

Total + 30   

My last session i stopped at evens after an eary LL as was late

[marivo]

I think that 2. level bet is 33 66 and not 22 66.....Oh no, I see now, its 22 66, correct. Fact is I did in all my tests 33 66....my mistake

[atlantis]

This is my idea to improve a losing run

When we get 3 of the same dozen in the first line
1
1
1

We change the order of play

11
13
13 next spin put in 2nd row
 3
13
31 W +1
31 L W +2
21 W  +3
23 LW +4
13  W  +5
23  W  +6
13  W  +7
31  W  +8
11  W  +9
12
12  LW +10

three of the same dozen in first row change order of play

 3
12
21 W +11
Hope sameone can let me now want they think and also
Does it make a difference what live wheel  we use because
I was really disappointed with my 2nd try with the original rules

Hi ROB22,
I tried your idea and won +12 in 67 spins with Wiesbaden real numbers.
(highest bet = 3-3)
A.

[ROB22]

Thanks for reading my post and trying it Atlantis